Hi all
Any volunteers care to give me feedback on an iOS word game that's nearing
release? Please email me off list :)
Thanks in advance!
Gerry
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Geoff Canyon wrote:
> To me, this is very much like the following, which works:
>
> put "test" into x
> put z before char 7 of x
> put x -- puts "testz"
>
> There is no character 7 of x. The length of x is 4 (and then 5,
> obviously). The engine takes an unexpected input and interprets it i
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 8:09 PM, Peter Haworth wrote:
> I'm leery of
> anything that tries to interpret my input based on arbitrary logic and
> would much rather set either tabstops or tabwidths and have each of them
> retain the values I set them to without trying to interpret them.
>
> Also, I'
I don't understand the use of "sometimes" here, as if the
functionality were uncertain, ambiguous, or just plain random. This
functionality is determinate, and as far as I can tell has been this
way (and documented) since Rev 1.0, and presumably back to the
MetaCard days.
To me, this is very much
On 8/14/13 7:51 PM, Kay C Lan wrote:
Mark's suggested
addition seems a win win to me, it gives the option to count items
differently and I don't have to do anything ;-)
But do keep reading the forum thread, as runrevmark has pointed out some
issues with it that could cause trouble with librari
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 5:17 PM, Richard Gaskin
wrote:
> But before I file a bug report, let's see if it's worth the time: has
> anyone ever had code that produced unexpected/unwanted results from this
> inconsistent treatment of the input values of tabStops?
Yes, until I figured out what was g
Sorry Geoff I just don't follow your logic. Just because one doesn't exist
why shouldn't the others? If I understand your logic, which clearly I
don't, you are suggesting that because LC can create and count multiple
empty lines, and create and count multiple empty items, it should be able
to creat
Geoff Canyon wrote:
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 6:02 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
...
If you wrote code expecting the engine to treat incoming values
consistently, you risk having unexpected column widths.
So we have to ask ourselves: now that the engine explicitly supports
relative values via the t
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 6:02 PM, Richard Gaskin
wrote:
> Looks like we've discovered an inconsistency.
>
> Apparently the engine will treat items in the tabstops as column widths if
> one or more of them is smaller than a preceding item, but if each of the
> items is larger than the last then the
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 5:46 PM, Richard Gaskin
wrote:
> You really expected the value coming back to be different from what you
> set it to?
>
Yep -- I've known this is how tabstops work longer than I can remember, and
I use this feature all the time. The docs even mention this, although they
ar
Looks like we've discovered an inconsistency.
Apparently the engine will treat items in the tabstops as column widths
if one or more of them is smaller than a preceding item, but if each of
the items is larger than the last then the value you get back will be
the same you set it to.
If you w
you get 100, 150, 200 absolute positioning. If you had set to 150,100,200
you'd get back 150, 250, 450.. All of which explains why I use absolutes to
keep my head from exploding.
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 4:46 PM, Richard Gaskin
wrote:
> Geoff Canyon wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 9:34 AM, Ri
Geoff Canyon wrote:
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 9:34 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
The tabstops property requires absolute metrics from the left edge of the
control; that is, each item is the complete measure from that edge, e.g.:
100,150,225
I've never found this to be the case. I just opened up LC
Scott,
Read this:
https://support.apple.com/kb/HT5290
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On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 5:19 PM, Scott Rossi wrote:
> I'm wondering if there's kind of equivalent for "run as administrator" for
> LiveCode apps on OS X. I have a case where a user wants to run my
> downloaded app under a user account. I assume the "official" process is
> to get an Apple Mac de
On 15/08/2013, at 4:06 AM, Mike Kerner wrote:
> Since you were messing with this, is there a fairly easy way to get the
> column headers resized for retina to a readable height?
mApp resizes everything so it should just work. I've recently added scaling to
column widths which I didn't have be
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 9:34 AM, Richard Gaskin
wrote:
> The tabstops property requires absolute metrics from the left edge of the
> control; that is, each item is the complete measure from that edge, e.g.:
>
> 100,150,225
>
I've never found this to be the case. I just opened up LC 5.0, created
On 15/08/2013, at 8:19 AM, Scott Rossi wrote:
> I'm wondering if there's kind of equivalent for "run as administrator" for
> LiveCode apps on OS X. I have a case where a user wants to run my
> downloaded app under a user account. I assume the "official" process is
> to get an Apple Mac dev acco
Hi List:
I'm wondering if there's kind of equivalent for "run as administrator" for
LiveCode apps on OS X. I have a case where a user wants to run my
downloaded app under a user account. I assume the "official" process is
to get an Apple Mac dev account and get some kind of code signing
happenin
lol. Nope. I'm 29. Again. I just figured that anyone who ever used
tabstops before coming to HC/SC/RR/LC would be familiar with this mechanism
for setting them.
