Re: Church bell app?

2014-08-24 Thread stephen barncard
On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 8:14 PM, Kay C Lan wrote: > they tick. If it were me I'd crack the case open, remove the battery > and just have it plugged in permanently. The other fire problem you > there goes battery backup. You'll need a UPS then. *--* *Stephen Barncard - San Francisco Ca. USA - De

Re: Church bell app?

2014-08-23 Thread Kay C Lan
On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 2:59 AM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: > > Anyway, I agree: we want something to do once and be done. > > Once we record the bells, would an iOS device (ipod touch, iphone, ipad) be > able to do the same thing? Leave it permanently plugged to power and the > adaptors? iOS devices a

Re: Church bell app?

2014-08-23 Thread JB
America and society have changed drastically in the last 10 years. People are organized and many times they steal from you are damage something you own simply because they want to destroy you. Aa a group they are like a bunch of termites. They each do their part no matter lhow small it is becaus

Re: Church bell app?

2014-08-23 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 3:51 PM, stephen barncard < stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com> wrote: > so tempting to steal or lose. Interface is more difficult. > My initial reaction is that if someone is breaking into a byzantine church, electronics will be *way* low on their priority list. The icons a

Re: Church bell app?

2014-08-23 Thread stephen barncard
On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 11:59 AM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: > Once we record the bells, would an iOS device (ipod touch, iphone, ipad) be > able to do the same thing? Leave it permanently plugged to power and the > adaptors? > so tempting to steal or lose. Interface is more difficult. *--* *Stephen

Re: Church bell app?

2014-08-23 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 12:46 PM, stephen barncard < stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com> wrote: > I think the extreme cheap-out solutions would be a disservice to the > client, especially with regard to reliability. > It's not a client; it's my own parish :) Anyway, I agree: we want something to d

Re: Church bell app?

2014-08-22 Thread stephen barncard
I think the extreme cheap-out solutions would be a disservice to the client, especially with regard to reliability. *--* *Stephen Barncard - San Francisco Ca. USA - Deeds Not Words* On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 3:46 AM, JB wrote: > A good Heavy Duty 15 amp home timer. > > Intermatic-DT620-Indoor-Di

Re: Church bell app?

2014-08-22 Thread JB
A good Heavy Duty 15 amp home timer. Intermatic-DT620-Indoor-Digital-Plug-In Don’t use the manual switch with a heavy load. It seems to shorten the life. John Balgenorth On Aug 22, 2014, at 1:58 AM, Kay C Lan wrote: > On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 9:13 PM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: >> >> It plays from

Re: Church bell app?

2014-08-22 Thread Kay C Lan
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 9:13 PM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: > > It plays from a selection of pre-recorded music (and I think it can add > more). > > The very simple solutions won't work; it needs to, for example, go off > every day at 6. > Used early model MacMini via eBay - $50-$100 Used AKAI LPK25 Midi

Re: Church bell app?

2014-08-19 Thread Rick Harrison
How about a simple timer from Radioshack? You can set it to go on at 6:00pm and go off again one or two minutes later, or whenever you want. I wouldn’t give up on simple solutions so easily if I were you. Just my 2 cents. Rick On Aug 19, 2014, at 9:13 AM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: > On Mon, Aug 18,

Re: Church bell app?

2014-08-19 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 9:16 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > It also isn't clear whether the bell should be just a single tone or if it > needs to play music. The cost of the original proposed system implies > there is more to it than just a single bell. > It plays from a selection of pre-recorded

Re: Church bell app?

2014-08-18 Thread Peter Haworth
The big sound system companies have departments that specialize in selling to churches, it's big business. Most of the church systems I've seen are huge overkill so the $6000 price tag doesn't surprise me at all. More often than not, nobody at the church has a clue as to how to use them, except to

Re: Church bell app?

2014-08-18 Thread J. Landman Gay
It also isn't clear whether the bell should be just a single tone or if it needs to play music. The cost of the original proposed system implies there is more to it than just a single bell. On August 18, 2014 9:52:54 AM CDT, dunb...@aol.com wrote: >The idea was to be able to start the bell at

Re: Church bell app?

2014-08-18 Thread dunbarx
So then LC may be the solution, since it can play any sort of sound. That it can also play those sounds when you want it to is just lagniappe. Craig -Original Message- From: Mike Kerner To: How to use LiveCode Sent: Mon, Aug 18, 2014 10:59 am Subject: Re: Church bell app

Re: Church bell app?

