Re: MAC OS X Lion, shell and language

2011-11-10 Thread René Micout
One line in less ! Thank you Ken ! :-) A little subsidiary question: with: put shell(defaults read NSGlobalDomain) what is in second line the big number like that: ---- = XX ? René Le 10 nov. 2011 à 02:45, Ken Ray a écrit : On Nov 8, 2011, at

Re: MAC OS X Lion, shell and language

2011-11-09 Thread Ken Ray
On Nov 8, 2011, at 1:28 PM, René Micout wrote: Thanks Warren, I simplify my script : get shell (defaults read NSGlobalDomain) get line lineOffset(AppleLocale,it) of it put false into vxFrançais ; if fr is in it then put true into vxFrançais Even easier: put shell(defaults read

MAC OS X Lion, shell and language

2011-11-08 Thread René Micout
A little information : in Mac OS X Lion when you need to know what is the default (country) language of the system : put defaults read NSGlobalDomain into vxLangage get line 10 of shell (vxLangage) Before Lion it was line 9 of shell now line 10 Bon souvenir de Paris René

Re: MAC OS X Lion, shell and language

2011-11-08 Thread Pete
: in Mac OS X Lion when you need to know what is the default (country) language of the system : put defaults read NSGlobalDomain into vxLangage get line 10 of shell (vxLangage) Before Lion it was line 9 of shell now line 10 Bon souvenir de Paris René

Re: MAC OS X Lion, shell and language

2011-11-08 Thread René Micout
computer and I'm in the USA. Pete Molly's Revenge http://www.mollysrevenge.com On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 9:03 AM, René Micout rene.mic...@numericable.comwrote: A little information : in Mac OS X Lion when you need to know what is the default (country) language of the system : put defaults

Re: MAC OS X Lion, shell and language

2011-11-08 Thread Warren Samples
On 11/08/2011 11:03 AM, René Micout wrote: A little information : in Mac OS X Lion when you need to know what is the default (country) language of the system : put defaults read NSGlobalDomain into vxLangage get line 10 of shell (vxLangage) Before Lion it was line 9 of shell now line 10

Re: MAC OS X Lion, shell and language

2011-11-08 Thread Ben Rubinstein
I think if you're shipping an app based on this, it would be worth doing a little more parsing of the output. I think what you're probably looking for is the 'AppleLocale', but at least on my system this is reported after the 'AppleLanguages', which can be an array of one to many things. On

Re: MAC OS X Lion, shell and language

2011-11-08 Thread René Micout
Yes of course, it is better, line 10 is the first language in the list (and I think it is the default system (country) language. AppleLocale is line 33... Thank you Warren Le 8 nov. 2011 à 18:39, Warren Samples a écrit : Not even close here. Don't you want the line that begins with

Re: MAC OS X Lion, shell and language

2011-11-08 Thread Warren Samples
On 11/08/2011 12:01 PM, René Micout wrote: Yes of course, it is better, line 10 is the first language in the list (and I think it is the default system (country) language. AppleLocale is line 33... Thank you Warren Le 8 nov. 2011 à 18:39, Warren Samples a écrit : I get a very different line

Re: MAC OS X Lion, shell and language

2011-11-08 Thread René Micout
Thank you for this information... I have only one Macintosh in one only country... :-) Le 8 nov. 2011 à 19:01, René Micout a écrit : Yes of course, it is better, line 10 is the first language in the list (and I think it is the default system (country) language. AppleLocale is line 33...

Re: MAC OS X Lion, shell and language

2011-11-08 Thread René Micout
Thanks to Pete, Warren and Ben !! My new script after all their informations : put defaults read NSGlobalDomain into vxLangage get shell (vxLangage) get line lineOffset(AppleLocale,it) of it put false into vxFrançais ; if fr is in it then put true into vxFrançais get shell (defaults

Re: MAC OS X Lion, shell and language

2011-11-08 Thread Warren Samples
On 11/08/2011 12:39 PM, René Micout wrote: get shell (defaults read NSGlobalDomain) don't work... !!? Don't forget to wrap your shell command with ! Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to

Re: MAC OS X Lion, shell and language

2011-11-08 Thread René Micout
YES ! But why put defaults read NSGlobalDomain into vxLangage get shell (vxLangage) works ? I don't write put quote defaults read NSGlobalDomain quote into vxLangage ... Le 8 nov. 2011 à 19:39, René Micout a écrit : Thanks to Pete, Warren and Ben !! My new script after all their

