Re: Learning about server

2014-06-10 Thread John Craig
Any areas in particular that interest you? I was speaking to someone recently about writing a book on LC server - not sure how much interest there would be, but here is the current list of possible topics; Basic .lc server scripts Sessions Basic logging in and out with sessions SQL primer Serv

Re: Learning about server

2014-06-10 Thread Matthias Rebbe | M-R-D
I, for one, would buy it. Especially Push notifications would be more than interesting. Regards, Matthias Am 10.06.2014 um 11:56 schrieb John Craig : > Any areas in particular that interest you? I was speaking to someone > recently about writing a book on LC server - not sure how much interes

Re: Learning about server

2014-06-10 Thread Dave Kilroy
Well we have books on general LC from Mark, on Mobile from Colin, and on gaming-making from Scott - but we have a gaping hole for LC Server just waiting for someone to fill! With at least two customers :) Actually it just occurs to me that we have another gaping lacuna in LC books, concerning comm

Re: Learning about server

2014-06-10 Thread Marc Van Cauwenberghe
Hi John,, I would pre-order! Best regards, Marc Op 10-jun.-2014, om 11:56 heeft John Craig het volgende geschreven: > Any areas in particular that interest you? I was speaking to someone > recently about writing a book on LC server - not sure how much interest there > would be, but here is

Re: Learning about server

2014-06-10 Thread Simon Smith
I have been working on a general guide on LC server - its been a great way to figure out how everything works. There is a still a ton of stuff I would like to still add ... but if its helps people in the interim I am happy to share. I'll take a look when I am at home this evening and see if its a s

Re: Learning about server

2014-06-10 Thread rjd318
Ditto! In for one on a server book =) Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 10, 2014, at 8:01 AM, Marc Van Cauwenberghe > wrote: > > Hi John,, > I would pre-order! > > Best regards, > Marc > >> Op 10-jun.-2014, om 11:56 heeft John Craig het volgende >> geschreven: >> >> Any areas in particular th

Re: Learning about server

2014-06-10 Thread Dar Scott
My immediate need would not be a way to deliver web content, but just as a way to make a console application on Windows. But, I can see the former in my future. Dar On Jun 10, 2014, at 3:56 AM, John Craig wrote: > Any areas in particular that interest you? I was speaking to someone > rece

Re: Learning about server

2014-06-10 Thread Dar Scott
Thanks for the kind encouragement. I am pondering this. Dar On Jun 10, 2014, at 6:43 AM, Dave Kilroy wrote: > Well we have books on general LC from Mark, on Mobile from Colin, and on > gaming-making from Scott - but we have a gaping hole for LC Server just > waiting for someone to fill! With

Help with hosed LC UI on Ubuntu

2014-06-10 Thread Richard Gaskin
I've been using LC on Ubuntu for years, and while there are a few details where it's not quite HIG-savvy it's generally been pretty good. But I recently did a clean install of Ubuntu 14.04, and now LC 6.6.2 looks horrible. The Problem --- This screen shot shows both LC and GEdit side

Re: Learning about server

2014-06-10 Thread Earthednet-wp
Dar, I'd definitely buy your book. Some of the things I would be interested in is how to create a reasonable looking ui, which will require html5, JavaScript, and css3. I've dabbled in all 3 of these but since I use them rarely, it's a pain to use them. It would be nice to have a prescription f

Re: Learning about server

2014-06-10 Thread Dave Kilroy
Hi Simon I remember you posted something about a server book a while ago - if it's still on the cards I'll buy your book AND John's! If you're not at that stage yet then I'm sure there would be a lot of interest in anything you might want to share - actually, even helping produce up-to-date doc

Re: Learning about server

2014-06-10 Thread Richard Gaskin
Dar wrote: > My immediate need would not be a way to deliver web content, but just > as a way to make a console application on Windows. But, I can see > the former in my future. There are so many useful and interesting things to do with LiveCode Server, and even standalones on servers, it's alm

Re: Help with hosed LC UI on Ubuntu

2014-06-10 Thread Mark Talluto
On Jun 10, 2014, at 7:49 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > 1. Anyone here seen this with LC before? > > 2. Anyone here have suggestions on how to fix it? This is a view of 6.6.2 RC6 on my Mint installation via VMware Fusion. http://www.canelasoftware.com/pub/rev/mint%20linux.png I get a little of