2014-08-18 Thread Mike Kerner
; From: Rick Harrison > To: How to use LiveCode > Sent: Mon, Aug 18, 2014 10:12 am > Subject: Re: Church bell app? > > > Hi there, > > The idea that the church bell needs an app is total overkill. > > Get a simple Radioshack or Home Depot wireless doorbell > type d

Re: Church bell app?

2014-08-18 Thread dunbarx
requirements, to see if an old laptop and LC with an interface gadget or a $50 timer is appropriate. Craig Newman -Original Message- From: Rick Harrison To: How to use LiveCode Sent: Mon, Aug 18, 2014 10:12 am Subject: Re: Church bell app? Hi there, The idea that the church bell

Re: Church bell app?

2014-08-18 Thread Rick Harrison
Hi there, The idea that the church bell needs an app is total overkill. Get a simple Radioshack or Home Depot wireless doorbell type device and hook up the output to a relay that turns on the amplifier and the bell tone. (Many times the relay is included, because that’s how it works!) Even “The

Re: Church bell app?

2014-08-18 Thread Richmond
On 18/08/14 05:54, Peter Bogdanoff wrote: Obviously, Richmond, if the bell is tolling, it is not tolling for thee. It seems that $6000 will pay the electrical bill for that amplifier to be left turned on for a long time. Peter UCLA Not at $6000 it isn't! Quasimodo. __

RE: Church bell app?

2014-08-17 Thread Ralph DiMola
--- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Peter Bogdanoff Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2014 10:54 PM To: How to use LiveCode Subject: Re: Church bell app? Obviously, Richmond, if the bell is tolling, it is not tolling for thee. It seems that $6000 will pay the el

Re: Church bell app?

2014-08-17 Thread Peter Bogdanoff
Obviously, Richmond, if the bell is tolling, it is not tolling for thee. It seems that $6000 will pay the electrical bill for that amplifier to be left turned on for a long time. Peter UCLA On Aug 17, 2014, at 2:11 PM, Richmond wrote: > On 18/08/14 00:06, Dr. Hawkins wrote: >> I just about ch

Re: Church bell app?

2014-08-17 Thread Tim Selander
;Service USB Plus. > > > Fun and simple. A few hundred dollars for the hardware, a few hours of joy > for the software. > > > I can kibitz if you want, but this is easy fun stuff. > > > > -Original Message- > From: Dr. Hawkins > To: How to use LiveCode

Re: Church bell app?

2014-08-17 Thread dunbarx
From: Dr. Hawkins To: How to use LiveCode Sent: Sun, Aug 17, 2014 5:06 pm Subject: Church bell app? I just about choked over the price: my church is gearing up to pay $6,500 for a church bell system (and that's because we *already* have the speakers from the old system). I'm scratc

Re: Church bell app?

2014-08-17 Thread Mike Kerner
you mean something like this? http://goo.gl/NhJTkp On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 7:07 PM, Colin Holgate wrote: > In answer to an unrelated question I was looking at this earlier today: > > http://www.belkin.com/us/p/P-F7C027/ > > With something like that you ought to be able to remotely turn on the >

Re: Church bell app?

2014-08-17 Thread Colin Holgate
In answer to an unrelated question I was looking at this earlier today: http://www.belkin.com/us/p/P-F7C027/ With something like that you ought to be able to remotely turn on the power to the amplifier, and play the appropriate sound from the same device that told the amplifier to turn on. And

Re: Church bell app?

2014-08-17 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 2:11 PM, Richmond wrote: > That's odd; all the churches I know they have somebody who rings the bells. > > By that I mean 'bells' as in 'bells' not fake bells. > That would certainly be preferred, but it isn't always possible. Our building wouldn't even support the struc

Re: Church bell app?

2014-08-17 Thread Richmond
On 18/08/14 00:06, Dr. Hawkins wrote: I just about choked over the price: my church is gearing up to pay $6,500 for a church bell system (and that's because we *already* have the speakers from the old system). I'm scratching my head to figure out why this isn't a matter of a near trivial app on

Church bell app?

2014-08-17 Thread Dr. Hawkins
I just about choked over the price: my church is gearing up to pay $6,500 for a church bell system (and that's because we *already* have the speakers from the old system). I'm scratching my head to figure out why this isn't a matter of a near trivial app on a dedicated ipod and an amplifier. THe