Re: MAC OS X Lion, shell and language

2011-11-08 Thread Warren Samples
On 11/08/2011 01:17 PM, René Micout wrote: YES ! But why put defaults read NSGlobalDomain into vxLangage get shell (vxLangage) works ? I don't write put quote defaults read NSGlobalDomain quote into vxLangage ... Le 8 nov. 2011 à 19:39, René Micout a écrit : Thanks to Pete, Warren and Ben

Re: MAC OS X Lion, shell and language

2011-11-08 Thread Pete
Yes, I think that's better. On my system that returns AppleLocale = en_US_POSIX; Pete Molly's Revenge http://www.mollysrevenge.com On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 10:39 AM, René Micout rene.mic...@numericable.comwrote: Thanks to Pete, Warren and Ben !! My new script after all their informations

Re: MAC OS X Lion, shell and language

2011-11-08 Thread Warren Samples
On 11/08/2011 01:21 PM, Warren Samples wrote: vxLangauage is a variable not a string. oops! Didn't spell your variable correctly. That would never work either :D Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit

Re: MAC OS X Lion, shell and language

2011-11-08 Thread René Micout
Thanks Warren, I simplify my script : get shell (defaults read NSGlobalDomain) get line lineOffset(AppleLocale,it) of it put false into vxFrançais ; if fr is in it then put true into vxFrançais Le 8 nov. 2011 à 20:23, Warren Samples a écrit : On 11/08/2011 01:21 PM, Warren Samples

[OT] Sensible defaults for Mac OS X Lion

2011-09-08 Thread Andre Garzia
Folks, For those struggling with Lion, here are some sensible defaults that came to me while checking Hacker News... https://github.com/mathiasbynens/dotfiles/blob/master/.osx Cheers andre -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___

Re: Mac OS X Lion

2011-07-21 Thread Pete Haworth
I think the info I got meant they stopped selling it, not supporting it. It seemed strange to me also, that's why I was asking if anyone had run into this. I'm already on Snow Leopard so not a problem for me. Pete On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 2:45 PM, Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com wrote:

Re: Mac OS X Lion

2011-07-21 Thread Pete
I think the info I got meant they stopped selling it, not supporting it. It seemed strange to me also, that's why I was asking if anyone had run into this. I'm already on Snow Leopard so not a problem for me. Pete Molly's Revenge http://www.mollysrevenge.com On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 2:45 PM,

Re: Mac OS X Lion

2011-07-21 Thread Judy Perry
System 9 isn't easy to find, either... Judy On Thu, 21 Jul 2011, François Chaplais wrote: when I learned that Lion requires snow leopard (which I do not have on all of my machines) I cautiously ordered a copy of snow. Hardest to find is System 7.x for my powermac 8500

Re: Mac OS X Lion

2011-07-21 Thread Bob Sneidar
I have a copy if you need it. Actually, I still have 8.6. ;-) Bob On Jul 21, 2011, at 9:52 AM, Judy Perry wrote: System 9 isn't easy to find, either... Judy On Thu, 21 Jul 2011, François Chaplais wrote: when I learned that Lion requires snow leopard (which I do not have on all of

Re: Mac OS X Lion

2011-07-21 Thread Judy Perry
Actually, I do. I have a couple of original iMacs I need to revive... My office machine (a G3 blue white tower) might actually be running 8.x; can't tell as they got rid of the monitor :-( Judy On Thu, 21 Jul 2011, Bob Sneidar wrote: I have a copy if you need it. Actually, I still have

Re: Mac OS X Lion

2011-07-21 Thread Bob Sneidar
Let be burn you copies of what I have. Will .img files work for you? Bob On Jul 21, 2011, at 10:07 AM, Judy Perry wrote: Actually, I do. I have a couple of original iMacs I need to revive... My office machine (a G3 blue white tower) might actually be running 8.x; can't tell as they got

Re: Mac OS X Lion

2011-07-21 Thread Bob Sneidar
How about Tabby, code named Felix? Bob On Jul 21, 2011, at 11:11 AM, Andre Garzia wrote: Apple still selling Snow Leopard on their web store. It was EOL only on physical stores. Current macbook pros still come with Snow Leopard. Now that they shipped lion, which cat will be the next

Re: Mac OS X Lion

2011-07-21 Thread Pete Haworth
That explains it since the info I got about it being EOL was an email from a vendor. Pete On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 11:11 AM, Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.comwrote: Apple still selling Snow Leopard on their web store. It was EOL only on physical stores. Current macbook pros still come with