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On the third day, God put the
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First personal computer was a SouthWest Technical Products 6800 in 1978.
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On Aug 14, 2013, at 1:50 PM, Jerry Jensen wrote:
> I had my first computer class in 1964.
>
I had my first computer class in 1964.
.Jerry
On Aug 14, 2013, at 1:14 PM, dunb...@aol.com wrote:
> Hmmm.
>
>
> I was in college in the 60's.
>
>
>
> Raise?
>
>
>
> Craig
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mike Kerner
> To: How to use LiveCode
> Sent: Wed, Aug 14, 2013 2:42 pm
> Su
Hmmm.
I was in college in the 60's.
Raise?
Craig
-Original Message-
From: Mike Kerner
To: How to use LiveCode
Sent: Wed, Aug 14, 2013 2:42 pm
Subject: Re: IDE versus MSG Box - Field Tabstops
No, I just don't want to admit that I'm 30 in dwarf years.
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 2:
No, I just don't want to admit that I'm 30 in dwarf years.
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 2:24 PM, wrote:
> I see Mike is reluctant to take my wager.
>
>
> Craig
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: stephen barncard
> To: How to use LiveCode
> Sent: Wed, Aug 14, 2013 2:00 pm
> Subject: Re: IDE
Richard,
Well, it turns out it is a feature. LC is indeed mixing widths and stops. And
the dictionary says it always did: If a tabStop is less than the previous one,
it uses that previous as a baseline, essentially making the smaller one a
tabWidth, since the baseLine is now locally zero.
S
I see Mike is reluctant to take my wager.
Craig
-Original Message-
From: stephen barncard
To: How to use LiveCode
Sent: Wed, Aug 14, 2013 2:00 pm
Subject: Re: IDE versus MSG Box - Field Tabstops
"The only reason you guys think tabWidths are better is because you're too
young to hav
On Aug 12, 2013, at 8:47 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
> I have a report from one of my testers of the app's main window not being
> able to be restored when clicking on its icon in the Dock after having been
> minimized.
>
> I've been unable to reproduce this.
>
> I believe the user's system is O
Monte,
Since you were messing with this, is there a fairly easy way to get the
column headers resized for retina to a readable height?
On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 8:29 PM, Monte Goulding wrote:
>
> On 14/08/2013, at 3:34 AM, Chris Sheffield wrote:
>
> > Monte, can your mApp plugin handle a data gri
hey, stephen, isn't SeaLand for sale again?
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 1:59 PM, stephen barncard <
stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com> wrote:
> "The only reason you guys think tabWidths are better is because you're too
> young to have spent enough time on teletypes, or IBM's that had
> single-digit mo
I was a VERY early starter, and sometimes technology lives longer than
maybe it should.
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 1:43 PM, wrote:
> Hmmm.
>
>
> I will give 2-1 odds, payable in LC tokens, for each year older you are
> than I.
>
>
>
> Craig Newman
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mike Kern
"The only reason you guys think tabWidths are better is because you're too
young to have spent enough time on teletypes, or IBM's that had
single-digit model numbers."
yeah, 1965 I drank a lot of Cokes, dreamt of being a pirate DJ off the
coast of England and thought computers were boring.
On W
Richard,
I have not experienced it, nor have my customers reported it - all OS X -
various versions.
Note: I seldom minimize and I don't know how often my customers do so.
Paul Looney
On Aug 12, 2013, at 8:47 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
> I have a report from one of my testers of the app's main wi
dunbarx wrote:
It seems that when an anomalous string for tabStops is set, LC uses a hybrid of
tabStops and tabWidths.
I have the following tabStops in a table field (named f55"): "20,10,80".
It would appear that the second stop is to the left of the first stop.
Something similar to this has
Hmmm.
I will give 2-1 odds, payable in LC tokens, for each year older you are than I.
Craig Newman
-Original Message-
From: Mike Kerner
To: How to use LiveCode
Sent: Wed, Aug 14, 2013 1:35 pm
Subject: Re: IDE versus MSG Box - Field Tabstops
The only reason you guys think tabWidth
It seems that when an anomalous string for tabStops is set, LC uses a hybrid of
tabStops and tabWidths.
I have the following tabStops in a table field (named f55"): "20,10,80".
It would appear that the second stop is to the left of the first stop.
Something similar to this has crashed LC with
The only reason you guys think tabWidths are better is because you're too
young to have spent enough time on teletypes, or IBM's that had
single-digit model numbers.
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 1:24 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:
> On 8/14/13 11:49 AM, dunb...@aol.com wrote:
>
> With what you explained,
On 8/14/13 11:49 AM, dunb...@aol.com wrote:
With what you explained, I might see how, say, a negative number
might trip up the translation, but do not see why the particular
string mentioned does. Anyway, that string does not crash two
machines I tried it on, so I suspect something more local an
Richard.
I agree. I find tabwidths are much more straightforward than tabstops.
