Unfortunately, my tests with various M1 and M2 Mac models using the
community edition of LiveCode have yielded negative results.
1. The IDE opens but closes almost immediately.
2. Running a LiveCode app compiled for Intel-based Macs results in the
error message: "This application cannot be ru
I missed that too. Where can I read the new (and updated) lifetime license
policy?
-Dan
From: use-livecode on behalf of Richard
Gaskin via use-livecode
Date: Friday, July 26, 2024 at 10:54 AM
To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Cc: Richard Gaskin
Subject: Re: The story so far
Kevin Miller
> On 26 Jul 2024, at 8:01 pm, Heriberto wrote:
>
> I am currently using the "Community" version, but it does not
> work on Apple Silicon devices.
That’s a disappointment, I was thinking it might be my refuge for my Community
work.
Do standalones created with the Community Edition not wor
Kevin Miller wrote:
> After an initial misstep (sorry!), we tweaked the lifetime license
> policy past 2027 and that now seems to have been well received.
I missed that. Where can I read the new lifetime license policy?
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FourthWorld.com
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I hope this is generic enough.
I have several clients who use apps I created just for them, 20 years ago
or more. Frequently these are converted HyperCard stacks like address books
or recipe files. The apps are personal and no one else uses them. Every 2
or 3 years they contact me because the
FWIW, i was thinking about an example of a competing product, and its
pricing.
here's xojo's "buy" url: https://xojo.com/store/
these are annual prices. it's actually a little less expensive than i would
have guessed, but it is what it is.
On Fri, Jul 26, 2024 at 12:05 PM Heriberto Torrado via use
Basically my script takes a list of images, checks the imagedata
of every image for possible white areas at the top, bottom, left
or right, crops the image if necessary, resizes the image and
groups it with fields created on the fly with text data from
an xml file.
When I simply lock the screen a
Yes, it really is a shame what is happening. I understand that LiveCode
has every right to monetize their product. I would be more than willing
to donate a small amount on top of the license fee to support LiveCode.
Working with something so similar to HyperCard is truly enjoyable, and
the Live
Hi Heriberto,
I find myself in a very similar situation with 180+ employees the new licensing
modal is not suitable for the MSE space, at least, not for our specific needs.
Such a shame that after 10 years of working with LC and being along for the
ride as the product *nearly* matures I too will
Well given recent posts this morning I would contact Livecode Support and
discuss you specific situation with them.
Bob S
> On Jul 26, 2024, at 8:36 AM, Heriberto Torrado via use-livecode
> wrote:
>
> Hi Bob,
>
> Thank you very much for clarifying my question. Based on your response, it's
Concerning hosting, in my case when I initially developed the database for my
application, it was hosted on the Livecode servers. When the owner of the
company found out he had me take it down because he didn’t want company data on
servers he did not own / control. That is probably going to be a
Hi Bob,
Thank you very much for clarifying my question. Based on your response,
it's clear that LiveCode is not suitable for our needs.
In my current role at the new company, I've developed several small
applications using LiveCode for internal use: a client onboarding form,
a workflow manag
Because Kevin’s response to me in this exact scenario where I develop apps
myself with I license I pay for myself, but employees of the company I work for
use the app for business purposes, was that I have to pay for each user that
uses my app. It is a commercial app because it is used in the wo
Try wait 1 millisecond with messages then lock screen again. But I have run
into this issue where even when I pause execution by some means the screen does
not update. I find the whole process unreliable, and by the way when you lock
the screen then do something with a datagrid, the screen gets
The solution I came up with was a standalone that I could send messages to. I
called it Spinner because I wanted to show a dialog that displayed a message
and a spinning graphic while Livecode was processing handlers. I could send
commands to show itself, hide itself, display a message and activ
According to the CEO of Livecode, my scenario DOES qualify as a commercial app,
hence my consternation. I will have to pay 3 times what I currently pay now for
a license just to maintain status quo, and expanding the number of users of my
app is completely out of the question since I pay for the
Yes each user who uses your app will require a seat license.
Bob S
On Jul 25, 2024, at 5:28 PM, Heriberto Torrado via use-livecode
wrote:
Hello,
I apologize for asking my questions again, but after carefully reading the
previous email, I am still a bit confused.
My situation is as follows:
after the emails from kevin and heather, this morning, here's hoping we get
a discussion of a more typical/traditional corporate app dev tier, because
that's what lc is. it's not a db server. it's not an application server,
it's a app dev tool, for building standalone, single-threaded, engined
bina
A Freeware app can have commercial use and bound via its EULA. Terms of use,
copyright, disclaimers etc etc.
