Re: Reverse a list

2015-02-10 Thread Richard Gaskin
Ali Lloyd wrote: 6.7.1 revers(ta) took 427 ms qrevers(ta) took 6 ms krevers(ta) took 412 ms 7.0.2 + bugfix revers(ta) took 142 ms qrevers(ta) took 32 ms krevers(ta) took 258 ms Very exciting progress, Ali. Which v7 build is that? Is it one we have or one coming up? -- Richard

Re: Reverse a list

2015-02-10 Thread Mike Bonner
Mike K, are you wrapping the inserts in a begin/commit block? It makes a HUGE difference in speed. (otherwise, each is a separate transaction with all the overhead. If wrapped, its a single transaction, and so much faster. On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 7:36 AM, Geoff Canyon gcan...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: Reverse a list

2015-02-10 Thread Ali Lloyd
Which v7 build is that? Is it one we have or one coming up? I've just submitted the pull request so once it's reviewed it will be merged and appear in the next build, so hopefully 7.0.2 RC 3. Does LC 7 now do character references in constant (albeit a bit slower) time? Or linear? Or... In

Re: Reverse a list

2015-02-10 Thread Mike Bonner
Thanks Ali! On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 8:10 AM, Mike Bonner bonnm...@gmail.com wrote: Mike K, are you wrapping the inserts in a begin/commit block? It makes a HUGE difference in speed. (otherwise, each is a separate transaction with all the overhead. If wrapped, its a single transaction, and

Re: Reverse a list

2015-02-10 Thread Geoff Canyon
Yay, that's great news. Does LC 7 now do character references in constant (albeit a bit slower) time? Or linear? Or... On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 4:50 AM, Ali Lloyd a...@runrev.com wrote: Apologies - hit send too early. 6.7.1 There are 2931 lines in tstart There are now 14655 lines in

Re: Configure.it

2015-02-10 Thread Pierre Sahores
In french, « Mobinaute » means mobile phone user ... Le 11 févr. 2015 à 00:09, Bob Sneidar bobsnei...@iotecdigital.com a écrit : What is a mobinaut? Bob S On Feb 10, 2015, at 14:34 , Pierre Sahores s...@sahores-conseil.commailto:s...@sahores-conseil.com wrote: And at $US 490 /

Re: The Future of Animation in LiveCode

2015-02-10 Thread Brahmanathaswami
Colin Holgate wrote: Flash Pro can publish to HTML5 Canvas and HTML5 WebGL (2D). It’s an extremely good option when it comes to creating animation rich interactive applications for iOS Safari. How might such be incorporated in an LC app? only via the browser object... right? @ Bob

Script Editor Window All Goofed Up

2015-02-10 Thread Ray
I'm not sure how or even if I did this but suddenly I can't see the bottom of the script editor window. I can use the simple Find feature 'in the blind' but I can't get to the 'more options' part of Find and often I can't even see what was found. When I scroll, the scroll bars go off the

Re: The Future of Animation in LiveCode

2015-02-10 Thread Colin Holgate
Flash Pro can publish to HTML5 Canvas and HTML5 WebGL (2D). It’s an extremely good option when it comes to creating animation rich interactive applications for iOS Safari. On Feb 10, 2015, at 9:31 PM, William Prothero proth...@earthednet.org wrote: As far as I know, Apple still forbids

Re: The Future of Animation in LiveCode

2015-02-10 Thread Colin Holgate
I just tried a fairly demanding HTML5 Canvas game I programmed in Flash Pro, inside a revBrowser object. It worked fairly well. I didn’t yet try that on an iPad. BTW Unity 5 also exports to HTML5 WebGL (3D), so even if it takes a while for LiveCode to be a killer HTML5 development tool, there

Re: A computer science question

2015-02-10 Thread Peter Haworth
Thanks Ken, trying to understand it! I guess the vertices would be tables and the edges would be pairs of tables with a foreign key relationship. The lightbulb for me is that the table objects don't need to be in rows and columns, they are positioned in the best place for the lines that join

Re: The Future of Animation in LiveCode

2015-02-10 Thread William Prothero
Tom: As far as I know, Apple still forbids browser plugins on iOS. So, Flash movies are out, but when HTML5 gets here, it should help a lot. My problem with Flash and revBrowserCEF was on the Mac, desktop. After loading up a Flash video from YouTube, the browser window won’t close and it seems

Re: [OT] Configure.it

2015-02-10 Thread Pierre Sahores
Hope you are right, Jim ! Le 11 févr. 2015 à 00:15, Jim Lambert j...@netrin.com a écrit : Pierre wrote: And at $US 490 / month peer 10 mobinaut's users of a single app … I sure hope they mean users of the authoring tool, not end users! I wonder if that business model of providing a

Postgres SSL connection?

