The road to enhanced support for Cocoa, Unicode, GTK, iOS, and all the
other things that make up v7 has been a long one, and while it's not
been without difficulty this third point release seems very promising.
But don't take my word for it. I'm just a fanboy - you can safely
ignore anything
uld not be taken as problems.
Craig
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From: Richard Gaskin
To: How to use LiveCode
Sent: Thu, Feb 26, 2015 3:46 pm
Subject: LiveCode 7.0.3: a new meme
The road to enhanced support for Cocoa, Unicode, GTK, iOS, and all the
other things that make up v7 has been a lon
Richard,
I’m wondering if the standalone engine size is a concern for anyone else. I
have a standalone for iOS that is 3 times smaller when built with 6 over 7. I
think I understand that the unicode dictionary is responsible, but until there
is a way to selectively remove that, I would rather h
I must say that I agree with Eric on this one. I never use Unicode and
the size and performance penalties do not seem like a reasonable
tradeoff. I do understand your point about having to maintain multiple
versions. I would suggest that solving selectively removing the unicode
dictionary
dunbarx wrote:
> Do you think it a good idea to open a new category in the forum,
> perhaps in the "Talking LiveCode" area? It would allow issues to
> aired, and to be vetted before they are submitted as bugs. I
> suspect many of the new aspects of v.7 will just take getting
> used to, and should
Michael Doub wrote:
> I must say that I agree with Eric on this one. I never use Unicode
> and the size and performance penalties do not seem like a reasonable
> tradeoff. I do understand your point about having to maintain
> multiple versions. I would suggest that solving selectively removi
Hi Richard
There are various bugs in 6.7 and 7 that concern me (all of which I can deal
with through various kludges) - what I apparently don't have any control
over and which is much more serious is the long amount of time it takes apps
built with 6.7 or 7 to launch on iOS
Please see http://qual
Quick follow-up - my same prototype app that takes FIFTEEN SECONDS to launch
on iOS opens instantly on Android lollipop (or at least so quick I perceive
it as instantly)
Kind regards
Dave
Dave Kilroy wrote
> Hi Richard
>
> There are various bugs in 6.7 and 7 that concern me (all of which I ca
Richard,
I'm still seeing a huge slowdown with some parts of the IDE in LC7.0.3 on Mac
OS X 10.10.2, for example if I click any title in the main menubar such as
'File' or 'Edit' in 6.x.x the menu appears instantly, but if I click any title
in the menuBar of LC7.0.x it takes at least 3 seconds
On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 8:35 AM, Richard Gaskin
wrote:
>
> But it really was very small, arguably more so than it's now big.
>
> One of the smallest apps on my Mac right now is Apple's calculator,
> weighing in a 9.5 MBs, ... compared to the LiveCode 7.0.3 runtime engine
> that does so much more
> On 26 Feb 2015, at 20:45, Richard Gaskin wrote:
>
> #2 Priority: Performance
> ———
I am only a mere Community user who recently started using LC (perhaps 12
months or so) and have no axe to grind and do not carry any baggage regarding
LC so I hope my comments are taken on face value
On February 27, 2015 2:26:17 AM CST, Terence Heaford
wrote:
>
>The DataGrid consists of 6 columns:
>
>Date, Type, Description, Amount, Balance, Category.
>From the description, it sounds like you could use a regular field with tab
>delimited data, which would give much better scrolling speed. T
Especially since we now have right justified tabs
On Fri, Feb 27, 2015, 8:09 AM J. Landman Gay
wrote:
> On February 27, 2015 2:26:17 AM CST, Terence Heaford
> wrote:
> >
> >The DataGrid consists of 6 columns:
> >
> >Date, Type, Description, Amount, Balance, Category.
>
> From the description, i
Hi Pete,
> Am 27.02.2015 um 17:11 schrieb Peter Haworth :
>
> Especially since we now have right justified tabs
ah, yes, true, but I cannont find it in the dictionary!?
Any hints what term to look for, there is no hint in "tabstops".
Thanks!
