Re: Script-only stacks [was: Re: Script Editor future]

2015-08-31 Thread Rolf Kocherhans
I have done this already in 2012 with my plugin: > With this arrangement, using git and external editors becomes easier to > integrate with the added benefit that one could implement a 2 save option, > saving a GUI version and a script only version of your stacks to different > locations at the

Re: [Bug] Red Dot Breakpoints Ignored - Recipe

2015-08-31 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 4:57 PM, Kay C Lan wrote: > Yes, that's exactly what I've come to do, but as per other posts, the > overall impression newcomers to LC will get with such idosyncracies of the > Script Editor/Debugger is not a good one. > Very much so. I would

[OT] Atom Text Editor for Script Editiing - First Impressions

2015-08-31 Thread Kay C Lan
Well finally got around to downloading Atom and giving it quick check out. Here are my quick observations compared to my favourite Text Editor and the Script Editor. Basically if you've never used a fully fledged Text Editor to write LC scripts I recommend you give Atom a try. You can get it

Re: HTML5 test

2015-08-31 Thread Kay C Lan
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Re: ANN: PowerDebug 1.1.17

2015-08-31 Thread Mark Wieder
On 08/31/2015 04:59 PM, Kay C Lan wrote: Yeah, sorry about that, you must have been posting there when I was drafting here. Thanks for you insight. Mail servers seem to have been a bit spotty lately. Thanks for keeping this subject alive. -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com

Re: Script-only stacks [was: Re: Script Editor future]

2015-08-31 Thread Mark Wieder
On 08/30/2015 02:24 AM, Peter TB Brett wrote: This already exists! It's called the Business Application Framework. :P -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to

Release: 8.0 DP4... also, HTML5

2015-08-31 Thread Fraser Gordon
Dear list members, We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.0 DP4. Warning: this is not a stable release. Please ensure you back up your stacks before testing them. This release contains an alpha release of HTML5 standalone deployment*. (*and also a fix for iOS device deployment.

LCB API's

2015-08-31 Thread Mike Kerner
Does anyone know how to find the LCB API's? I was trying to fix a bug in the new clock widget over the weekend, but the various functions that it calls are not documented anywhere that I've looked, so far. -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created

Re: LCB API's

2015-08-31 Thread Peter TB Brett
On 31/08/2015 16:38, Mike Kerner wrote: Does anyone know how to find the LCB API's? I was trying to fix a bug in the new clock widget over the weekend, but the various functions that it calls are not documented anywhere that I've looked, so far. If you go into the dictionary in the IDE,

LC676 IDE change in behavior?

2015-08-31 Thread Paul Dupuis
I have noticed that when I double click on a stack on my desktop (or ay folder) (on Windows) to open it in LiveCode 6.7.6, that when the stack opens, the stack window is show briefly and then hides. I have to open the stack window by double clicking on it in the application Browser for it to

Re: Release: 8.0 DP4... also, HTML5

2015-08-31 Thread Colin Holgate
Did you know that button is disabled? > On Aug 31, 2015, at 11:28 AM, Fraser Gordon wrote: > > > To deploy to HTML5, select the “HTML5” option in the standalone settings > screen and deploy as normal. ___ use-livecode

Re: Release: 8.0 DP4... also, HTML5

2015-08-31 Thread Fraser Gordon
On 31/08/2015 16:57, Colin Holgate wrote: > Did you know that button is disabled? It is disabled by design in commercial engines as we don't have everything ready for commercial deployment yet - for now, only Community edition will deploy to HTML5. The stack file is unprotected and easily

Re: LC676 IDE change in behavior?

2015-08-31 Thread Thierry Douez
Hi Paul, It looks like the latest bug report I sent to Qcc. Doesn't have the Qcc number right now. Regards, Thierry Thierry Douez - http://sunny-tdz.com Maker of sunnYperl - sunnYmidi - sunnYmage 2015-08-31 17:50 GMT+02:00 Paul Dupuis

Re: LCB API's

2015-08-31 Thread Mike Kerner
That's where I looked. If you look at the documentation for date, the only thing that comes up is local date, but in the example, local is colorized as a modifier and date as a keyword, and the same occurs with time - it is shown as local time, but again, local is colorized as a modifier and time

Re: LCB API's

2015-08-31 Thread Mike Kerner
In addition, in the dictionary, "localDate" is one word, but in the examples, and in the code in clock, it is not. On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 12:13 PM, Mike Kerner wrote: > That's where I looked. > If you look at the documentation for date, the only thing that comes up