2015-02-10 Thread Dr. Hawkins
It appears that, for reasons I cannot begin to imagine, SSL is only supported for mySQL database connections, and not postgres. Is this correct? Does anyone know if there are plans to implement SSL for postgres? At the moment, it seems that my only options are to either accept the limitations

Re: Reverse a list

2015-02-10 Thread Mike Bonner
You can find an example that uses begin transaction, and commit with a repeat loop here: http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=7t=14145hilit=+transaction On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 9:20 AM, Mike Kerner mikeker...@roadrunner.com wrote: Mike B, no, I wasn't, proving once again that I don't know

Re: Reverse a list

2015-02-10 Thread Mike Kerner
Mike B, no, I wasn't, proving once again that I don't know everything. Could you come over here, I need to do a mind meld. I'll mess with that in a minute. I was also going to see if mySQL was any different, but I haven't done it, yet. On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 10:28 AM, Ali Lloyd

Record video with a webcam in Windows

2015-02-10 Thread paolo mazza
Hi all, is it possible to record video with a webcam through LC under Windows 8.1? According LC documentation VideoGrabber should work in Platforms: Desktop and Web and Supported Operating Systems are MAc and Windows . This question was asked some months ago but nobody answered. Any idea? All the

Re: Reverse a list

2015-02-10 Thread Ali Lloyd
Apologies - hit send too early. 6.7.1 There are 2931 lines in tstart There are now 14655 lines in tstart revers(ta) took 427 ms qrevers(ta) took 6 ms Output OK krevers(ta) took 412 ms Output OK 7.0.2 + bugfix There are 2931 lines in tstart There are now 14655 lines in tstart

Re: Photo Zoomer

2015-02-10 Thread Dave Kilroy
Very nicely done Scott - I particularly liked the inspired 'jiggling' to preserve image quality :) - Some are born coders, some achieve coding, and some have coding thrust upon them. - William Shakespeare Hugh Senior -- View this message in context:

Re: Reverse a list

2015-02-10 Thread Ali Lloyd
It's not quite as fast as LC6, but I'm seeing a vast improvement here: On 10 February 2015 at 04:10, Kay C Lan lan.kc.macm...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 11:58 AM, Geoff Canyon gcan...@gmail.com wrote: It seems that what we've lost with unicode/7 is the speed of character

A computer science question

2015-02-10 Thread Peter Haworth
I've managed to get by for many years without the benefit of any formal computer science training but I think I've finally run into a situation which is probably solvable by a computer science algorithm. I want to implement a database diagram feature in my SQLiteAdmin program with a graphic to

Re: [TIC: Tongue in Cheek] Re: IDE oddities (was Re: Error Messages Are Evil)

2015-02-10 Thread Richard Gaskin
Mark Wieder wrote: Richard- Thursday, May 15, 2014, 2:34:38 PM, you wrote: On another note, as I promised you last week I did ask Ben if RunRev planned on open-sourcing the On-Rev real-time debugger. He's not sure and will check with Kevin, but he did confirm my hunch that it requires

Re: A computer science question

2015-02-10 Thread kee nethery
This is exactly the problem faced by circuit board layout programs, and I’ve never seen an algorithm for it. You might want to look to see if there are any open source circuit board layout programs available out there and see how they do tracing layouts. Kee Nethery On Feb 10, 2015, at

Re: A computer science question

2015-02-10 Thread ken
I think you’re looking for a clever application of a “Force-Directed Graph” drawing algorithm https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Force-directed_graph_drawing There are whole books to this field, but there’s a sample web page with an algorithm done in javascript here: http://getspringy.com -Ken

Re: The Future of Animation in LiveCode

2015-02-10 Thread tbodine
Lack of SVG import has hampered my animation efforts, though IIRC at the Q1 developers webinar Ben said this was expected in LC8. Bill, I was interested to see your comment in a different thread that you were displaying swfs in the new browser object. (So far I can't get that to work on a Mac

Re: A computer science question

2015-02-10 Thread stephen barncard
On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 11:01 AM, k...@kencorey.com wrote: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Force-directed_graph_drawing what amazed me was not the concept as much as the fact that I understood most of what was explained. lol *--* *Stephen Barncard - San Francisco Ca. USA - Deeds Not Words*

Re: Script Editor Window All Goofed Up

2015-02-10 Thread Mike Bonner
Can you post a screenshot? Worst case, you can probably remove your preferences file and it'll force the editor window back to default, but i'm digging through the code/objects in the thing, maybe I can find a way to fix it without going that far. On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 7:19 PM, Ray

Re: The Future of Animation in LiveCode

2015-02-10 Thread Bob Sneidar
I think LC would have to become a much more popular development environment first. Animation projects are typically pretty advanced, and to make that kind of investment in time and development effort, well how to say this… you will want assurances that the dev environment will be viable 5 even

Re: Postgres SSL connection?

