Re: [Bug 19998] The non-appearance of Polygon graphics in LC

2018-07-11 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
Well, aren't I glad I don't run an American business. 8-) I just run an EFL school that is not dependent on computers connected to the interweb and do funny things with Sanskrit. Richmond. On 12/7/2018 3:54 am, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: Bob Sneidar wrote: > On Jul 11, 2018, at

Re: Must have flexible row height for Datagrid Table

2018-07-11 Thread Brian Milby via use-livecode
And don't forget that the last piece of the AR improvement hasn't landed yet which will also improve DG performance. On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 11:14 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Tom Glod wrote: > > > Update on this .. I'm coming to realize that

Re: Must have flexible row height for Datagrid Table

2018-07-11 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Tom Glod wrote: > Update on this .. I'm coming to realize that dg isn't going to > cut it for my needs in applications where performance matters. > Datagrid is built using custom properties. which are way way way > slower than accessing variables i haven't tested in a while but last > i d

Re: Must have flexible row height for Datagrid Table

2018-07-11 Thread Brian Milby via use-livecode
Wondering if a widget would work for this. The tree widget doesn’t to a great job with extremely large data sets though. Thanks, Brian On Jul 11, 2018, 10:22 PM -0500, Tom Glod via use-livecode , wrote: > Update on this .. I'm coming to realize that dg isn't going to cut it > for my needs in

Re: Must have flexible row height for Datagrid Table

2018-07-11 Thread Tom Glod via use-livecode
Update on this .. I'm coming to realize that dg isn't going to cut it for my needs in applications where performance matters. Datagrid is built using custom properties. which are way way way slower than accessing variables i haven't tested in a while but last i did it was orrders of magnitu

Re: Docker

2018-07-11 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 07/11/2018 05:16 PM, Mike Bonner via use-livecode wrote: They'll be more annoyed that their car isn't where they left it. Of course if they understand sock science, maybe they'll go look for it in the dryer. Shouldn't be a problem. They can just take Bob's car and wonder why the presets got

Re: [Bug 19998] The non-appearance of Polygon graphics in LC

2018-07-11 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Bob Sneidar wrote: > On Jul 11, 2018, at 13:43 , Richard Gaskin wrote: >> When a computer's OS no longer receives critical patches for known >> exploits, it's no longer safe to use. > > I think it depends on what you use it for. True. If you unplug the power and use it as a doorstop, it's comple

Re: Docker

2018-07-11 Thread Mike Bonner via use-livecode
They'll be more annoyed that their car isn't where they left it. Of course if they understand sock science, maybe they'll go look for it in the dryer. On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 6:09 PM Mark Wieder via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > On 07/11/2018 03:18 PM, Bob Sneidar via us

Re: Docker

2018-07-11 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 07/11/2018 03:18 PM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: I'm in a strange mood. I got into my car last Sunday and discovered two of my three radio programmable buttons had changed stations. I'm the only person who drives my car, and I always lock it wherever I go. I'm not sure I haven't ent

Re: Docker

2018-07-11 Thread Roger Guay via use-livecode
Uh oh. And, how old are you, Bob? > On Jul 11, 2018, at 4:18 PM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode > wrote: > > I'm in a strange mood. I got into my car last Sunday and discovered two of my > three radio programmable buttons had changed stations. I'm the only person > who drives my car, and I alwa

Re: Docker

2018-07-11 Thread Jerry Jensen via use-livecode
Probably the same person who breaks into my car every night and turns the radio volume way up. .Jerry > On Jul 11, 2018, at 3:18 PM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode > wrote: > > I'm in a strange mood. I got into my car last Sunday and discovered two of my > three radio programmable buttons had c

Re: Docker

2018-07-11 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
I'm in a strange mood. I got into my car last Sunday and discovered two of my three radio programmable buttons had changed stations. I'm the only person who drives my car, and I always lock it wherever I go. I'm not sure I haven't entered some alternate universe or something. Bob S > On Jul

Re: Docker

2018-07-11 Thread prothero--- via use-livecode
Sock-re-Bleu, this is an odd thread. William Prothero http://earthlearningsolutions.org > On Jul 11, 2018, at 3:08 PM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode > wrote: > > OIC! Dwarves, being generally mischievous, and trolls color blind, I can see > how you could run into some QC issues. > > Bob S >

Re: Docker

2018-07-11 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
OIC! Dwarves, being generally mischievous, and trolls color blind, I can see how you could run into some QC issues. Bob S > On Jul 11, 2018, at 14:44 , Mark Wieder via use-livecode > wrote: > > On 07/11/2018 02:27 PM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: >> That is a GREAT idea! Imagine a pl

Re: Docker

2018-07-11 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 07/11/2018 02:27 PM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: That is a GREAT idea! Imagine a place where you can get money for all your one sock pairs! They send you a box, shipping is free, and then dwarves managed by troll overlords can match up as best they can all the socks they get! Still