Re: Mac OS X Lion

2011-07-21 Thread Richmond Mathewson
Marsupial sabre-tooth? How about Tabby, code named Felix? Bob On Jul 21, 2011, at 11:11 AM, Andre Garzia wrote: Apple still selling Snow Leopard on their web store. It was EOL only on physical stores. Current macbook pros still come with Snow Leopard. Now that they shipped lion, which cat

Re: Mac OS X Lion

2011-07-21 Thread Warren Samples
On Thursday, July 21, 2011 01:11:17 PM Andre Garzia wrote: I vote for Mac OS X 10.8 Megalomaniac Garfield Werecat? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your

Re: Mac OS X Lion

2011-07-21 Thread Björnke von Gierke
I guess it's a question of ROI much more then off a decision on a concise ruleset about what and what not to support. So the basic native controls on the other hand have always been supported, even though sometimes they where broken for short times when a new OS was freshly released. More..

Mac OS X Lion

2011-07-20 Thread René Micout
Hello Mac addict(s) ! First impression after installing Mac OS X Lion on my Macintosh... LiveCode 4.6.3 run well... New buttons, new radio buttons... A little problem: the scroll bar have the two aspect, the last one (borders) ans the new one (grey bar moving)... Tomorrow morning a more complete

Re: Mac OS X Lion

2011-07-20 Thread Klaus on-rev
Bonsoir René, Am 20.07.2011 um 19:34 schrieb René Micout: Hello Mac addict(s) ! First impression after installing Mac OS X Lion on my Macintosh... LiveCode 4.6.3 run well... New buttons, new radio buttons... A little problem: the scroll bar have the two aspect, the last one (borders) ans

Re: Mac OS X Lion

2011-07-20 Thread Andre Garzia
I don't like lion or the new scrollbars... :-( will stay with snow leopard for a while :-) On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Klaus on-rev kl...@major.on-rev.comwrote: Bonsoir René, Am 20.07.2011 um 19:34 schrieb René Micout: Hello Mac addict(s) ! First impression after installing Mac OS

Re: Mac OS X Lion

2011-07-20 Thread Richard Gaskin
Andre wrote: I don't like lion or the new scrollbars... :-( For better or worse, it seems those scrollbars are the wave of the future: http://livecodejournal.com/blog.irv?pid=1307545265.586975 What concerns me more about Lion is how auto-save is supposed to work with our apps --

Re: Mac OS X Lion

2011-07-20 Thread Warren Samples
On Wednesday, July 20, 2011 01:11:55 PM Richard Gaskin wrote: For better or worse, it seems those scrollbars are the wave of the future: Stevie was really enthuastic about his drawers, too. For a while. Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list

Re: Mac OS X Lion

2011-07-20 Thread Richmond Mathewson
Not wishing to appear catty or anything . . . But, surely, from the point of view of the average RunRev/Livecode developer unless one has a desperate urge to leverage any new capabilities in 'Lion' it is just business as usual? ___ use-livecode

Mac OS X Lion

2011-07-20 Thread Richmond Mathewson
http://www.apple.com/macosx/whats-new/ well; I don't know what to say, but on the basis of that webpage there seems to be nothing much more than eye-candy. The only thing that seems vaguely new is the set of finger-twiddles one can perform on one's trackpad: just thinking about them makes me

Re: Mac OS X Lion

2011-07-20 Thread Andre Garzia
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 3:30 PM, Warren Samples war...@warrensweb.uswrote: On Wednesday, July 20, 2011 01:11:55 PM Richard Gaskin wrote: For better or worse, it seems those scrollbars are the wave of the future: Stevie was really enthuastic about his drawers, too. For a while. I like

Re: Mac OS X Lion

2011-07-20 Thread Andre Garzia
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 3:11 PM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.comwrote: Andre wrote: I don't like lion or the new scrollbars... :-( For better or worse, it seems those scrollbars are the wave of the future:

Re: Mac OS X Lion

2011-07-20 Thread Bob Sneidar
You mean besides the new pricing which is WAAAY more affordable than prior version? Or besides the new Remote Access that allows me to have a session which does not disturb the current local session? Or the fact that Remote Access Server is no longer $500 unlimited, but somewhere in the area of

