Re: [OT] Mavericks Auto Save and Red Traffic Light plus Back Dot

2014-01-25 Thread Mark Wieder
Martin- Saturday, January 25, 2014, 2:33:16 PM, you wrote: > Not sure if you think MacWorld is any more authoritative. Sorry. That was meant to have an implied , i.e., sarcasm not requiring further thought or discussion. And not really a comment on the content of the article, which seems genuine

Re: [OT] Mavericks Auto Save and Red Traffic Light plus Back Dot

2014-01-25 Thread stephen barncard
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 2:33 PM, Martin Koob wrote: > The interview is actually in MacWorld, MacRumors was linking to it. > > http://www.macworld.com/article/2090829/apple-executives-on-the-mac-at-30-the-mac-keeps-going-forever.html > it appears that Federighi is going to keep the parts of the U

Re: [OT] Mavericks Auto Save and Red Traffic Light plus Back Dot

2014-01-25 Thread Martin Koob
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Re: [OT] Mavericks Auto Save and Red Traffic Light plus Back Dot

2014-01-25 Thread stephen barncard
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Mark Wieder wrote: > If you're asking about support for 32-bit apps, yes, that works as > well. Mostly. Depends on whom you ask. And when. YMMV. > I have a lot of apps. Hmm. I hate to be a 'luddite' but…. *--* *Stephen Barncard - San Francisco Ca. USA - Deeds No

Re: [OT] Mavericks Auto Save and Red Traffic Light plus Back Dot

2014-01-25 Thread Mark Wieder
Stephen- Saturday, January 25, 2014, 10:33:25 AM, you wrote: > Is Mavericks 64 bit only? Yes. It's a 64-bit kernel, and that's a major limiting factor as to why it won't run with older hardware. I believe it's possible to switch the pre-Mavericks OSXs to 32-bit mode, but AFAIK it's not possible

Re: [OT] Mavericks Auto Save and Red Traffic Light plus Back Dot

2014-01-25 Thread stephen barncard
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 9:19 AM, Mark Wieder wrote: > Don't know. I skipped that one completely. Is Mavericks 64 bit only? *--* *Stephen Barncard - San Francisco Ca. USA - Deeds Not Words* ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com P

Re: [OT] Mavericks Auto Save and Red Traffic Light plus Back Dot

2014-01-25 Thread Mark Wieder
Stephen- Friday, January 24, 2014, 11:11:20 PM, you wrote: > On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 8:27 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: >> The UI is pretty much the same although they made some stupid UI >> decisions. >> > more than they screwed up Mountain Lion? Don't know. I skipped that one completely. -- -Mar

Re: [OT] Mavericks Auto Save and Red Traffic Light plus Back Dot

2014-01-25 Thread Mark Wieder
Martin- Friday, January 24, 2014, 6:14:41 AM, you wrote: > However just read an article on MacRumors Well. *That* sounds authoritative. -- -Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit t

Re: [OT] Mavericks Auto Save and Red Traffic Light plus Back Dot

2014-01-24 Thread stephen barncard
On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 8:27 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: > The UI is pretty much the same although they made some stupid UI > decisions. > more than they screwed up Mountain Lion? *--* *Stephen Barncard - San Francisco Ca. USA - Deeds Not Words* ___ use-li

Re: [OT] Mavericks Auto Save and Red Traffic Light plus Back Dot

2014-01-24 Thread Mark Wieder
Stephen- Thursday, January 23, 2014, 6:54:44 PM, you wrote: > I haven't even tried Mavericks. I couldn't find a single useful feature - > except that it's 64 bit - that mattered to me, and that breaks older stuff > I still use. Anyone find use for this thing other than 'being compatible' ? > I f

Re: [OT] Mavericks Auto Save and Red Traffic Light plus Back Dot

2014-01-24 Thread Martin Koob
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Re: [OT] Mavericks Auto Save and Red Traffic Light plus Back Dot

2014-01-24 Thread Kay C Lan
Just for confirmation, I'm definitely on 10.9.1 On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 6:02 PM, Björnke von Gierke wrote: > Go to System Preferences, and select the General tab. Slightly bellow the > middle, there's a checkmark saying "ask to keep changes when closing > documents". > OK, well that's cryptic..

Re: [OT] Mavericks Auto Save and Red Traffic Light plus Back Dot

2014-01-23 Thread stephen barncard
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 10:14 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > It's a per-app setting, usually in the View menu as far as I can see. None > of my apps had it turned on by default when I updated. oh, that's available in Mavericks, but not ML. Thanks, J. *--* *Stephen Barncard - San Francisco Ca. USA

Re: [OT] Mavericks Auto Save and Red Traffic Light plus Back Dot

2014-01-23 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 1/23/14, 9:43 PM, stephen barncard wrote: On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 7:41 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: That, at least, you can turn off. where? how? Tinkertool? It's a per-app setting, usually in the View menu as far as I can see. None of my apps had it turned on by default when I updated.