Re: LCB API's

2015-08-31 Thread Ali Lloyd
The dictionary attempts to detect whether any code snippet is livecode script or livecode builder - in this case it appears to be autodetecting incorrectly. I will have to investigate ways of fixing this. The syntax of everything is as it is displayed in the syntax field - the "LocalDate" you can

Re: Release: 8.0 DP4... also, HTML5

2015-08-31 Thread David Bovill
ON OSX the widgets svgpath, circle progress and clock fail to load and show a red exclamation mark - is that expected? On 31 August 2015 at 17:01, Fraser Gordon wrote: > On 31/08/2015 16:57, Colin Holgate wrote: > > Did you know that button is disabled? > > It is

Re: Release: 8.0 DP4... also, HTML5

2015-08-31 Thread Colin Holgate
Although the notes about HTML5 not supporting widgets yet, I see them just fine when I drag them out. > On Aug 31, 2015, at 12:15 PM, David Bovill wrote: > > ON OSX the widgets svgpath, circle progress and clock fail to load and show > a red exclamation mark - is that

Re: LCB API's

2015-08-31 Thread Mike Kerner
Now I'm really confused. If I don't search for "date" or "time" and instead go to the LCB side, and scroll down to com.livecode.date, it lists localDate, but the example that comes up when you select it shows "local date" as the syntax and in the example, shows "local time". So, that's supposed

Re: LC676 IDE change in behavior?

2015-08-31 Thread Thierry Douez
Here it is: http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15721 and if you can provide a sample stack, it could help (see my last comment in qcc) Regards, Thierry 2015-08-31 18:02 GMT+02:00 Thierry Douez : > Hi Paul, > > It looks like the latest bug report I sent to Qcc. > >

HTML5 test

2015-08-31 Thread Colin Holgate
Here’s an old stack, saved as HTML5: http://colin.scienceninja.com/html5/scrolling/scrolling.html The performance in Safari on my Mac is as good as it is in LiveCode. On my iPad Air the frame rate is a little slow. I’m still waiting for the page to load on my iPhone 3gs! Publishing to HTML5

Re: LCB API's

2015-08-31 Thread Ali Lloyd
Yes, if you look at the table for the entry for com.livecode.date, there are three column headings: NameSummarySyntax LocalDate is the name of the entry in the dictionary. "the local date" is the syntax. The timezone thing you have found in the release notes is in the IDE changes section, undewr

Re: Release: 8.0 DP4... also, HTML5

2015-08-31 Thread Ali Lloyd
Hi David, You most likely have old versions of those widgets downloaded from the store - if you delete them from you My Livecode/extensions folder and restart you will see the functioning packaged versions. On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 5:27 PM Colin Holgate wrote: > Although

Re: LCB API's

2015-08-31 Thread Ali Lloyd
There is currently no way to reliably detect the timezone in LCB at the moment, unfortunately. So currently the timezone property of the clock is actually (as you note) incorrect, and actually represents a local timezone offset. We need to add some syntax to LCB which allows access to the

Re: LCB API's

2015-08-31 Thread Mike Kerner
So if the name and the syntax are not the same then why show the name? The first thing one would be inclined to do is put "localDate" into one's code, which, I gather, would be a mistake. In addition, the syntax in the documentation colors "local" differently than "date", implying that "local"

Re: LCB API's

2015-08-31 Thread Ali Lloyd
Yes, as I said before: "The dictionary attempts to detect whether any code snippet is livecode script or livecode builder - in this case it appears to be autodetecting incorrectly. I will have to investigate ways of fixing this." Showing the syntax instead of the name is probably something we

Re: [Bug] Red Dot Breakpoints Ignored - Recipe

2015-08-31 Thread Mark Wieder
Richard Gaskin writes: > > Mark Wieder wrote: > > The oddest part to me is that there's already a mechanism in the > > engine for dealing with this, but the IDE doesn't use it. > > What is that mechanism? > the watchedvariables It's not documented and currently broken in

Re: [Bug] Red Dot Breakpoints Ignored - Recipe

2015-08-31 Thread Mark Wieder
Kay C Lan writes: > The debugger does not stop because the condtion isn't invalid but it > doesn't tell me that - well it didn't use to but now I know that a reason > that Red Dots are ignored is because of a mistake in my conditional > statement it will trigger me to load it

Set the Behavior Not Working

2015-08-31 Thread Roger Guay
Can anyone tell me why this: "set the behavior of image id 1727 to button id 1721 of stack “mySillyStack”" does not work! i.e. it empties the behavior of image id 1727 Yet, I can paste: "button id 1721 of stack “mySillyStack”" into the behavior of image id 1727 and it

Re: LC676 IDE change in behavior?

