Using tsNetSmtpsync in Livecode app doesn't store sent messages on host smtp server

2022-02-28 Thread Peter Thirkell via use-livecode
I have an email server (using LivecodeHosting) which can be connected to by an email client using standard settings. When emails are sent using say Apple Mail, a copy of sent messages is automatically retained on the IMAP server, as well as within the Mail app itself. When I create a simple Liv

Re: MobileVibrate

2022-02-28 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
it was four years, last year, according to "mikey", whoever that is. On Mon, Feb 28, 2022 at 12:57 AM J. Landman Gay via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Yeah, and the list gets longer all the time. I'm not sure what that binary > conflict in the bug report means though. > -

[ANN] WordReport 1.3 Release

2022-02-28 Thread Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode
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Into the future

2022-02-28 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Okay, so I am at the point that I cannot build apps without codesigning and notarizing. Livecode will throw an error now if I try and don't have these certificates installed. Great. So I have been going through the tutorial, and I see I have to be an Apple Developer, which means I have to shel

Re: Into the future

2022-02-28 Thread Paul Dupuis via use-livecode
No, you really have to go through all of that. The few helper stacks out there are just front ends (using the shell command to call command line utilities from xcode) that make it easier once you have everything set up. Yes, it sucks. On 2/28/2022 12:18 PM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote:

Re: Into the future

2022-02-28 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
It occurs to me that this may drive a lot of hobbyist Livecoders away, and discourage others from coming onboard. There ought to be some kind of disclaimer on the website, since it is a paid product only now. I'd be a bit miffed if I bought an application for developing new apps and didn't know

Re: Into the future

2022-02-28 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
I guess the question now becomes, what is the last Livecode app that can create standalones without requiring these certificates? I may need to plant my flag there and go no further. Bob S > On Feb 28, 2022, at 09:36 , Bob Sneidar via use-livecode > wrote: > > It occurs to me that this may

Extracting Unicode text from Oracle over ODBC

2022-02-28 Thread Ben Rubinstein via use-livecode
I'm trying to extract text from an Oracle database, via ODBC, on Windows. (Using the 64 bit "Oracle in instantclient_19_5".) Generally fine, except that where the text contains Unicode characters beyond the Windows Latin1/CP512 character set, I'm not getting them. I'm not getting random garba

Re: Into the future

2022-02-28 Thread Paul Dupuis via use-livecode
It isn't really a LiveCode ting. This is Apple placing these requirements on their developers no matter what language you write code in for the macOS. On 2/28/2022 12:43 PM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: I guess the question now becomes, what is the last Livecode app that can create sta

Re: Into the future

2022-02-28 Thread Klaus major-k via use-livecode
Hi Bob, > Am 28.02.2022 um 18:18 schrieb Bob Sneidar via use-livecode > : > > Okay, so I am at the point that I cannot build apps without codesigning and > notarizing. Livecode will throw an error now if I try and don't have these > certificates installed. Great. > > So I have been going thr

Re: Into the future

2022-02-28 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
I understand that perfectly. I am not blaming the LC people, but the net effect is what it is. I *would* like to see the option for NOT codesigning apps, so that the choice can be left up to us, but I suspect that with OS 11, the option to run non-codesigned apps has already been deprecated. B

Re: Into the future

2022-02-28 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
Since the app is only for internal use, you might be able to use the bypass that opens an unnotarized app. You'd need to give directions to the users. https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202491 -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.co

Re: Into the future

2022-02-28 Thread General 2018 via use-livecode
Just had the same pain. mrSignNotarizeHelperV3 was great and sorted all the MacOS command line stuff with ease ( I think LC should have this facility built into the standalone builder) The Apple side of things unfortunately are what they are. Regards Camm > On 28 Feb 2022, at 18:20, Bob Sneid

Re: Into the future

2022-02-28 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
Right. The blockage is in Gatekeeper, so any user running Mac Catalina or newer will get the warning regardless of how the app was created. There's a way to download only the command line tools without needing to install Xcode. I wonder if that might work for you. I didn't save the info but so

Re: Into the future

2022-02-28 Thread Dan Friedman via use-livecode
" I think LC should have this facility built into the standalone builder " Couldn't agree more!! This should "just work" in LiveCode. -Dan On 2/28/22, 10:39 AM, "use-livecode on behalf of General 2018 via use-livecode" wrote: Just had the same pain. mrSignNotarizeHelperV3 was gre

Re: MobileVibrate

2022-02-28 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
So, no one has tried to use the mobileVibrate command on Android? I don't want to submit a bug report if no one else can confirm. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-liveco

Re: Into the future

2022-02-28 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Hi Klaus. Actually the new LC versions do not create the standalone without those certificates. That is the error dialog I get. If there is a way to disable that feature that would be great! Bob S > On Feb 28, 2022, at 10:18 , Klaus major-k via use-livecode > wrote: > > Hi Bob, > >> Am

Re: Into the future

2022-02-28 Thread Klaus major-k via use-livecode
Hi Bob, > Am 28.02.2022 um 19:52 schrieb Bob Sneidar via use-livecode > : > > Hi Klaus. > > Actually the new LC versions do not create the standalone without those > certificates. That is the error dialog I get. If there is a way to disable > that feature that would be great! I created a s

Re: Into the future

2022-02-28 Thread Klaus major-k via use-livecode
Addendum > Am 28.02.2022 um 19:52 schrieb Bob Sneidar via use-livecode > : > > Hi Klaus. > > Actually the new LC versions do not create the standalone without those > certificates. That is the error dialog I get. If there is a way to disable > that feature that would be great! > > Bob S I

Re: Into the future

2022-02-28 Thread Sean Cole via use-livecode
Klaus, This is a fantastic shout out. Could you repost that on its own with a better subject heading like "How to install XCode essentials only for LiveCode builds" (or something better). It deserves not to get lost and stand out in searches. Nice one. Sean Cole *Pi Digital Productions Ltd* On

How to install XCode essentials only for LiveCode builds

2022-02-28 Thread Klaus major-k via use-livecode
Hi all, Sean asked me to post this in a separate post. :-) We do not have to install the complete (ca. 16 GB) Xcode package to create a standalone with LC. Just install the neccessary command line tools via the TERMINAL, enter: xcode-select --install And it will download all neccessary stuff.