> On Fri, Feb 27, 2015, 8:09 AM J. Landman Gay
> wr
Hi Klaus,
it works beautifully and is called:
from the dictionary 7.x.x
tabAlign
Type: property
Syntax:
set the tabAlign [of line lineNumber] of field to tabAlignList
Kind regards
Bernd
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I'll put in a plug in for Bernd's modTablefield, great flexibility, easy to
use.
On Fri, Feb 27, 2015, 8:29 AM BNig wrote:
> Hi Klaus,
>
> it works beautifully and is called:
>
> from the dictionary 7.x.x
>
> tabAlign
>
> Type: property
>
> Syntax:
> set the tabAlign [of line lineNumber] of fiel
> Am 27.02.2015 um 17:21 schrieb BNig :
>
> Hi Klaus,
>
> it works beautifully and is called:
> from the dictionary 7.x.x
> tabAlign
ah, OK, thanks, looks like this is missing in the 6.7.3 dictionary!? :-(
Is it also missing in that engine?
> Kind regards
> Bernd
Best
Klaus
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h
On 27 Feb 2015, at 16:48, Klaus major-k wrote:
>
>> Am 27.02.2015 um 17:21 schrieb BNig :
>>
>> it works beautifully and is called:
>> from the dictionary 7.x.x
>> tabAlign
>
> ah, OK, thanks, looks like this is missing in the 6.7.3 dictionary!? :-(
> Is it also missing in that engine?
The f
Hi Fraser,
> Am 27.02.2015 um 17:58 schrieb Fraser Gordon :
> On 27 Feb 2015, at 16:48, Klaus major-k wrote:
>>> Am 27.02.2015 um 17:21 schrieb BNig :
>>> it works beautifully and is called:
>>> from the dictionary 7.x.x
>>> tabAlign
>> ah, OK, thanks, looks like this is missing in the 6.7.3 dict
Maybe for a simple put all the data in and scroll it but not for all the other
things that a DataGrid can do.
My post was in response to Richard Gaskin’s request for information regarding
areas of poor performance in LC.
I do have knowledge of using the regular field with tab delimited data but
Terry,
Can you give a brief description of what functionality you need? I
understand that your original post was regarding Datagrid performance and
how it varies between LC releases but another good comparison would be
between Datagrid and an alternative implementation, assuming that the
functiona
> On 27 Feb 2015, at 19:44, Peter Haworth wrote:
>
> Terry,
> Can you give a brief description of what functionality you need? I
> understand that your original post was regarding Datagrid performance and
> how it varies between LC releases but another good comparison would be
> between Datagri
Hi Terence,
I agree with your comment about why a developer should have to implement
the features you mentioned.
However, I suggest you take a look at Bernd's modTableField control. I
believe it has almost all, if not all, of the functionality you mention.
You can argue that he shouldn't have had
+1 for modTableField.
> On Feb 27, 2015, at 12:35 PM, Peter Haworth wrote:
>
> Hi Terence,
> I agree with your comment about why a developer should have to implement
> the features you mentioned.
>
> However, I suggest you take a look at Bernd's modTableField control. I
> believe it has almos
Terence Heaford wrote:
> Maybe for a simple put all the data in and scroll it but not for all
> the other things that a DataGrid can do.
>
> My post was in response to Richard Gaskin’s request for information
> regarding areas of poor performance in LC.
IIRC your frequent posts here about DG scr
Paul Hibbert wrote:
> I'm still seeing a huge slowdown with some parts of the IDE in
> LC7.0.3 on Mac OS X 10.10.2, for example if I click any title in
> the main menubar such as 'File' or 'Edit' in 6.x.x the menu appears
> instantly, but if I click any title in the menuBar of LC7.0.x it
> takes
Dave Kilroy wrote:
> Quick follow-up - my same prototype app that takes FIFTEEN SECONDS
> to launch on iOS opens instantly on Android lollipop (or at least
> so quick I perceive it as instantly)
...
>> Please see http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=14116 for
>> details -
This is a new feat
dunbarx wrote:
> Do you think it a good idea to open a new category in the forum,
> perhaps in the "Talking LiveCode" area? It would allow issues to
> aired, and to be vetted before they are submitted as bugs. I
> suspect many of the new aspects of v.7 will just take getting used
> to, and should
Richard I salute you!
