Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

2016-08-29 Thread Bob Sneidar
I've been getting random CTD on 8.0.2 in El Capitan. I was going to revert to 8.0.1 which seemed very stable to me. I'm sorry for not researching it further. I usually run into the issue while I am using the app in a production environment and I don't have the luxury of troubleshooting inline.

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

2016-08-26 Thread Richmond
Are you really banned from the Use-List? That's amazing, did you, as they suggest in that lovely film "Educating Rita", 'bugger the bursar'? As someone who has been banned twice, and, arguably, should have been banned a fair few other times, I really wonder what did that. Mark, you have just

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

2016-08-26 Thread panagiotis merakos
@Mark Can you please submit a bug report, and attach the crash log(s)? We plan to do a RC2 release late next week, so if what you see is a RC1 regression we will have to fix it for RC2. PS: A sample stack/pattern/recipe would be helpful as well On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 10:24 PM, mwieder

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

2016-08-26 Thread mwieder
(using Nabble since I'm still banned from the use-list) 8.1.0-rc-1 crashes pretty regularly and unexpectedly on me on osx, so I'm reverting to the latest dp release. Crashed Thread:0 Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread Exception Type:EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGSEGV) Exception Codes:

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

2016-08-25 Thread Monte Goulding
> On 26 Aug 2016, at 7:40 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > > Monte Goulding wrote: > > >> On 26 Aug 2016, at 7:03 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > >> > >> You'll also want to use those properties for any getters as well, > >> given that they are global and perhaps settable by

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

2016-08-25 Thread Richard Gaskin
Monte Goulding wrote: >> On 26 Aug 2016, at 7:03 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: >> >> You'll also want to use those properties for any getters as well, >> given that they are global and perhaps settable by third-party >> plugins. > > Here’s where the problems settle in. By using revIDESetPreference >

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

2016-08-25 Thread Monte Goulding
> On 26 Aug 2016, at 7:03 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > > You'll also want to use those properties for any getters as well, given that > they are global and perhaps settable by third-party plugins. Here’s where the problems settle in. By using revIDESetPreference

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

2016-08-25 Thread Richard Gaskin
Monte Goulding wrote: > Richard wrote: >> Any chance we can have the scriptTextFont and scriptTextSize global >> properties reinstated as the mechanism for that? >> >> http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=11596 > > After reading the report I’m not really sure if they are deprecated > or

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

2016-08-25 Thread Monte Goulding
> On 26 Aug 2016, at 6:39 AM, Monte Goulding wrote: > > If they are deprecated they may be removed so it might be time to move any > code that depends on these to use revIDEGetPreference. After reading the report I’m not really sure if they are deprecated or not…

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

2016-08-25 Thread Monte Goulding
> On 26 Aug 2016, at 6:41 AM, panagiotis merakos wrote: > > Could we probably set them on startup? > > put revIDEGetPreference("cScriptEditor,editor,font") into scriptTextFont > put revIDEGetPreference("cScriptEditor,editor,fontSize") into scriptTextSize Something would

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

2016-08-25 Thread panagiotis merakos
Could we probably set them on startup? put revIDEGetPreference("cScriptEditor,editor,font") into scriptTextFont put revIDEGetPreference("cScriptEditor,editor,fontSize") into scriptTextSize On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 11:33 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > Monte Goulding

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

2016-08-25 Thread Monte Goulding
> On 26 Aug 2016, at 6:33 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > > Any chance we can have the scriptTextFont and scriptTextSize global > properties reinstated as the mechanism for that? If they are deprecated they may be removed so it might be time to move any code that

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

2016-08-25 Thread Richard Gaskin
Monte Goulding wrote: >> On 26 Aug 2016, at 3:29 AM, Richmond wrote: >> >> Personally I find the teeny-weeny font size in the messageBox a >> bother: and I have had the font in the scriptEditor set to 18 >> for the last 10 years. > > I’ll add that too as they should use the same font + size.

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

2016-08-25 Thread Monte Goulding
> On 26 Aug 2016, at 6:23 AM, Mike Kerner wrote: > > All I know, right now, is that the app crashes on startup. I haven't > gotten much further than trying it in 8.0.2 and 8.1 rc1 In the simulator or on a device? ___

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

2016-08-25 Thread panagiotis merakos
Mike, you are probably affected by http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=18261 On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 11:23 PM, Mike Kerner wrote: > All I know, right now, is that the app crashes on startup. I haven't > gotten much further than trying it in 8.0.2 and 8.1 rc1

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

2016-08-25 Thread Monte Goulding
> On 26 Aug 2016, at 3:29 AM, Richmond wrote: > > Personally I find the teeny-weeny font size in the messageBox a bother: and I > have had the font in the > scriptEditor set to 18 for the last 10 years. I’ll add that too as they should use the same font + size.

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

2016-08-25 Thread Mike Kerner
All I know, right now, is that the app crashes on startup. I haven't gotten much further than trying it in 8.0.2 and 8.1 rc1 On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 4:18 PM, Monte Goulding wrote: > > > On 26 Aug 2016, at 6:15 AM, Mike Kerner > wrote: > > > >

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

2016-08-25 Thread Monte Goulding
> On 26 Aug 2016, at 3:18 AM, Richmond wrote: > > It might not be a bad idea to put that into the documentation. Why? I’m in the midst of fixing it ;-) ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

2016-08-25 Thread Monte Goulding
> On 26 Aug 2016, at 6:15 AM, Mike Kerner wrote: > > Rats. I found an ios crash that appears to be a regression from 8.0.2... Can you provide some more detail? We currently know about and will have a fix for a crash using 64 bit simulators + tsNet. Cheers Monte

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

2016-08-25 Thread Mike Kerner
Rats. I found an ios crash that appears to be a regression from 8.0.2... On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 3:53 PM, Monte Goulding wrote: > > > On 26 Aug 2016, at 2:15 AM, Mike Kerner > wrote: > > > > Hopefully, soon, we'll get script color printing back,

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

2016-08-25 Thread Monte Goulding
> On 26 Aug 2016, at 2:15 AM, Mike Kerner wrote: > > Hopefully, soon, we'll get script color printing back, too. Mike unfortunately the issue with script color printing on Mac is not just isolated to the IDE as it is color printing after setting the htmlText or

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

2016-08-25 Thread Mike Bonner
This: set the textsize of field "auto complete" of card "single line" of stack "message box" to 18 On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 12:17 PM, Mike Bonner wrote: > Oh, theres 2 more fields you'd have to adjust too I guess. (the ones > displaying the "best guess.." as you type. > > On

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

2016-08-25 Thread Richmond
Thank you very much. Richmond. On 25.08.2016 20:51, panagiotis merakos wrote: I am not sure if this is the expected behavior (i.e. to first open the Script Editor so as to get the msg box text colorized), so I filed a bug to investigate this further.

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

2016-08-25 Thread Mike Bonner
Oh, theres 2 more fields you'd have to adjust too I guess. (the ones displaying the "best guess.." as you type. On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 12:16 PM, Mike Bonner wrote: > Richmond.. Short term you can do this.. > > set the textsize of field "message" of card "single line" of

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

2016-08-25 Thread Mike Bonner
Indeed On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 12:27 PM, Richmond wrote: > Thanks. > > I am aware of that: http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=6=27829 > > I am fairly handy at mucking around with (and mucking up) components of > the IDE. > > However there are lots of

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

2016-08-25 Thread Richmond
Thanks. I am aware of that: http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=6=27829 I am fairly handy at mucking around with (and mucking up) components of the IDE. However there are lots of end-users, and lots more potential end-users (especially if I get my wicked way and get my book out to

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

2016-08-25 Thread Mike Bonner
Richmond.. Short term you can do this.. set the textsize of field "message" of card "single line" of stack "message box" to 18 set the textsize of field "results" of card "single line" of stack "message box" to 18 set the textsize of field "message" of card "multiple lines" of stack "message box"