2015-08-31 Thread Paul Dupuis
On 8/31/2015 12:39 PM, Thierry Douez wrote: > Here it is: > > http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15721 > > and if you can provide a sample stack, > it could help (see my last comment in qcc) > > Regards, > > Thierry Thank you. It is apparently the same bug. I added a sample stack and

Re: Set the Behavior Not Working

2015-08-31 Thread Scott Rossi
Try setting the behavior to the long id of the button. Otherwise, I believe you need to quote the button reference. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX/UI Design On 8/31/15, 10:57 AM, "Roger Guay" wrote: >Can anyone tell me why this: > > "set the

Re: Set the Behavior Not Working

2015-08-31 Thread Roger Guay
Thank you, Scott. The long id worked although I tried that earlier and it didn’t work? probably another error. Quoting the button reference did not work for me. Also tried bracketing and that did not work either. Thanks again! Roger > On Aug 31, 2015, at 11:02 AM, Scott Rossi

Re: Goodbye stsMLXEditor

2015-08-31 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 8/30/2015 7:46 PM, Kay C Lan wrote: Clicked on btn 'one' and I get this: 117,3,8 265,3,8 394,3,8 395,3,8 319,3,8 166,3,8 165,3,8 Like Mark said, the IDE interprets these for you. But Richard and I created a quick lookup utility for mobile app testing (where these same raw results are

Re: Documentation [was: Re: v8 DP3]

2015-08-31 Thread Mark Wieder
Charles Warwick writes: > However, you can also install a plugin called “Git Plus” that allows you to use keyboard shortcuts to > add/commit/push etc… Thanks - wasn't aware of that one. -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___

"it" refers to button after copy in IDE, but to group of button in standalone

2015-08-31 Thread Dr. Hawkins
This took a while to track down, partially due to the long compile times. the code: *copy* btn "ch" to *group* "btnGrp" *answer* "theLin: " & cr & "1: " & item 1 of theLin & cr & "2: " & item 2 of theLin & cr & "3: " & item 3 of theLin \ & cr & cr & it & cr & the long

Re: Release: 8.0 DP4... also, HTML5

2015-08-31 Thread Peter TB Brett
On 2015-08-31 17:27, Colin Holgate wrote: Although the notes about HTML5 not supporting widgets yet, I see them just fine when I drag them out. Yes! They work fine in the IDE. Unfortunately, they don't get included in the standalone yet (and even if they did, they wouldn't do anything

Re: Set the Behavior Not Working

2015-08-31 Thread Scott Rossi
I've always used the long id (or the behavior format itself) and have never had an issue assigning a behavior. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media UX/UI Design > On Aug 31, 2015, at 11:12 AM, Roger Guay wrote: > > Thank you, Scott. The long id worked although I

Re: Goodbye stsMLXEditor

2015-08-31 Thread Peter Haworth
+1, useful plugin On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 11:13 AM J. Landman Gay wrote: > On 8/30/2015 7:46 PM, Kay C Lan wrote: > > Clicked on btn 'one' and I get this: > > > > 117,3,8 > > 265,3,8 > > 394,3,8 > > 395,3,8 > > 319,3,8 > > 166,3,8 > > 165,3,8 > > Like Mark said, the

Re: ANN: PowerDebug 1.1.17

2015-08-31 Thread Mark Wieder
Kay C Lan writes: > > As the author of PowerDebug I was wondering if you had any insight into the > different levels of syntax checking LC applies when setting the script of > an object vs using the Scipt Editor. This is being discussed under the > recently posted Subject:

Re: HTML5 test

2015-08-31 Thread William Prothero
Colin: Cool! Bill > On Aug 31, 2015, at 9:46 AM, Colin Holgate wrote: > > Here’s an old stack, saved as HTML5: > > http://colin.scienceninja.com/html5/scrolling/scrolling.html > > The performance in Safari on my Mac is as good as it is in LiveCode. On my > iPad Air the

RE: Goodbye stsMLXEditor

2015-08-31 Thread Ralph DiMola
+2 I use it on mobile. Debugging mobile was a nightmare before it. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Peter Haworth Sent: Monday, August 31,

Re: Set the Behavior Not Working

2015-08-31 Thread Roger Guay
Thanks again, Scott. > On Aug 31, 2015, at 11:38 AM, Scott Rossi wrote: > > I've always used the long id (or the behavior format itself) and have never > had an issue assigning a behavior. > > Regards, > > Scott Rossi > Creative Director > Tactile Media UX/UI Design

