Re: Another bizarre Apple patent troll case, in which Runtime Revolution plays a bit part

2013-06-04 Thread Jeff Reynolds
i thought most of the human interface and multimedia patient nonsense was done by the late 90s. soo many of these trolls with the cdrom boom we went thru and it was pretty funny then as the ideas had been out there on public display most of the time way before. At one point our company was appro

Re: Another bizarre Apple patent troll case, in which Runtime Revolution plays a bit part

2013-06-04 Thread Richard Gaskin
Dar Scott wrote: > I would love to see inventors prosper. Q: In the current litigious business environment we find ourselves in, how many people does it take to write a line of code? A: Three. One programmer to write the code. One attorney to check each line of code against existing patents.

Re: Another bizarre Apple patent troll case, in which Runtime Revolution plays a bit part

2013-06-04 Thread Dar Scott
I would love to see inventors prosper. I recognize the debates in the moral standing of IP. I know many ideas have come up and were not developed. I know how easy it is to see a good idea, maybe an invention, and think it is obvious in one's trade, and it might be. We have different ideas on

Re: Another bizarre Apple patent troll case, in which Runtime Revolution plays a bit part

2013-06-03 Thread Colin Holgate
I can't track it down right now, but while I was at Apple (1987-1992) someone did a "throwing Finder", where you could grab files and throw them to the trash. Someone tried to sue everyone who had made a CD-ROM once, I think that failed. Hopefully this one will fail too. On Jun 3, 2013, at 11:

Re: Another bizarre Apple patent troll case, in which Runtime Revolution plays a bit part

2013-06-03 Thread Jim Lambert
Bruce wrote: > The patent is RE43,318 which is a reissue of 6,920,619. The first few claims > will give you an idea of what is covered: > > 1. A system for manipulating images comprising a screen upon which an image > is displayed; and a computer coupled to the screen, the computer causing the

Re: Another bizarre Apple patent troll case, in which Runtime Revolution plays a bit part

2013-06-03 Thread Bruce Pokras
The patent is RE43,318 which is a reissue of 6,920,619. The first few claims will give you an idea of what is covered: 1. A system for manipulating images comprising a screen upon which an image is displayed; and a computer coupled to the screen, the computer causing the images to be manipulat

Re: Another bizarre Apple patent troll case, in which Runtime Revolution plays a bit part

2013-06-03 Thread Jim Lambert
Kee wrote: > Wondering what the lawyer patented and how it was different from state of the > art 1993. I believe the patent was awarded for the utility and novelty of gestures. Actually touching an object on the screen and flinging it away to delete it. Touch screen interaction then was usually

Re: Another bizarre Apple patent troll case, in which Runtime Revolution plays a bit part

2013-06-02 Thread kee nethery
In the article: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/06/apple-betrayed-by-its-own-law-firm/ I am not sure what the lawyer patented exactly but if is was moving an object on the screen by pointing to it, there were touch screens way back when and the sample code from the 1993 HyperTalk

Re: Another bizarre Apple patent troll case, in which Runtime Revolution plays a bit part

2013-06-02 Thread Brahmanathswami
Great publicity Mind-boogling that these software patents get approved. Wasn't this part of Hypercard? on mouseDown grab me end mouseDown Brahmanathaswami Björnke von Gierke wrote: Of large importance to this list is the third last paragraph, (last link on the first page of two): " ..

Re: Another bizarre Apple patent troll case, in which Runtime Revolution plays a bit part

2013-06-02 Thread Richmond
On 06/02/2013 08:12 PM, Jim Lambert wrote: Also, Here's an article the lawyer's wife wrote for RunRev's Newsletter in 2005, two years pre-iPhone. http://newsletters.livecode.com/march/issue22/newsletter2.php Jim Lambert ___ Interestingly enough the

Re: Another bizarre Apple patent troll case, in which Runtime Revolution plays a bit part

2013-06-02 Thread Richmond
On 06/02/2013 08:09 PM, Jim Lambert wrote: Dr. Milekic participated in the use-revolution list in 2006 & 2004. His questions seeme very much related to this invention. Jim Lambert ___ Bulgarians would make fairly pointed noises that Dr Milekic is a

Re: Another bizarre Apple patent troll case, in which Runtime Revolution plays a bit part

2013-06-02 Thread Jim Lambert
Also, Here's an article the lawyer's wife wrote for RunRev's Newsletter in 2005, two years pre-iPhone. http://newsletters.livecode.com/march/issue22/newsletter2.php Jim Lambert ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit thi

Re: Another bizarre Apple patent troll case, in which Runtime Revolution plays a bit part

2013-06-02 Thread Jim Lambert
Dr. Milekic participated in the use-revolution list in 2006 & 2004. His questions seeme very much related to this invention. Jim Lambert ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and man

Re: Another bizarre Apple patent troll case, in which Runtime Revolution plays a bit part

2013-06-02 Thread Björnke von Gierke
Of large importance to this list is the third last paragraph, (last link on the first page of two): " ... Milekic had never written a line of code or taken a programming class; he told a Philly tech publication that his touchscreen software was built with a program called RunTime Revolution, wh

RE: Another bizarre Apple patent troll case, in which Runtime Revolution plays a bit part

2013-06-02 Thread John Dixon
Definition of a 'good' start ? ... ten dead lawyers > Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2013 20:26:17 -0700 > Subject: Another bizarre Apple patent troll case, in which Runtime Revolution > plays a bit part > From: bornst...@designeq.com > To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > > htt

Another bizarre Apple patent troll case, in which Runtime Revolution plays a bit part

2013-06-01 Thread Howard Bornstein
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/06/apple-betrayed-by-its-own-law-firm/ -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubsc