RE: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card

2015-08-16 Thread Peter TB Brett
On 2015-08-17 06:43, John Dixon wrote: Fully agreed. Which is why I hope the LC Team continue to focus on their Commercial Customers and provide them with features that keep them coming back. I think I've made it obvious I feel the LC Team should be cut some slack and Commercial Customers deserv

Re: "lcdoc" documentation [was: Re: Bug getting group name, plse check]

2015-08-16 Thread Monte Goulding
> The spec is here: > > https://github.com/runrev/livecode-ide/blob/develop/Documentation/guides/Extending%20LiveCode.md#documentation-markup > > We need to make it easier to find -- I'll see what I can do to make that > happen. Oh, thanks I was looking in https://github.com/runrev/livecode/tr

"lcdoc" documentation [was: Re: Bug getting group name, plse check]

2015-08-16 Thread Peter TB Brett
On 2015-08-17 04:04, Monte Goulding wrote: On 17 Aug 2015, at 12:46 pm, Kay C Lan wrote: I appreciate this is a bit late to the game, and this Doc Team may already be heading in a certain direction, but I'm wondering if there's been an thought of adopting some kind of 'Industry Standard' docse

Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card

2015-08-16 Thread Peter TB Brett
On 2015-08-17 04:30, Roger Eller wrote: I am surprised that anyone would expect a lot of coding help to rise out of the LC community. Sure there are a few who have experience in the lower level languages, but my sole reason in choosing LC was for the English-like syntax. I don't know, nor do

RE: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card

2015-08-16 Thread John Dixon
> Fully agreed. Which is why I hope the LC Team continue to focus on > their Commercial Customers and provide them with features that keep > them coming back. > > I think I've made it obvious I feel the LC Team should be cut some > slack and Commercial Customers deserve a feature set beyond just

Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card

2015-08-16 Thread J. Landman Gay
Yes, I think most of us old timers are like that. I think the idea was that new users coming from other languages would get involved though. On August 16, 2015 10:30:25 PM CDT, Roger Eller wrote: >I am surprised that anyone would expect a lot of coding help to rise >out of >the LC community.

Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card

2015-08-16 Thread Kay C Lan
On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 11:30 AM, Roger Eller wrote: > I am surprised that anyone would expect a lot of coding help to rise out of > the LC community. Sure there are a few who have experience in the lower > level languages, but my sole reason in choosing LC was for the English-like > syntax. I d

Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card

2015-08-16 Thread Kay C Lan
On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 2:46 PM, Terence Heaford wrote: > > Can you give us your opinion as to why LC was made Open Source? > The OP was a Score Card on the KickStarter Objectives not a list of opinions. Now I admit that English is NOT my strong suit as I barely passed - 49.5% was rounded up to 50

Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card

2015-08-16 Thread Roger Eller
I am surprised that anyone would expect a lot of coding help to rise out of the LC community. Sure there are a few who have experience in the lower level languages, but my sole reason in choosing LC was for the English-like syntax. I don't know, nor do I want to learn C or Objective C or anything

Re: Bug getting group name, plse check

2015-08-16 Thread Kay C Lan
On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 11:04 AM, Monte Goulding wrote: > > It’s a nice easy format that would be simple for LC community members to > contribute changes. Indeed you could easily do it all on line via GitHub’s > document editor. Perhaps that was one of the design goals but as long as we > don’t

Re: Bug getting group name, plse check

2015-08-16 Thread Monte Goulding
> On 17 Aug 2015, at 12:46 pm, Kay C Lan wrote: > > I appreciate this is a bit late to the game, and this Doc Team may > already be heading in a certain direction, but I'm wondering if > there's been an thought of adopting some kind of 'Industry Standard' > docset format? I don’t know the proce

Re: Archaeology

2015-08-16 Thread Kay C Lan
On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 1:37 AM, Richmond wrote: > 3. How come after 15 years with LiveCode I have NEVER heard of > 'try/catch/throw' ? is this because they are pointless, > or am I missing something extremely important? > Because you're human and you don't sit down late at night and read a coupl

Re: Bug getting group name, plse check

2015-08-16 Thread Kay C Lan
On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 12:04 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > > > We definitely need tagging in the Dictionary, something I'll be pushing for > as we finally get the ball rolling with the Community Documentation Team soon. > > With searchable tags anyone can add terms that will help others find relev

Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card

2015-08-16 Thread J. Landman Gay
You're right. It was also it increase the user base, which it did considerably, so that LC would become better known and accepted generally. As you say, the move to open source was also meant to allow others to contribute to the engine so that fixes and new features would be incorporated more q

Re: Archaeology

2015-08-16 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Sunday, August 16, 2015, Mark Waddingham wrote: > > > > 2. 12 classes of objects . . . well EPS seems to have gone the way of > all flesh . . > > EPS always relied on a display postscript system which was only ever > available on some higher end Unix systems way back. But it sure would nice

Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card

2015-08-16 Thread Roger Eller
In my opinion, it was to give it a chance to grow, by incorporating other open tech, and also to just KEEP UP with the ever changing tech world without consuming the inadequate resources of the mother ship. On Aug 16, 2015 2:46 AM, "Terence Heaford" wrote: > > > On 16 Aug 2015, at 07:42, Kay C La

Re: Archaeology

2015-08-16 Thread Richmond
On 16/08/15 20:50, Mark Waddingham wrote: Thank you very much; useful answers. Richmond. 1. 'Transcript' . . . not anymore, BUT does the language-qua-language have a name that is distinct from the IDE? Well LiveCode is the umbrella... LiveCode IDE and LiveCode Script being what we use when i

Re: Archaeology

2015-08-16 Thread Mark Waddingham
> 1. 'Transcript' . . . not anymore, BUT does the language-qua-language have a > name that is distinct from the IDE? Well LiveCode is the umbrella... LiveCode IDE and LiveCode Script being what we use when it's not clear from context. > 2. 12 classes of objects . . . well EPS seems to have go

Re: mySQL: PHP or direct access?

2015-08-16 Thread Peter Haworth
Thanks Peter, I have updated the bug report to ask the question as you suggested. With respect, unless revdb is an lc script, it's highly unlikely I would have the skills to change it. On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 1:29 PM Peter TB Brett wrote: > On 2015-08-15 18:30, Peter Haworth wrote: > > Excellen

Archaeology

2015-08-16 Thread Richmond
So; just back from a computer-Free weekend in the villa; so read the Revolution 1.1.1. guidebook and coming up with several questions: 1. 'Transcript' . . . not anymore, BUT does the language-qua-language have a name that is distinct from the IDE? 2. 12 classes of objects . . . well EPS seem

Re: Bug getting group name, plse check

2015-08-16 Thread Peter Haworth
Pending updates to the dictionary, I have a plugin available that lets you add your own notes to dictionary entries and also tag them with keywords of your choice. Unfortunately, the details are local to your computer and not available to other users. It can be downloaded at http://www.lcsql.com/

Re: Bug getting group name, plse check

2015-08-16 Thread Richard Gaskin
William Prothero wrote: > Richard: > This is an example of how difficult it can be to find docs on an > operation that isn’t commonly used and that doesn’t have “obvious” > syntax. ... > Perhaps if there was a dictionary based, not on livecode commands, > but on operations that the user wants to p

Re: Button does not receive mouseUP after disabling then enabling button

2015-08-16 Thread Martin Koob
Peter TB Brett wrote > You can actually also do: > > send "setState off" to me in 0 seconds > > The engine will finish mouseUp, process messages, and then immediately > run "setState off". Hi Peter Thanks. I have changed to 0 seconds. How messages are processed sent, held and interfe

Re: Downloaded stacks on iOS

2015-08-16 Thread Mark Waddingham
Monte's reading of the clause is the same as mine (given the trouble that section of the agreement has given us over the years I keep a close eye on it). Basically Apple do not want apps to be able to download executable code which could do anything more than their analysis of the app at submiss

Re: iCalendar [.ics file] Open Source Lib for LiveCode

2015-08-16 Thread Todd Fabacher
Thanks Alex. I am taking off the week to finish the Calendar App and do the slides for the Create It with LiveCode course. I will include this functionality and send it back to the community to use. Much appreciated, Todd >It's at tweedly.org/downloads/icsLib_1_0.zip (contains the library, a

Re: Button does not receive mouseUP after disabling then enabling button

2015-08-16 Thread Peter TB Brett
On 2015-08-15 22:53, Martin Koob wrote: Hi I found another way to resolve it that works in the sample stack and in my application. Reading about the wait command in the dictionary I saw you can also use send in time to give LiveCode a chance to process messages. If I use send in time for bo