Re: Goodbye stsMLXEditor

2015-08-31 Thread Peter Haworth
Folks, Thanks for all the info on this issue. I am not sure what happened as far as the script not being saved as I have not experienced that again and cannot remember the exact sequence of events that led up to it. I am confident that I did not receive any warnings or error when I saved the

Re: Set the Behavior Not Working

2015-08-31 Thread Richard Gaskin
Roger Guay wrote: Can anyone tell me why this: "set the behavior of image id 1727 to button id 1721 of stack “mySillyStack”" does not work! i.e. it empties the behavior of image id 1727 Yet, I can paste: "button id 1721 of stack “mySillyStack”" into the behavior of image

Re: [ANN]SoCal LiveCode Meeting, Sept 3

2015-08-31 Thread Paul Looney
Richard, Will we be discussing Clarence’s database speed improvements? Do you have a long VGA to VGA cable for the conference room monitor? Paul Looney > On Aug 29, 2015, at 5:34 PM, Richard Gaskin > wrote: > > The next meeting of the SoCal LiveCode User Group is

Re: Set the Behavior Not Working

2015-08-31 Thread Roger Guay
I think I understand your point here, Richard, except the association with your last sentence. I thought the long id would insure the use of a behavior of buttons outside the host stack. Put here is the thing: I successfully used this: "set the behavior of last image to the long id of

Re: Set the Behavior Not Working

2015-08-31 Thread Peter Haworth
The behavior is just a string of text so I think you need quotes around the behavior: set the behavior of the image to "button id 1721 of stack" & quote & "myCoolGameStack" & quote I set the behavior to the long id of the button, just because I don;t have write the clumsy code to put quotes

Re: Set the Behavior Not Working

2015-08-31 Thread Roger Guay
That works! Thanks, Peter. > On Aug 31, 2015, at 3:08 PM, Peter Haworth wrote: > > The behavior is just a string of text so I think you need quotes around the > behavior: > > set the behavior of the image to "button id 1721 of stack" & quote & > "myCoolGameStack" & quote > >

more cute IDE/standalone discrepancies

2015-08-31 Thread Dr. Hawkins
I'm hitting lots of these today, I suppose. A declaration beginning with on setPref pref theVal the IDE works just fine. It also compiles without error. On execution in the standalone, however, the handler is not found. I get errors 573 (handler not found) 587 (error in statement), 490

Re: [Bug] Red Dot Breakpoints Ignored - Recipe

2015-08-31 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 3:53 AM, Kay C Lan wrote: > The fact that valid = conditions are also ignored is clearly a bug. > > I tend to find that unconditional breakpoints are ignored more often than the conditionals. Then again, I tend to try once then put in an IF with

Re: [ANN]SoCal LiveCode Meeting, Sept 3

2015-08-31 Thread Richard Gaskin
Paul Looney wrote: Will we be discussing Clarence’s database speed improvements? I haven't received Clarence's code, but time permitting after Trevor's talk I'd love to dive in and see what we can do with it. Do you have a long VGA to VGA cable for the conference room monitor? Even

Re: Set the Behavior Not Working

2015-08-31 Thread Richard Gaskin
Roger Guay wrote: > I think I understand your point here, Richard, except the association > with your last sentence. I thought the long id would insure the use > of a behavior of buttons outside the host stack. Put here is the > thing: > > I successfully used this: > > "set the behavior of last

Re: [Bug] Red Dot Breakpoints Ignored - Recipe

2015-08-31 Thread Kay C Lan
On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 7:03 AM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: > > > > I tend to find that unconditional breakpoints are ignored more often than > the conditionals. > > Then again, I tend to try once then put in an IF with a breakpoint > statement. > Yes, that's exactly what I've come to

Re: ANN: PowerDebug 1.1.17

2015-08-31 Thread Kay C Lan
Yeah, sorry about that, you must have been posting there when I was drafting here. Thanks for you insight. On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 2:43 AM, Mark Wieder wrote: > Kay C Lan writes: > > > > > As the author of PowerDebug I was wondering if you had any

Re: Goodbye stsMLXEditor

2015-08-31 Thread Kay C Lan
On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 2:13 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: Like Mark said, the IDE interprets these for you. But Richard and I created > a quick lookup utility for mobile app testing (where these same raw results > are returned) which you could use for your situation too. >

Re: Goodbye stsMLXEditor

2015-08-31 Thread Kay C Lan
On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 3:52 AM, Peter Haworth wrote: > > I plan to try to reproduce the issue where strict compile errors are not > detected by a set script statement and submit it as a bug. > > Thanks Pete, I'm sure you'll post the number here so we can add our comments.