Re: Extracting Unicode text from Oracle over ODBC

2022-02-28 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
With the caveat that I know nothing about it, the normalize and formSensitive functions sound related. On 2/28/22 11:50 AM, Ben Rubinstein via use-livecode wrote: I'm trying to extract text from an Oracle database, via ODBC, on Windows. (Using the 64 bit "Oracle in instantclient_19_5".) Gener

Re: How to install XCode essentials only for LiveCode builds

2022-02-28 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
On 2/28/22 1:42 PM, Klaus major-k via use-livecode wrote: We do not have to install the complete (ca. 16 GB) Xcode package to create a standalone with LC. Just install the neccessary command line tools via the TERMINAL, enter: xcode-select --install And it will download all neccessary stuff.

Re: How to install XCode essentials only for LiveCode builds

2022-02-28 Thread Marty Knapp via use-livecode
Would this get around the need to have the “correct" version of Xcode installed? (wishful thinking…) --- Marty Knapp > On Feb 28, 2022, at 11:42 AM, Klaus major-k via use-livecode > wrote: > > Hi all, > > Sean asked me to post this in a separate post. :-) > > We do not have to install the c

Re: Into the future

2022-02-28 Thread Roger Guay via use-livecode
Hi Bob, I just now created a mac standalone in Monterey and LC 9.9.6 without a hitch. I do have xCode installed but I don’t know if that makes the difference. Roger > On Feb 28, 2022, at 10:52 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode > wrote: > > Hi Klaus. > > Actually the new LC versions do not c

Re: Into the future

2022-02-28 Thread matthias rebbe via use-livecode
Bob, with which version of LC did you see this? I had a look at the most current dp version of 10. If LC would require a certificate then there should be somewhere in the standalone settings a area where one could select an appropriate certificate. But that is not the case. What LC does for

Re: MobileVibrate

2022-02-28 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
On 2/28/22 12:50 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote: So, no one has tried to use the mobileVibrate command on Android?  I don't want to submit a bug report if no one else can confirm. Okay, I'm glad I posted here before submitting another "not a bug" report. There's a checkbox in Androi

Re: Into the future

2022-02-28 Thread Tom Glod via use-livecode
I use a mac in the cloud . but i have yet to do any signing I gotta get myself to do it this week. thanks for the reminder...i've been putting it off like its math homework only worse. :D https://www.macincloud.com/ On Mon, Feb 28, 2022 at 3:38 PM matthias rebbe via use-livecode < use-li

Re: Into the future

2022-02-28 Thread William Prothero via use-livecode
Dealing with Apple certificates is the most onerous part of building a standalone. I really wish the livecode team could help address this issue and help us out. best, Bill William A Prothero > On Feb 28, 2022, at 12:56 PM, Tom Glod via use-livecode > wrote: > > I use a mac in the cloud ..

Re: Into the future

2022-02-28 Thread Craig Newman via use-livecode
All. I am not sure I am following this thread correctly. Is the issue that some sort of certificate is now required for creating a standalone for desktop? Craig > On Feb 28, 2022, at 4:12 PM, William Prothero via use-livecode > wrote: > > Dealing with Apple certificates is the most onerous

Re: Into the future

2022-02-28 Thread General 2018 via use-livecode
I think some misunderstandings …. You can build LC standalone with no certifications on MacOS desktop. The issue comes when you wish to codesign and notarise for distribution downloads from web etc. To do any codesigning and notarization with apple you need the certificates and be a member of t

Re: How to install XCode essentials only for LiveCode builds

2022-02-28 Thread Mark Smith via use-livecode
How do you know which version you are getting with this? Or is it always just “the latest”? > On Feb 28, 2022, at 8:10 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode > wrote: > > On 2/28/22 1:42 PM, Klaus major-k via use-livecode wrote: >> We do not have to install the complete (ca. 16 GB) Xcode package

Re: Into the future

2022-02-28 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
I am getting, "Adding ad-hoc signature failed with error: replacing existing signature xcrun: error: invalid active developer path (/library/developer/commandlinetools), missing xcrun at...the code sign_allocate helper tool cannot be found in subcomponent /Contents/MacOS/revsecurity.dylib I th

Re: How to install XCode essentials only for LiveCode builds

2022-02-28 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Thanks Jacque. :-) I got ahead of that one. Bob S > On Feb 28, 2022, at 12:10 , J. Landman Gay via use-livecode > wrote: > > On 2/28/22 1:42 PM, Klaus major-k via use-livecode wrote: >> We do not have to install the complete (ca. 16 GB) Xcode package to create a >> standalone with LC. >> Ju

Re: MobileVibrate

2022-02-28 Thread scott--- via use-livecode
> I wish the docs would specify that you need to either include a library or a > permission for commands that require those. +1 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage you

Re: How to install XCode essentials only for LiveCode builds

2022-02-28 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Okay installing the command line tools fixed the certificate issue thanks all. Now there is some file not getting included involving the database api. I will have to nail that one down. Bob S > On Feb 28, 2022, at 11:42 , Klaus major-k via use-livecode > wrote: > > Hi all, > > Sean asked