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

2016-08-25 Thread Mike Kerner
hmmm, a good idea, letting the user right-click in the message box to edit the font sizes, or having a settings card... On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 2:05 PM, Richmond wrote: > Thank you very much. > > Richmond. > > > On 25.08.2016 20:51, panagiotis merakos wrote: > >> I

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

2016-08-25 Thread panagiotis merakos
I am not sure if this is the expected behavior (i.e. to first open the Script Editor so as to get the msg box text colorized), so I filed a bug to investigate this further. http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=18265 Best, Panos -- On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 8:18 PM, Richmond

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

2016-08-25 Thread Richmond
Colourising the messageBox is marvellous . . . But it would be even more marvellous if one could set the font and the font size for the messageBox like one can the scriptEditor. Personally I find the teeny-weeny font size in the messageBox a bother: and I have had the font in the scriptEditor

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

2016-08-25 Thread Richmond
Yes; you are quite right. I opened the scriptEditor and then the messageBox. It might not be a bad idea to put that into the documentation. Thank you, Richmond. On 25.08.2016 20:14, panagiotis merakos wrote: I think you must have opened the script editor first On 25 Aug 2016 18:11,

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

2016-08-25 Thread panagiotis merakos
I think you must have opened the script editor first On 25 Aug 2016 18:11, "Richmond" wrote: > At the risk of sounding very stupid indeed . . . > > I installed 8.1.0 rc 1 and typed this into the Message Box: > > put 5 into AA > add 1 to AA > put AA > > and saw no

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

2016-08-25 Thread Richmond
At the risk of sounding very stupid indeed . . . I installed 8.1.0 rc 1 and typed this into the Message Box: put 5 into AA add 1 to AA put AA and saw no colourisation at all. What did I do wrong? Xubuntu 16.04 64-bit. Richmond. On 25.08.2016 17:01, panagiotis merakos wrote: Nice to hear

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

2016-08-25 Thread panagiotis merakos
@Peter: You are right, this should read: "On Windows, the default value of the global dontUseQt and dontUseQtEffects properties has changed **from false to true**. Regarding OSX: - If OS X version >= 10.8 then dontUseQT=true - If LC engine == 64 bit then dontUseQT=true On Thu, Aug 25, 2016

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

2016-08-25 Thread Peter Bogdanoff
>From the release notes: "On Windows, the default value of the global dontUseQt and dontUseQtEffects properties has changed from true to false. This means that by default players created on Windows will use the DirectShow API for multimedia playback.” The second sentence seems to contradict

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

2016-08-25 Thread Mike Kerner
Hopefully, soon, we'll get script color printing back, too. 8 is On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 10:01 AM, panagiotis merakos wrote: > Nice to hear that, Mike. The 8.1 RC1 release is great IMO, because apart > from 80+ bug fixes, it contains a lot of enhancement requests, including

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

2016-08-25 Thread Mark Talluto
> On Aug 25, 2016, at 5:58 AM, panagiotis merakos > wrote: > > Dear list members, > > We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.1.0 RC-1. Thanks! This is wonderful. Best regards, Mark Talluto livecloud.io canelasoftware.com

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

2016-08-25 Thread panagiotis merakos
Nice to hear that, Mike. The 8.1 RC1 release is great IMO, because apart from 80+ bug fixes, it contains a lot of enhancement requests, including keyboard navigation in the Project Browser, script colorization in the msg box and some more:

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

2016-08-25 Thread Mike Kerner
I am really excited about 8.1. I've been working with it for a while. There are several nifty things in here. On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 8:58 AM, panagiotis merakos < panos.mera...@livecode.com> wrote: > Dear list members, > > We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.1.0 RC-1. > > >

[ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 RC-1

2016-08-25 Thread panagiotis merakos
Dear list members, We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.1.0 RC-1. Getting the Release === You can get the release at https://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/ or via the automatic updater. Release Contents LiveCode 8.1.0 RC-1 contains 85 bug