Re: Learning about server

2014-06-10 Thread dunbarx
I would pre- order two copies. Craig Newman -Original Message- From: Marc Van Cauwenberghe To: How to use LiveCode Sent: Tue, Jun 10, 2014 9:01 am Subject: Re: Learning about server Hi John,, I would pre-order! Best regards, Marc Op 10-jun.-2014, om 11:56 heeft John Craig het vo

Re: Help with hosed LC UI on Ubuntu

2014-06-10 Thread Richard Gaskin
Mark Talluto wrote: > This is a view of 6.6.2 RC6 on my Mint installation via VMware > Fusion. > http://www.canelasoftware.com/pub/rev/mint%20linux.png Looks like you're getting theme adoption there, so that much is good. And thankfully Hanson at RunRev confirmed my issue this morning, so at l

aligning text in columns

2014-06-10 Thread Chris Sheffield
Do we have the ability yet to set the text alignment for individual columns in a table field? I have a very simple field with just two columns. I want the alignment of the first one to be left, and the second one to be right. A data grid is overkill, otherwise I’d go with that. I couldn’t remem

Re: aligning text in columns

2014-06-10 Thread Richard Gaskin
Chris Sheffield wrote: > Do we have the ability yet to set the text alignment for individual > columns in a table field? My understanding is that the work has been done, and it will be in a new build of 7.0dp soon. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for t

Best approach to introduce students in programing to LC ?

2014-06-10 Thread jbv
Hi list, Starting next september I might have the opportunity to give a few hours of teaching at the local technology institute for students in their 1st and 2nd year of learning techniques of internet, multimedia and programming. Of course the first idea that crossed my mind was to introduce them

Re: Learning about server

2014-06-10 Thread Dave Kilroy
Richard your LiveCode Server Center sounds supercalifragilisticexpialidocious! - "Some are born coders, some achieve coding, and some have coding thrust upon them." - William Shakespeare & Hugh Senior -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Learning

Re: Learning about server

2014-06-10 Thread John Craig
I wasn't thinking about writing "the big book of everything you can conceivably do with LiveCode Server" :D More like "The Hitchhiker's Guide To LiveCode Server"... with some suitably large, friendly message on the cover ... I still buy books - I'd rather leaf through a hard copy after staring

Re: Best approach to introduce students in programing to LC ?

2014-06-10 Thread Richard Gaskin
jbv wrote: > Starting next september I might have the opportunity to give > a few hours of teaching at the local technology institute > for students in their 1st and 2nd year of learning techniques > of internet, multimedia and programming. > Of course the first idea that crossed my mind was to i

Re: aligning text in columns

2014-06-10 Thread Chris Sheffield
Thanks, Richard. Good to know. On Jun 10, 2014, at 11:55 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > Chris Sheffield wrote: > > Do we have the ability yet to set the text alignment for individual > > columns in a table field? > > My understanding is that the work has been done, and it will be in a new > build

Re: Learning about server

2014-06-10 Thread Simon Smith
Hi Richard I would be happy to contribute to LCJ and it will be interesting to see what you have setup. Writing a book would be a mammoth task - and I for one, would not be certain just how large a target market there would be, so they would truly be a labour of love :) But for now - this is som

Re: Learning about server

2014-06-10 Thread John Craig
Maybe we should all have a hangout some time and chew over a few ideas? On 10/06/2014 17:28, dunb...@aol.com wrote: I would pre- order two copies. Craig Newman -Original Message- From: Marc Van Cauwenberghe To: How to use LiveCode Sent: Tue, Jun 10, 2014 9:01 am Subject: Re: Lear

Re: Learning about server

2014-06-10 Thread Simon Smith
I'm game :) On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 9:03 PM, John Craig wrote: > Maybe we should all have a hangout some time and chew over a few ideas? > > > > On 10/06/2014 17:28, dunb...@aol.com wrote: > >> I would pre- order two copies. >> >> >> Craig Newman >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From:

Re: Learning about server

2014-06-10 Thread Richard Gaskin
Simon Smith wrote: Writing a book would be a mammoth task - and I for one, would not be certain just how large a target market there would be, so they would truly be a labour of love :) It would indeed. I've known enough people in the book business that I stay with software. :) But for no