Re: [Bug 19998] The non-appearance of Polygon graphics in LC

2018-07-11 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
I think it depends on what you use it for. I have yet to see a MacOS "exploit" that didn't require the end user do something they ought not to do, and/or authenticate an action they didn't initiate. And by exploit, I mean access the OS via network protocol and bypass protections in place to prev

Re: Docker

2018-07-11 Thread Tom Glod via use-livecode
The sock monster is real my family has been devastated by it for years. I don't find the subject particularly funny. On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 5:27 PM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > That is a GREAT idea! Imagine a place where you can get money for all y

Re: Docker

2018-07-11 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
That is a GREAT idea! Imagine a place where you can get money for all your one sock pairs! They send you a box, shipping is free, and then dwarves managed by troll overlords can match up as best they can all the socks they get! Bob S > On Jul 11, 2018, at 13:16 , Mike Bonner via use-livecode

Re: [Bug 19998] The non-appearance of Polygon graphics in LC

2018-07-11 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Richmond Mathewson wrote: "it's no longer safe to use" I wonder how many people actually believe that? Judging from cases we read about regularly, not enough. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web _

Re: [Bug 19998] The non-appearance of Polygon graphics in LC

2018-07-11 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
"it's no longer safe to use" I wonder how many people actually believe that? Richmond. On 11/7/2018 11:43 pm, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: Bob S wrote: >> On Jul 10, 2018, at 21:18 , Richard Gaskin wrote: >> >> Beyond that, given Apple's OS strategy which render usable >> hardware o

Re: Docker

2018-07-11 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
I'd far rather make a list with a glass of wine in my hand rather than a mouthful of whines. Richmond. On 11/7/2018 9:39 pm, Mike Bonner via use-livecode wrote: Someone needs to make a list.. How soon can one start to whine, or obfuscate, or speak of cheese. But I'm not sure how it would appl

Re: [Bug 19998] The non-appearance of Polygon graphics in LC

2018-07-11 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Bob S wrote: >> On Jul 10, 2018, at 21:18 , Richard Gaskin wrote: >> >> Beyond that, given Apple's OS strategy which render usable >> hardware obsolete prematurely, if you want an OS that's >> safely maintained apparently their guidance is to stop >> using macOS and upgrade to Linux. > > Obsolete

Re: Docker

2018-07-11 Thread Mike Bonner via use-livecode
Sounds like there is a need for a new Dropsock service so that socks can be posted and shared freely. Or perhaps a bitSock system where those who are advantaged can solve sock chain transactions, but it would require everyone to set up a digital hamper to store any earned sock currency. Next thin

Re: Docker

2018-07-11 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
I'm not sure about the rest of it, but the temporally advantaged are not eligible unless they actually find and deliver a lost sock. Unfortunately that's a catch-22 because the list does not accept enclosures, which is something I'd whine about if I had the chance. On 7/11/18 1:39 PM, Mike Bon

Re: Docker

2018-07-11 Thread Mike Bonner via use-livecode
Someone needs to make a list.. How soon can one start to whine, or obfuscate, or speak of cheese. But I'm not sure how it would apply to those who are temporally advantaged with access to the lost sock quark gate. On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 12:30 PM J. Landman Gay via use-livecode < use-livecode@li

Re: 9.0.1 "Become An Android Developer"

2018-07-11 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
I can't remember exactly now, but I think I restarted LC. I probably also reset the adb server in Terminal. In any case, the key seems to be forcing LC to forget the phone and then re-connect. On 7/11/18 10:27 AM, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode wrote: Well, I rebooted the photo. T

Re: Docker

2018-07-11 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
On 7/11/18 12:33 PM, Mike Bonner via use-livecode wrote: Sorry for the whine. You've been here long enough that you're entitled to a whine. I believe there's a participation quotient for those. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software |

Re: Docker

2018-07-11 Thread Tom Glod via use-livecode
I understand Mike wish you all the best in health and happiness and success with LC second. Maybe there are things you can do invite new ideas ... to try to help. I study metaphysics and I've seen some very unexpected connections between our physical health and the thoughts we beli

Re: Docker

2018-07-11 Thread Mike Bonner via use-livecode
If I make any real progress, I'll definitely write things down. Honestly, not sure how far I'll get, seems that every time I feel good enough to resume working on projects, the bad health truck parks on my face again. *grins from underneath a wheel* Wow what a morning I've been having. Sorry for

RE: [Bug 19998] The non-appearance of Polygon graphics in LC

2018-07-11 Thread Ralph DiMola via use-livecode
The 1911 is newer than that... It was first manufactured in 1912. All kidding aside it is as fine a piece of machinery now as it was then. I run a raid array served up by OpenVMS via SMB. The server has not been re-booted in a year. No wait I'm wrong not quite a year==> "OpenVMS V7.3-2 on node EIS

Re: [Bug 19998] The non-appearance of Polygon graphics in LC

2018-07-11 Thread Stephen Barncard via use-livecode
If it ain't broke, don't fix it. sqb -- Stephen Barncard - Sebastopol Ca. USA - mixstream.org On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 7:59 AM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Here are some rude words and phrases that come pretty high on my sh*t list > with reasons

