Re: [not quite OT] Serving a standalone

2015-02-10 Thread Kay C Lan
On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 2:30 PM, William Prothero proth...@earthednet.org wrote: So in between playing and practicing jazz keyboard, riding my bike, and enjoying my wife’s company, I work on these coding projects, which give me great satisfaction. Well you know what they say about 'idle

Re: [not quite OT] Serving a standalone

2015-02-09 Thread Kay C Lan
On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 4:28 AM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote: But when exploring desktop vs mobile, you'll need to make different layouts for each anyway, so why not do both? I think this is the most important point of all. In all the 'one code for all platforms' hype of

Re: [not quite OT] Serving a standalone

2015-02-09 Thread William Prothero
Kay: Thanks for the ideas! The plan you suggest sounds quite good and it looks like I can probably accommodate both desktop and iOS. I’m a retired prof who did a LOT of coding for my classes, and now I have no ambition to develop a real business, not that I would turn down income that wouldn’t

Re: [not quite OT] Serving a standalone

2015-02-09 Thread Richard Gaskin
William Prothero wrote: Richard and Kay: Thanks for the stimulating thoughts. Each of your arguments are very persuasive. And it seems that the most important thing is where you decide to start. If you focus is on mobile, Kay’s approach is the most sensible. I like Richard’s for desktop,

[not quite OT] Serving a standalone

2015-02-08 Thread Graham Samuel
As with so much in this world, technical and otherwise, I am profoundly ignorant of the following, and I’d be grateful for any explanations, best practice etc. The idea is as follows: 1. I write a desktop program (OK, an app) that runs, say, on PC and Mac. Good LC territory. This program is

Re: [not quite OT] Serving a standalone

2015-02-08 Thread Earthednet-wp
Graham, I've had a lot of experience doing this for a 300seat oceanography class. I used my own server to store student work. Students downloaded the software in this instance. They were identified by a 7 digit number. I used a combination of files uploaded and downloaded to a local temp

Re: [not quite OT] Serving a standalone

2015-02-08 Thread Graham Samuel
Paul, that’s a great summary. I shall be studying it carefully. Thanks so much Graham On 8 Feb 2015, at 16:01, Paul Dupuis p...@researchware.com wrote: On 2/8/2015 8:52 AM, Graham Samuel wrote: 6. What happens now when that downloaded instance of the app is called upon to save a file? Is

Re: [not quite OT] Serving a standalone

2015-02-08 Thread William Prothero
Graham, I think that you should think in terms of “licenses” rather than apps downloaded when trying to enforce limits. Education, nowadays is less centralized and students want to be able to access resources from multiple places. School, home, mobile phones, tablets. Then, if there is too much

Re: [not quite OT] Serving a standalone

2015-02-08 Thread Richmond
On 08/02/15 15:52, Graham Samuel wrote: Right . . . As with so much in this world, technical and otherwise, I am profoundly ignorant of the following, and I’d be grateful for any explanations, best practice etc. The idea is as follows: 1. I write a desktop program (OK, an app) that runs,

Re: [not quite OT] Serving a standalone

2015-02-08 Thread Graham Samuel
OK, you live in Bulgaria. If you lived in the UK, it is highly probable that you would have read, seen on TV (still some episodes to go!) or possibly in the theatre, a version of “Wolf Hall” by Hilary Mantel (both volumes produced so far won the prestigious Booker Prize). Then you’d know who

Re: [not quite OT] Serving a standalone

2015-02-08 Thread Paul Dupuis
On 2/8/2015 8:52 AM, Graham Samuel wrote: 6. What happens now when that downloaded instance of the app is called upon to save a file? Is it just saved on the local computer? If so, what if Jack and Jill both use the program on the same machine at different times? Will Jill’s files overwrite

Re: [not quite OT] Serving a standalone

2015-02-08 Thread Richard Gaskin
William Prothero wrote: Hopefully the coming HTML5 export will make it easier to integrate Livecode apps into a web delivery. The main advantage of this is the ease of updating the software. The HTML output option will be a great thing for many projects, but I think it's safe to say it's

Re: [not quite OT] Serving a standalone

2015-02-08 Thread William Prothero
Richard: This sounds like a great way to go! I think I’m getting that the “Splash” app downloads the executables and whatever media is needed, and then these are erased at the end of the session, so that new ones are downloaded each session? Or is it done more like the browser cache, where it

Re: [not quite OT] Serving a standalone

2015-02-08 Thread William Prothero
Richard: Whoops, I see you said the downloads were erased at the end of each session. Where do you put the executables? On the Mac, in the Applications folder there would have to be the admin permissions given. The Documents folder? The Application Support folder inside the user’s Library

Re: [not quite OT] Serving a standalone

2015-02-08 Thread Richard Gaskin
William Prothero wrote: Richard: This sounds like a great way to go! And it has the best feature of all: it's fun to make. :) I think I’m getting that the “Splash” app downloads the executables and whatever media is needed, and then these are erased at the end of the session, so that new

Re: [not quite OT] Serving a standalone

2015-02-08 Thread William Prothero
Richard: This sounds very attractive. I hadn’t thought of just opening the app directly from the server and running it in memory. Thanks for the encouragement. I think it’s a good idea. Best, Bill On Feb 8, 2015, at 3:21 PM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote: William Prothero

Re: [not quite OT] Serving a standalone

2015-02-08 Thread Richard Gaskin
William Prothero wrote: Richard: Whoops, I see you said the downloads were erased at the end of each session. Where do you put the executables? On the Mac, in the Applications folder there would have to be the admin permissions given. The Documents folder? The Application Support folder

Re: [not quite OT] Serving a standalone

2015-02-08 Thread Kay C Lan
On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 5:59 AM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote: With LiveCode we can do the same by merely extending the anchor window (or splash stack) setup to open stacks from URLs rather than local files: go url http://yourdomain/stacks/stackfile.livecode; And if you

Re: [not quite OT] Serving a standalone

2015-02-08 Thread William Prothero
Richard and Kay: Thanks for the stimulating thoughts. Each of your arguments are very persuasive. And it seems that the most important thing is where you decide to start. If you focus is on mobile, Kay’s approach is the most sensible. I like Richard’s for desktop, but would expect to have to