Re: [Bug] Red Dot Breakpoints Ignored - Recipe

2015-08-31 Thread Kay C Lan
On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 1:56 AM, Mark Wieder wrote: > You should file one if there isn't one already. > > #15830 If anyone wishes to confirm they are seeing this on something other than OS X 10.9.5 LC 7.1 rc1 ___ use-livecode

Re: Goodbye stsMLXEditor

2015-08-31 Thread Peter Haworth
Will do, should have it in there tomorrow. On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 5:07 PM Kay C Lan wrote: > On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 3:52 AM, Peter Haworth wrote: > > > > > I plan to try to reproduce the issue where strict compile errors are not > > detected by a set

Re: [ANN]SoCal LiveCode Meeting, Sept 3

2015-08-31 Thread Peter Haworth
Can't make it to Pasadena but I'd love to see the speed improvement code if possible. On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 4:15 PM Richard Gaskin wrote: > Paul Looney wrote: > > Will we be discussing Clarence’s database speed improvements? > > I haven't received Clarence's code,

Re: more cute IDE/standalone discrepancies

2015-08-31 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 8/31/2015 5:39 PM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: I'm hitting lots of these today, I suppose. A declaration beginning with on setPref pref theVal the IDE works just fine. It also compiles without error. On execution in the standalone, however, the handler is not found. I get errors 573 (handler

Re: Set the Behavior Not Working

2015-08-31 Thread Roger Guay
Thanks for taking so much time on this, Richard. I get it now, but here is another example where the dictionary could do better! > On Aug 31, 2015, at 4:37 PM, Richard Gaskin > wrote: > > An object reference can be a string, or an expression that evaluates to a

Installer maker window keeps blank on OS X

2015-08-31 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
Hello, I am packaging my OS X program with installer maker and codesign it. It works fine at all customers beside of one. Now a customer with OS X 10.9.5 tells me that she opens my installer and he gets only a blank white window. The window has my text in the title bar, but not text or any

Re: [OT] Atom Text Editor for Script Editiing - First Impressions

2015-08-31 Thread Kay C Lan
On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 11:50 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: What is your favorite Text Editor? BareBones' BBEdit, but it's FREE little brother TextWrangler would filfill all LC Script Editoring tasks. OS X only I'm afraid.

Re: [OT] Atom Text Editor for Script Editiing - First Impressions

2015-08-31 Thread Paul Hibbert
> On Aug 31, 2015, at 20:44, Kay C Lan wrote: > > 3) I can't get rid of the navigation pane down the left side of the window. Try cmd+\ it’s under the view menu right at the bottom. Paul ___ use-livecode mailing list

Re: [ANN]SoCal LiveCode Meeting, Sept 3

2015-08-31 Thread Richard Gaskin
Peter Haworth wrote: Can't make it to Pasadena but I'd love to see the speed improvement code if possible. Clarence's code may not prove a useful case for optimizing others given the unusual constraints he needs to work within. But if optimization techniques are your thing, this is perhaps

Re: [ANN]SoCal LiveCode Meeting, Sept 3

2015-08-31 Thread Dick Kriesel
On Aug 31, 2015, at 7:36 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > > Dick Kreisel's contribution was the fastest. I stood on the shoulders of giants. You and Bernd provided the breakthroughs in speed. Thanks for your code and your constructive influence. Can I come to your

Re: [OT] Atom Text Editor for Script Editiing - First Impressions

2015-08-31 Thread Richard Gaskin
Kay C Lan wrote: Well finally got around to downloading Atom and giving it quick check out. Here are my quick observations compared to my favourite Text Editor and the Script Editor. Good stuff, Kay. Thanks for posting that. What is your favorite Text Editor? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth

Re: Goodbye stsMLXEditor

2015-08-31 Thread Mike Bonner
I wonder if there is an issue for me because of windows version (windows only) No error reports, no scripts set, blocked until closing the editor. (windows 10) Making the change solves the issue, but then no errors are reported. Guess I should restart and hope. (I love windows) I'll hush now.

Re: Goodbye stsMLXEditor

2015-08-31 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 3:31 PM, Peter Haworth wrote: > However it seems that not all errors are detected. So far the missing > errors are those associated with Strict Compile mode, e.g. missing local > variable definitions, missing quotes around certain language elements. >