With what you explained, I might see how, say, a negative number might trip up
the translation, but do not see why the particular string mentioned does.
Anyway, that string does not crash two machines I tried it
"FWIW, LC recently introduced a new property, the tabWidths, which will
accept those values." - Richard
And I can finally drop my columnsToTabStops and TabStopsToColumns
handlers...
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 7:34 AM, Richard Gaskin
wrote:
> dunbarx wrote:
>
> Richard.
>> ..."FWIW, LC recently i
Kay-
Wednesday, August 14, 2013, 5:03:48 AM, you wrote:
> I very much like Mark Wieder's proposal. I also like how he's debunked
> speculation as to imminent failure if empty last items were actually
> counted as an item. On the other hand it's pretty easy to prove that LC's
> current bipolar tre
If not asking anyone else means not googling, etc., then I'm
stumped -- how did you figure it out?
Tim Selander
Tokyo, Japan
On 8/14/13 5:26 AM, Colin Holgate wrote:
It’s a calendar reminder, celebrating this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanabata
Now, for a mental exercise, given that I don
dunbarx wrote:
Richard.
..."FWIW, LC recently introduced a new property, the tabWidths, which will
accept those values."
Are you implying that the tabStop list that Alejandro posted is somehow not
acceptable?
I have to admit that I've had so much going on in my office that I
haven't followe
Hi Yves,
keystroke "v" using command down
will paste the text and
keystroke tab
will move the text insertion point to the next field or text area.
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Geoff Canyon wrote:
>Wouldn't this mean that:
>
> the number of items of "test" -- puts zero
>
>And by extension:
>
> the number of words of "test" -- puts zero
> the number of lines of "test" -- puts zero
.
And the number of items in empty is one.
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Kay C Lan wrote:
>Thanks for the Link, an excellent discussion.
>
>Marks Waddingham's statement:
>
>If you want to be able to represent a nullable string list of any
>number of
>> empty items from 0
>>
>
>is like saying:
>
>If you want to be able to represent a nullable array of any number of
>emp
Richard.
..."FWIW, LC recently introduced a new property, the tabWidths, which will
accept those values."
Are you implying that the tabStop list that Alejandro posted is somehow not
acceptable?
I like the "tabwidths", which is simpler to get my head around than the
"tabStops", which requ
Hi Yves,
This is the short version of the AppleScript I use:
set mailText to ""
set thisSubject to "Test E-Mail"
set thisEmail to "t...@test.xyz"
using terms from application "Mail"
tell application "Mail"
set theAccount to "Name of Your Mail Account"
s
Alejandro wrote:
Looks like the IDE expects that Tab Stops
are written like this:
250,330,340,420,500,580,590,600,610,660
not like this:
250,80,10,80,80,80,10,10,10,50
If this is the correct way to write Tab stops
in the IDE, then I expect an error message
but not that the application hangs and
Wouldn't this mean that:
the number of items of "test" -- puts zero
And by extension:
the number of words of "test" -- puts zero
the number of lines of "test" -- puts zero
Sent from my iPad
On Aug 14, 2013, at 7:03 AM, Kay C Lan wrote:
> If you put empty into an Array, it is no l
Alejandro.
I just did (250,80,10,80,80,80,10,10,10,50) on another machine. No problems.
Are you saying that only increasing values of tabStops are stable in your
setup? I cannot see any other pattern in what you said worked, as opposed to
what seems to crash LC.
Craig
-Original Mes
Thanks for the Link, an excellent discussion.
Marks Waddingham's statement:
If you want to be able to represent a nullable string list of any number of
> empty items from 0
>
is like saying:
If you want to be able to represent a nullable array of any number of empty
keys from 0 ???
If you put
Hi
I did another test
set the clipboardData["HTML"] to tVar
and then, I paste myself the text in a mail.app message
and I get a good formatted text.
Is it possible to do the same via applescript (to avoid having to do it
manually)
Le 14 août 2013 à 10:30, Yves COPPE a écrit :
> Hi,
>
> than
Hi,
thanks for the good idea; the text appears without html flags
but … as plain text, not formatted, without returns, bold text, …
no any other idea ?
Le 14 août 2013 à 10:15, Mark Schonewille a
écrit :
> Hi Yves,
>
> I had this problem too. I noticed that Mail automatically converts any
Hi Yves,
I had this problem too. I noticed that Mail automatically converts any
diacritics to HTML to make sure that they are read correctly on PC's.
Just use standard MacRoman and all will be fine.
However, I would be very interested in knowing whether Zryip's solution
works for you.
--
B
Hi Yves,
According to the Mail applescript's dictionary, the content property only
accepts RTF content.
2 ways for doing what you want:
1. RTF
put the rtfText of fld "test" to tVar
tell application "Mail"
set newMessage to (make new outgoing message at end of outgoing
messages with prop
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