Re: Running an LC app from the command line

2014-06-10 Thread Ben Rubinstein
On 05/06/2014 17:46, Mark Talluto wrote: On Jun 5, 2014, at 9:26 AM, Peter Haworth wrote: Thanks everyone. SOunds like hiding and positioning off screen is the way to go, particularly since I need this to work on Windows as well as Mac and I think -ui is Mac only (and possibly Linux?) You c

Re: Learning about server

2014-06-10 Thread Simon Smith
Thanks, much appreciated. Only put it live a few minutes ago, there is no time like the present and if I don't do it now - then I probably never will. It is also a great motivation to work on it and try to complete everything that is missing. Simon On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 9:25 PM, Richard Gaski

[OT] Remember Be?

2014-06-10 Thread Scott Rossi
There's a woman speaking at a local CHI event here tonight whose UX career started at Be, Inc. If you don't remember Be, it was an alternative operating system and hardware platform started in the early 90s, by ex Apple exec Jean-Louis Gassée. Be eventually became one of the options considered to

Re: Learning about server

2014-06-10 Thread Scott Rossi
Bookmarked :-) Thanks for this. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX/UI Design On 6/10/14 12:49 PM, "Simon Smith" wrote: >Thanks, much appreciated. > >Only put it live a few minutes ago, there is no time like the present and >if I don't do it now - then I probably never

Re: Learning about server

2014-06-10 Thread William Prothero
Simon: Re the server installation, one thing that worries me is the server load. As a cgi, the livecode app needs to be loaded for every call, AFAIK, and would demand a lot from the server. It seemed that the installation where it is integrated into the Apache configuration would be best, but I

Re: Learning about server

2014-06-10 Thread Simon Smith
Hi William It will live quiet happily with php and mysql and should not cause any problems. I remember reading (think it was a forum post Richard commented on) where there was a question re: cgi vs fast cgi (with fast cgi there is only a single process so it speeds up execution) He mentioned the

Re: Best approach to introduce students in programing to LC ?

2014-06-10 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hi JBV, I could imagine that first-year students have no or almost no experience with programming. They might need to get acquainted with concepts such as abstract thinking, logic, recursion and perhaps GUI design. Additionally, they will need to learn elementary syntax, and how to use variab

RE: Learning about server

2014-06-10 Thread Nakia Brewer
This is good! Nakia Brewer | Technology & Solutions Manager | Equipment Management Solutions t: (02) 49645051 | m: 0458 713 547 | i: www.westrac.com.au   ACN 009 342 572 -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Scott Rossi Sent

[ANN] More info about the LC meeting in Switzerland

2014-06-10 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hi everyone, On Saturday, 28th June 2014, Björnke von Gierke and Mark Schonewille will organise a LiveCode meeting. On this day, we'll welcome you at the Zentrum Karl der Grosse (Charles the Great Centre) in Zurich, Switzerland. We can now provide you with a little more info about the meeting

Re: Learning about server

2014-06-10 Thread Kay C Lan
On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 3:02 AM, Simon Smith wrote: but if it helps one person, then I would be happy. Well it helped me, so please be happy. Now to make you sad. I'm surprised that security didn't make a mention in John's lists of topics, nor is it an obvious link on your page. I know there ar

Re: Learning about server

2014-06-10 Thread Simon Smith
Thanks Kay :) I would love to look at the security side of things sometime - it seems to be something a lot of developers take less seriously now days. One of the things I like about LiveCode is how easy it makes it to work with encryption. LiveCode has added support for Open SSL & encryption sup

Re: Best approach to introduce students in programing to LC ?

2014-06-10 Thread jbv
Mark, Thanks for the offer, I will be glad to review your new book. Although I think you might be somewhat wrong about those students' needs. These people are 18 to 20 years old and have already been exposed to the basic concepts of coding in highschool or are self-educated on these matters. Furthe

Re: [OT] Remember Be?

2014-06-10 Thread jbv
Yep, I do remember Be. AFAIR it could be installed on Macintosh clones made by other manufactors back then... They had a very specific icons design and there was a kind of freeware that could be installed on Mac OS to make the GUI look like Be... Best, jbv ___