Re: [OT] Mavericks Auto Save and Red Traffic Light plus Back Dot

2014-01-23 Thread stephen barncard
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 7:41 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > That, at least, you can turn off. where? how? Tinkertool? *--* *Stephen Barncard - San Francisco Ca. USA - Deeds Not Words* ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please vis

Re: [OT] Mavericks Auto Save and Red Traffic Light plus Back Dot

2014-01-23 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 1/23/14, 8:54 PM, stephen barncard wrote: Same thing with the stupid FULL SCREEN MODE that, with multiple screens, That, at least, you can turn off. When I updated from Snow Leopard (having skipped right over Mt Lion for the same reasons you cite) the OS didn't even try to put me into f

Re: [OT] Mavericks Auto Save and Red Traffic Light plus Back Dot

2014-01-23 Thread stephen barncard
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 3:57 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > If I sound distainful, I am. Me too. I can manage my versions just fine. As with Final Cut and other apps, they have managed to 'stupify' the OS down to the lowest common denominator where users aren't trusted with their own data, counter

Re: [OT] Mavericks Auto Save and Red Traffic Light plus Back Dot

2014-01-23 Thread stephen barncard
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 3:16 PM, Graham Samuel wrote: > That's good info, but IMHO the whole business of removing "Save As..." and > forcing the user to make a duplicate and rename it (or use Time Machine) in > order to secure a particular revision of a document so as to allow > rollback, is clun

Re: [OT] Mavericks Auto Save and Red Traffic Light plus Back Dot

2014-01-23 Thread stephen barncard
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 3:34 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > All just groundwork, IMNSHO, for the inevitable day when iOS and OS X > merge > BARF *--* *Stephen Barncard - San Francisco Ca. USA - Deeds Not Words* ___ use-livecode mailing list use-liveco

Re: [OT] Mavericks Auto Save and Red Traffic Light plus Back Dot

2014-01-23 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 1/23/14, 5:16 PM, Graham Samuel wrote: That's good info, but IMHO the whole business of removing "Save As..." and forcing the user to make a duplicate and rename it (or use Time Machine) in order to secure a particular revision of a document so as to allow rollback, is clunky. So do we all.

Re: [OT] Mavericks Auto Save and Red Traffic Light plus Back Dot

2014-01-23 Thread Warren Samples
On 01/23/2014 05:34 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: I believe the spirit of this goes back to Steve Jobs' observation that most people's desktops are a complete mess of file icons. Obsessed with getting rid of clutter, his answer was to remove the file system from the things users need to worry about.

Re: [OT] Mavericks Auto Save and Red Traffic Light plus Back Dot

2014-01-23 Thread Richard Gaskin
Graham Samuel wrote: > ...IMHO the whole business of removing "Save As..." and forcing the > user to make a duplicate and rename it (or use Time Machine) in order > to secure a particular revision of a document so as to allow > rollback, is clunky. I think Apple wanted the saving to work the way

Re: [OT] Mavericks Auto Save and Red Traffic Light plus Back Dot

2014-01-23 Thread Graham Samuel
That's good info, but IMHO the whole business of removing "Save As..." and forcing the user to make a duplicate and rename it (or use Time Machine) in order to secure a particular revision of a document so as to allow rollback, is clunky. I think Apple wanted the saving to work the way it does i

Re: [OT] Mavericks Auto Save and Red Traffic Light plus Back Dot

2014-01-23 Thread Björnke von Gierke
Go to System Preferences, and select the General tab. Slightly bellow the middle, there's a checkmark saying "ask to keep changes when closing documents". Unselect it. Make sure to restart applications now, and then the new behaviour should immediately show up. For example in text edit, docume

Re: [OT] Mavericks Auto Save and Red Traffic Light plus Back Dot

2014-01-22 Thread Colin Holgate
I’m using 10.9.1 on a 13 inch MBP, and with TextEdit I never see that black dot. I can type frantically and quit the app in mid keystroke, and still the document had already saved the changes. Your symptoms suggest you’re not on 10.9. ___ use-liveco

[OT] Mavericks Auto Save and Red Traffic Light plus Back Dot

2014-01-22 Thread Kay C Lan
As this is the largest community of Mac users I know please forgive me for asking this off topic question here. I'm on 10.9.1 MBP 15" Retina, I have the latest versions of TextEdit 1.9 (310) and Pages 5.0.1 (1478) I recently purchased OS X Mavericks - The Missing Manual as I find these Missing Ma

[OT] Mavericks Auto Save and Red Traffic Light plus Back Dot

2014-01-22 Thread Kay C Lan
As this is the largest community of Mac users I know please forgive me for asking this off topic question here. I'm on 10.9.1 MBP 15" Retina, I have the latest versions of TextEdit 1.9 (310) and Pages 5.0.1 (1478) I recently purchased OS X Mavericks - The Missing Manual as I find these Missing Ma