Smart Televisions have freeware apps with the commercial profit only coming
from the televisions sold. The freeware app has commercial purpose but does not
generate income alone.
defini
You mean without “Non-Commercial Use only”?
No, that would not be better. Why?
Because the normal user would not read a license file when such is available.
“Made with Livecode - Non-Comercial Use only” shows the user right away, that
the app is for “private” use only.
Von meinem iPad gesendet
Dear All,
Just to add to what Kevin said in his email - if you have specific licensing
questions about your particular position, please do email support. If you've
already emailed support - thank you, you've done the right thing. Please be
patient as we work our way through the large volume of
Would it be better if it just said "Made with LiveCode"?
Kind regards,
Kevin
Kevin Miller ~ ke...@livecode.com ~ http://www.livecode.com/
LiveCode: Build Amazing Things
On 26/07/2024, 12:06, "use-livecode on behalf of Keith Martin via
use-livecode" mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.run
Hi Bob,
Thanks for posting this.
If you ask 10 LiveCode customers what is important to them, you'll get 10
different answers. As an obvious example, I expect that if you were to ask
others on this list about mobile, many people would disagree that mobile is
less important. I appreciate you don
> On 26 Jul 2024, at 11:14, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode
> wrote:
>
> Free apps will display a LiveCode Create badge throughout the app, and will
> have “Made with LiveCode – Non Commercial Use Only” notices you are not
> permitted to disable.
Thanks for posting this. I'm happy to include
Folks, I'm happy to go on discussing the licensing model in general on here as
needed, for example edge cases or things that aren’t clear in the model, as it
helps us to hone it. But at this point if you have individual questions about
the costs for you under the new model, please email them to
Colin,
I get that the new model is a disappointment and may not work for you. And I'm
sorry about that. We are still considering the question you raised about using
the platform alongside Power Apps and whether or not there should be any
changes to the model at scale for those not using our dat
Hi Folks,
This has been a busy week and there has been a lot of discussion on here. Thank
you to all of you who have contributed to the debate here on this list. I
thought I'd post a quick summary of where our thinking is at so far.
I obviously spoke to several dozen of you personally prior to
Free Software has no EULA, not Commercial.
Freeware has EULA and can be Commercial.
Example, software has no cost but has Commercial licence.
> On 26 Jul 2024, at 11:01, Keith Martin via use-livecode
> wrote:
>
>
>>
>> On 26 Jul 2024, at 10:17, Colin Kelly via use-livecode
>> wrote:
>>
Actually I forgot that I had a "lock screen" at the very
beginning of my script. And successive "lock screen"
cumulate. Therefore the following sequence doesn't update
the screen layout :
lock screen
..
lock screen
..
unlock screen
lock screen
Funny how I can get stalled with very
Hm, how could one offer commercially a free app?
If you read the FAQs then it should be clear. Here’s again the part about free
apps.
“ If you build and ship an app that is completely free, with no commercial
benefit to you or to a client you build it for, then the end users of that app
are f
> On 26 Jul 2024, at 10:17, Colin Kelly via use-livecode
> wrote:
>
> The new licenses allow to create free apps as long as they are not used
> commercially.
Forgive the nit-picking, but my understanding was that the new licenses allow
to create apps that are not offered commercially in any w
Sent from my iPhone
> On 26 Jul 2024, at 08:13, jbv via use-livecode
> wrote:
>
> Hello Terry,
>
> Yes I thought of that. The problem is that "lock screen" hinders
> the progress bar to be updated while the loop is running.
> I also tried to shortly "break" the lock screen by inserting
> un
Like many here, I use LC to build utility apps to simplify some of the
workflows in my workplace, most are raw and dirty but do the job I develop them
for. I could create all of these using Python or the like but choose LC due to
its simplicity and self-documenting nature as I don’t have to revi
James, I think it means :
> On 26 Jul 2024, at 07:53, James Hale via use-livecode
> wrote:
>
> OR does a “seat” mean anyone using the app created by LC?
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I get what you are saying James, I’m just suggesting that there could be a
lower cost version of create for ‘non-developer’ seats. That version doesn’t
have access to the IDE and it’s only purpose run stacks or ‘apps’ that are
produced by the full version of create. You would still need the same
I was thinking you would omit the lock screen altogether. Or if things are too
slow without it can you move to a different card while all that other stuff is
happening?
From: use-livecode on behalf of jbv via
use-livecode
Date: Friday, 26 July 2024 at 5:13 PM
To: How to use LiveCode
Cc: j...
Hello Terry,
Yes I thought of that. The problem is that "lock screen" hinders
the progress bar to be updated while the loop is running.
I also tried to shortly "break" the lock screen by inserting
unlock screen
lock screen
within the loop, hoping that it would update the display, but
to no av
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