Re: Mac OS X Lion

2011-07-20 Thread Richmond Mathewson
On 07/20/2011 10:41 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: You mean besides the new pricing which is WAAAY more affordable than prior version? Or besides the new Remote Access that allows me to have a session which does not disturb the current local session? Or the fact that Remote Access Server is no longer

Re: Mac OS X Lion

2011-07-20 Thread Andre Garzia
The last Lion DP was pretty bad on my machine. I am going to wait for a long time... On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 4:41 PM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote: You mean besides the new pricing which is WAAAY more affordable than prior version? Or besides the new Remote Access that allows me to have a

Re: Mac OS X Lion

2011-07-20 Thread Bob Sneidar
It's Drawer Implementation and Maintenance that always had me stumped. Where should I install them? Should they always be implemented? There are different schools of thought on the subject. I believe in European circles, some don't see the need for drawers at all. I'm not sure I would go that

Re: Mac OS X Lion

2011-07-20 Thread Richmond Mathewson
On 07/20/2011 10:57 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: It's Drawer Implementation and Maintenance that always had me stumped. Where should I install them? Should they always be implemented? There are different schools of thought on the subject. I believe in European circles, That is because drawers are

Re: Mac OS X Lion

2011-07-20 Thread Pete
There's been recent discussion of just how many OSX controls are not natively available in LC and Lion just seems to add to that list. Will LC ever catch up? Pete Molly's Revenge http://www.mollysrevenge.com On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 12:38 PM, Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.comwrote: On Wed,

Re: Mac OS X Lion

2011-07-20 Thread Andre Garzia
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 5:13 PM, Pete p...@mollysrevenge.com wrote: There's been recent discussion of just how many OSX controls are not natively available in LC and Lion just seems to add to that list. Will LC ever catch up? LC is Carbon and has a lot of emulated stuff to make is

Re: Mac OS X Lion

2011-07-20 Thread Pete
I agree and look forward seeing the results of the work that some LC developers are doing on making the missing controls available. Pete Molly's Revenge http://www.mollysrevenge.com On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 1:19 PM, Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 5:13 PM,

Re: Mac OS X Lion

2011-07-20 Thread Pete
I was just told the following about Lion: 1) It will only install correctly if you are on the very latest version of Snow Leopard (10.6.8) 2) Apple have discontinued Snow Leopard If that is true and you don't already have Snow Leopard installed, seems like you're screwed. Can anyone confirm

Re: Mac OS X Lion

2011-07-20 Thread Andre Garzia
Apple would not discontinue snow leopard, they support OSes for a long time... On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 6:31 PM, Pete p...@mollysrevenge.com wrote: I was just told the following about Lion: 1) It will only install correctly if you are on the very latest version of Snow Leopard (10.6.8) 2)

Re: Mac OS X Lion

2011-07-20 Thread François Chaplais
Le 20 juil. 2011 à 23:45, Andre Garzia a écrit : Apple would not discontinue snow leopard, they support OSes for a long time... when I learned that Lion requires snow leopard (which I do not have on all of my machines) I cautiously ordered a copy of snow. Hardest to find is System 7.x for

Re: Mac OS X Lion

2011-07-20 Thread Gerry Orkin
When I try to test an iOS standalone I get an error message: Unknow deployment platform. Any ideas? Gerry ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription

Re: Mac OS X Lion

2011-07-20 Thread Pete Haworth
I think the info I got meant they stopped selling it, not supporting it. It seemed strange to me also, that's why I was asking if anyone had run into this. I'm already on Snow Leopard so not a problem for me. Pete On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 2:45 PM, Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com wrote:

Re: Mac OS X Lion

2011-07-20 Thread Bill Vlahos
Richard, I believe auto-save only works on applications that specifically support the new API. Bill Vlahos Sent from my iPhone On Jul 20, 2011, at 11:11 AM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote: Andre wrote: I don't like lion or the new scrollbars... :-( For better or

Re: Mac OS X Lion

2011-07-20 Thread Jerry J
I just checked the Apple Store (online) and Snow Leopard is still for sale there. I think they mean that new computers will not ship with Snow Leopard any longer. The Snow Leopard in the store is an upgrade from Leopard, which is the way it has always been unless you bought the more expensive

Re: Mac OS X Lion

2011-07-20 Thread Shao Sean
There's been recent discussion of just how many OSX controls are not natively available in LC and Lion just seems to add to that list. Will LC ever catch up? Probably not.. Seems they will not touch anything that is not cross platform.. ___