Re: [Bug 19998] The non-appearance of Polygon graphics in LC

2018-07-11 Thread prothero--- via use-livecode
Richmond, Just wondering how you have time to do all that you do! I’m awed! Bill William Prothero http://earthlearningsolutions.org > On Jul 11, 2018, at 7:59 AM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode > wrote: > > Here are some rude words and phrases that come pretty high on my sh*t list > with

Re: 9.0.1 "Become An Android Developer"

2018-07-11 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode
Well, I rebooted the photo. That fixed it... seems it need to see the newly installed SDK. Brahmanathaswami On 7/11/18, 5:11 AM, "use-livecode on behalf of Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode" wrote: ["not a Livecode issue" -- I still think that a lesson on this in needed, and

Re: [Bug 19998] The non-appearance of Polygon graphics in LC

2018-07-11 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
Just don't shoot me until after I've brushed my hair (and changed my underpants). [and before the comments roll: I buy new underpants about twice a year: no 1911 long-johns for me.] Richmond. On 11/7/2018 6:06 pm, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: And may I point out that the Colt 1911 .4

9.0.1 "Become An Android Developer"

2018-07-11 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode
["not a Livecode issue" -- I still think that a lesson on this in needed, and that it be maintained for each change required for us to develop on Android, and be detailed as much as possible} OK, I tried by my best, 1) /Users/brahmanathaswami/OneDrive/App-Development/android-sdk-macosx/tools/a

Re: [Bug 19998] The non-appearance of Polygon graphics in LC

2018-07-11 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
And may I point out that the Colt 1911 .45 caliber handgun made in that same year is far from obsolete. :-) Bob S > On Jul 11, 2018, at 07:59 , Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode > wrote: > > 2.10. I brush my hair every morning with a pair of hairbrushes my > great-grandfather gave my gra

Re: [Bug 19998] The non-appearance of Polygon graphics in LC

2018-07-11 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
Here are some rude words and phrases that come pretty high on my sh*t list with reasons why: 1. EOL. I use Bryce 7 for producing 3D models even thought it was "EOL" 10 years ago (and ( was able to buy it for $10). I use LiveCode 7.1.4 on a regular basis as its interface is a lo

Re: Docker

2018-07-11 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Cute. Sounds like sandboxing for clone processes. Bob S > On Jul 10, 2018, at 16:42 , Mark Wieder via use-livecode > wrote: > > Kubernetes for sure. > This should get you started: > > https://deis.com/blog/2016/kubernetes-illustrated-guide/ ___

Re: Docker

2018-07-11 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
You may want to reserve a couple cores for the OS. Bob S > On Jul 10, 2018, at 14:40 , Mike Bonner via use-livecode > wrote: > > Mostly i'm looking to learn how things work, but the end goal is to a) have > a front lc based controller (httpd) that can hand off jobs to a pool of > docker "pro

Re: [Bug 19998] The non-appearance of Polygon graphics in LC

2018-07-11 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Obsolete is a strong word. There are different levels. I had a friend who firmly held that Obsolete meant when something newer could replace a device. But it can be argued, and I take this position, that a computer device is obsolete when it no longer is capable of running current software. But

Re: Docker

2018-07-11 Thread Tom Glod via use-livecode
Way cool MikeI hope you share your findings and experiments with us. On a similar wavelength. I am preparing a demo on multi-core processing with LC for the september conference. Of course its not true multi-core processing . but hoping to get good speed-ups results on a variety of t

Re: [ANN] Release 9.0.1 RC-1

2018-07-11 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
Oh, yeah? Next you'll be telling me that all your Quarks are charmed! Richmond. On 11/7/2018 2:15 pm, FlexibleLearning.com via use-livecode wrote: Mark Wieder wrote: > ...bartender says "we don't serve tachyons in here" > > A tachyon walks into a bar... I don't have time for tachyon jok

Re: [ANN] Release 9.0.1 RC-1

2018-07-11 Thread FlexibleLearning.com via use-livecode
Mark Wieder wrote: > ...bartender says "we don't serve tachyons in here" > > A tachyon walks into a bar... I don't have time for tachyon jokes :) Hugh Senior FLCo ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to

Re: [Bug 19998] The non-appearance of Polygon graphics in LC

2018-07-11 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
There's 2 good bits of advice. Thanks. Richmond. On 11/7/2018 7:18 am, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: Richmond wrote: > 1. I use LiveCode, mainly, on a Macintosh computer that cannot be > upgraded above 10.7.5 > > 2. I have no money to buy a newer machine. FWIW I've found good deals

Re: [Bug 19998] The non-appearance of Polygon graphics in LC

2018-07-11 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
Frankly my morals are a bit "flexible" in the area of Hackintoshes, but my laziness tells me that I'd be far better to get my Linux box sorted out . . . as: 1. Although Macintoshes are "jolly pretty" and easy to use, I have, to be honest, got past the stage of playing with plastic ducks in the