A breathtaking display of how to apply a positive spin to any story :)
Kind regards
Dave
Richard Gaskin wrote
> Dave Kilroy wrote:
>
> > Quick follow-up - my same prototype app that takes FIFTEEN SECONDS
> > to launch on iOS opens instantly on Android lollipop (or at
The developer's generic response:
"It's not a bug, it's a feature!"
-- Peter
Peter M. Brigham
pmb...@gmail.com
http://home.comcast.net/~pmbrig
On Feb 27, 2015, at 5:27 PM, Dave Kilroy wrote:
> Richard I salute you!
>
> A breathtaking display of how to apply a positive spin to any story :)
>
Richard,
After reading your reply I saw the problem must be caused by on my iMac, so I
dug a little deeper and stumbled across the cause:
For comparison, I installed LC7.0.3 on another Mac (running on OS X 10.7.5) and
found it worked fine, so I went back to my iMac and removed all plugins from
Paul Hibbert wrote:
> Richard,
>
> After reading your reply I saw the problem must be caused by on
> my iMac, so I dug a little deeper and stumbled across the cause:
>
> For comparison, I installed LC7.0.3 on another Mac (running on
> OS X 10.7.5) and found it worked fine, so I went back to my iM
On 2/27/2015 9:35 PM, Paul Hibbert wrote:
just on a hunch I decided to move all of my projects out of the 'My
LiveCode' folder and put them into a 'LiveCode Projects' folder, that
made a huge difference! so now the contents of the 'My LiveCode'
folder is just the Plugins folder and a Preferences
Richard Gaskin wrote:
the point of my post is to identify issues that may prevent people
from migrating to v7.
Richard: recently someone else on our team using LC 7 server (community
-- digital ocean ubuntu 12.* with all the needed libraries) had trouble
with this simple xml tree creation.
Richard Gaskin wrote:
have you tried Bernd's nify gadget?
No, but would like to .. where is it?
modTableField
BR
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> On 27 Feb 2015, at 20:35, Peter Haworth wrote:
>
> Hi Terence,
> I agree with your comment about why a developer should have to implement
> the features you mentioned.
>
> However, I suggest you take a look at Bernd's modTableField control. I
> believe it has almost all, if not all, of the f
Hi Terry,
> Just had another look at this (modTableField_0_2_9New.livecode), assuming
> this is the latest version?
>
> Changed the random data setting to 5000 and the alternate highlighted
> lines did not centre the text correctly?
Bug 14238 - backgroundpattern of a field out of sync if fo
Brahmanathaswami wrote:
> Richard: recently someone else on our team using LC 7 server
> (community -- digital ocean ubuntu 12.* with all the needed
> libraries) had trouble with this simple xml tree creation.
> We had a paid support ticket in with LC HQ who simply confirmed
> "Yes you have all
No, it's in the ~/Documents folder.
After reading Jacque’s reply (thank you Jacque), I tried moving groups of files
and folders back into the ‘My LiveCode’ folder to see if there was an offending
document or folder, but now everything works fine, so I can only imagine it was
possibly a fault in
Paul wrote...
> I ran Disk Utility to check the HD for repair/permissions and all is fine.
Checking the permissions only checks software installed by Apple giants their
receipts. Nothing else is checked, certainly nothing related to directory
structures.
If DO you think there might have been s
James Hale wrote:
> Paul wrote...
>> I ran Disk Utility to check the HD for repair/permissions and all
> is fine.
>
>
> Checking the permissions only checks software installed by Apple
> giants their receipts. Nothing else is checked, certainly nothing
> related to directory structures.
>
> If DO
Thanks for reminding me about fsck, I haven't used that in a long time, then
after reading this article I remembered why…
https://support.apple.com/en-ca/HT203176
…it's no longer recommended by Apple since OS X 10.4, but I do realise it can
be a useful fallback if all else fails.
I had already
For disk repair, I use Disk Warrior. Your disc should,be ok using Disc Utility,
tho. But Disk Warrior has saved data not readable by Disc Utility for me.
Bill
William Prothero
http://es.earthednet.org
> On Mar 1, 2015, at 7:48 PM, Paul Hibbert wrote:
>
> Thanks for reminding me about fsck, I h
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