> Licensing emails are going out,
Did everyone else receive theirs? I still haven’t heard anything. I wasn’t
going to push or be impatient but it’s been on my mind. Just wondering if I
somehow got forgotten or they at just struggling to get through the tens of
paying users.
Sean Cole
Pi
Not even close it would seem. For $300 you will get Win/Mac/Lin (like we
used to). But now we'll have to pay $300 for each with some weird-as
discount applied (maybe).
It's very out of whack. I like the model used by xojo that is based on
Desktop, Web, iOS and Android. It makes much more sense.
I'd also be curious how the new model compares to xojo
On Thu, Sep 2, 2021 at 12:17 PM Mike Kerner
wrote:
> I was not paying that close attention to all the details. Did LC take the
> current community installer down? If they did not, then this act seems odd.
> If they did, then I am not
I was not paying that close attention to all the details. Did LC take the
current community installer down? If they did not, then this act seems odd.
If they did, then I am not surprised.
On Thu, Sep 2, 2021 at 12:07 PM Bernard Devlin via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> I
I see that some of "the community" have now uploaded dozens of the
installers from the old Livecode page to archive.org.
https://archive.org/search.php?query=creator%3A%22LiveCode%2C+Inc.%22
I don't know what LC Ltd's thinking was in deleting the old pages, but
clearly some of "the community"
Kevin kayaked,
>Look what happened to Open Office. It died because no one wanted to work on it.
???
The bulk of the developers bolted and formed LibreOffice from the OO codebase.
It’s alive and well--I just downloaded a new version this morning.
It isn’t that OO faded or died, but that
> On 1 Sep 2021, at 10:02, matthias rebbe via use-livecode
> wrote:
>
> Whenever I suggested to people, who used the software for creating internally
> for their company, to support LC at least with a Community Plus subscription,
> I always got the same answer: Why should I buy a license when
That’s true Kevin for some business cases - and I am sure you speak for your
existing customers.
However it does not apply to businesses built around GPL licensed code. Nor
does it apply to publicly funded initiative like EU funding, where an open
source license is required to avoid fears of
You speak from my heart.
I had exactly the same thoughts about a free version. And i was proven right at
least here in my edged circle (i hope that is the correct expression). Whenever
I suggested to people, who used the software for creating internally for their
company, to support LC at
but OpenOffice is not!
On Wed, 1 Sept 2021 at 09:15, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> LibreOffice is alive and kicking.
>
> On Wed, 1 Sep 2021 09:48 David Wood via use-livecode, <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>
> > > LiveCode is magical.
Thanks Curry, we appreciate the feedback. Hope you feel better soon!
Kind regards,
Kevin
Kevin Miller ~ ke...@livecode.com ~ http://www.livecode.com/
LiveCode: Develop Yourself
On 31/08/2021, 22:28, "use-livecode on behalf of Curry Kenworthy via
use-livecode" wrote:
Kevin:
>
LibreOffice is alive and kicking.
On Wed, 1 Sep 2021 09:48 David Wood via use-livecode, <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> > LiveCode is magical. (From a beta HyperCard user!)
>
>
> Gosh! I was also a Hypercard user. But a beta Hypercard user! WOW!
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> >
> > On Wed, 1 Sept
> LiveCode is magical. (From a beta HyperCard user!)
Gosh! I was also a Hypercard user. But a beta Hypercard user! WOW!
Dave
>
> On Wed, 1 Sept 2021 at 01:04, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>
>> I honestly never quite saw how offering a free version
For what it's worth, I am also an open source skeptic. Look what happened
to Open Office. It died because no one wanted to work on it.
But please simplify the pricing. And I am not a fan of subscription prices
either. Let me buy and upgrade if I want when a new version is out.
LiveCode is
I honestly never quite saw how offering a free version alongside commercial
versions was going to fly. People need to eat, and if you give something away
for free, people will simply not pay for it.
I did the free version for a couple years, mainly because what I create helps
almost
Kevin:
> After 8 years with an open source offering we have come to
> the conclusion this is not the way forward for LiveCode.
I agree. In 2013 I was on-the-record as an OSSLC skeptic.
I urged caution, but my input was summarily brushed aside;
"we've already decided with our VIPs" was the
Hello everyone,
Overall I feel happy and excited about these changes.
While I started out with the Community, and saw a lot of value in the free
version for getting it into the hands of students and more people in
general. It obviously didn't work to have the desired effect, and if
keeping the
Of course LiveCode are prefectly entitled to go the way they want to.
What is a very great pity is that they are no longer making existing
Community versions
available for download.
Richmond.
On 31.08.21 19:16, Mike Kerner via use-livecode wrote:
I just read and watched Kevin's announcement
I don't know your specific license plan and Heather has left for the evening,
however generally if we promised something in the past we do honour it.
Licensing emails are going out, if you don't have yours by tomorrow feel free
to drop us a line in support.
Kind regards,
Kevin
Kevin Miller ~
What has happened to price lock-ins though? Will they get honoured? I'm
still paying for a web deployment that still doesn't work properly yet.
What is happening to that?
On Tue, 31 Aug 2021 at 17:48, Mike Kerner via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> I did not mean that we
I did not mean that we could get it to another firm for commercial use, I
meant that we could potentially limp through, ourselves, with the exception
of the pieces that were not OSS'd.
Most of the time when we ask for source escrow, the fees are insane, if the
developer will even discuss it.
On
So I am disappointed that the code will not be out in the open in the
event of a business failure
The GPL open source license we used never provided this sort of protection due
to the terms of the GPL. For that reason, we continued to sell source code
escrow licenses to some commercial
I just read and watched Kevin's announcement about LC licensing.
The value for us in the OSS license was simply a greater level of assurance
that there would be longevity in the event that LC the company failed, as
the source was still there for someone else to pick up. I think that's how
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