2015-02-10 Thread Bob Sneidar
Isn’t Postgres a file based system? Why would you need SSL for a file based connection? Bob S On Feb 10, 2015, at 08:35 , Dr. Hawkins doch...@gmail.commailto:doch...@gmail.com wrote: It appears that, for reasons I cannot begin to imagine, SSL is only supported for mySQL database connections,

Re: [OT] Configure.it

2015-02-10 Thread Jim Lambert
Pierre wrote: And at $US 490 / month peer 10 mobinaut's users of a single app … I sure hope they mean users of the authoring tool, not end users! I wonder if that business model of providing a platform would work for RunRev? Jim Lambert ___

Re: The Future of Animation in LiveCode

2015-02-10 Thread Mike Bonner
Hopefully not too far in the future, since box2d was part of the met stretch goals. I can't wait! Ok, I guess I can due to lack of choice, but i'm truly looking forward to box2d being part of LC. On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 2:57 PM, Bob Sneidar bobsnei...@iotecdigital.com wrote: I think LC would

Re: A computer science question

2015-02-10 Thread Bob Sneidar
I got it only because I have attempted to draw networking diagrams for fairly complex networks. Try diagraming which Vlans are communicating on which uplinks. I ended up drawing colored lines between the switches, each color representing a different Vlan. It worked, but it was all by hand. No

Re: Configure.it

2015-02-10 Thread Pierre Sahores
And at $US 490 / month peer 10 mobinaut's users of a single app ... Le 10 févr. 2015 à 23:17, Bob Sneidar bobsnei...@iotecdigital.com a écrit : Looks like a widget constructor set approach. No coding eh? I suppose that means no granular control over how the objects work. Bob S On Feb

Re: Configure.it

2015-02-10 Thread Bob Sneidar
Looks like a widget constructor set approach. No coding eh? I suppose that means no granular control over how the objects work. Bob S On Feb 9, 2015, at 17:49 , Jim Lambert j...@netrin.com wrote: Has anyone used this mobile app dev platform? http://www.configure.it

Re: Configure.it

2015-02-10 Thread Bob Sneidar
What is a mobinaut? Bob S On Feb 10, 2015, at 14:34 , Pierre Sahores s...@sahores-conseil.commailto:s...@sahores-conseil.com wrote: And at $US 490 / month peer 10 mobinaut's users of a single app ... Le 10 févr. 2015 à 23:17, Bob Sneidar

Re: Postgres SSL connection?

2015-02-10 Thread Richard Gaskin
Andrew Kluthe wrote: Also, yes, it's just not supported. I wouldn't count on getting it supported anytime real soon. We might have a chance at DIY support once the widget architecture ships, if it still intends to be able to wrap other 3rd party libs like externals try to do for us now. Famous

Re: Postgres SSL connection?

2015-02-10 Thread Bob Sneidar
IC, no I mean a *local* file, like sqLite. But I take you to mean that Postgres is socket based. Bob S On Feb 10, 2015, at 15:37 , Andrew Kluthe and...@ctech.memailto:and...@ctech.me wrote: A file-based database (most of them are unless you are talking about memory-only stores like memcache,

Re: [not quite OT] Serving a standalone

2015-02-10 Thread Kay C Lan
On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 2:30 PM, William Prothero proth...@earthednet.org wrote: So in between playing and practicing jazz keyboard, riding my bike, and enjoying my wife’s company, I work on these coding projects, which give me great satisfaction. Well you know what they say about 'idle

Re: Reverse a list

2015-02-10 Thread Mike Kerner
Well, that answers that question: Just trying to insert the data into the database takes 64 seconds for 10,000 lines. On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 5:50 AM, Ali Lloyd a...@runrev.com wrote: Apologies - hit send too early. 6.7.1 There are 2931 lines in tstart There are now 14655 lines in

Re: Postgres SSL connection?

2015-02-10 Thread Andrew Kluthe
A file-based database (most of them are unless you are talking about memory-only stores like memcache, redis, etc. which also still use networking layers) can still uses a network layer to provide access and security for a client. Aside from embedded ones, this is how they work. Doc Hawk, Is

Re: Postgres SSL connection?

2015-02-10 Thread Andrew Kluthe
Also, yes, it's just not supported. I wouldn't count on getting it supported anytime real soon. We might have a chance at DIY support once the widget architecture ships, if it still intends to be able to wrap other 3rd party libs like externals try to do for us now. Andrew On Tue, Feb 10, 2015

Re: Postgres SSL connection?

2015-02-10 Thread Andrew Kluthe
And they even have some nice documentation on the protocol, implementing it all with livecode might prove to be a bit non-trivial. There are some nice libs for talking to it that might be a be a bit easier than talking it to it in pure livecode. I'm just in the camp of holding off on making new