Non_Open Source materials being embedded in OS stacks/standalones.

2013-04-13 Thread Richmond
I have a picture which is copyrighted, I have a license from the copyright owner to use this picture and release it in a standalone. However, I do not have permission to pass on permission for other people to pass on the picture; they have to revert to the copyright holder to get s/his permissio

Re: Non_Open Source materials being embedded in OS stacks/standalones.

2013-04-13 Thread Monte Goulding
On 13/04/2013, at 6:01 PM, Richmond wrote: > > I assume that I am not allowed to run off a standalone from LC OSS > containing that picture. Right, you would need to only use stuff that's licensed with a GPL compatible license. -- Monte Goulding M E R Goulding - software development service

Re: Non_Open Source materials being embedded in OS stacks/standalones.

2013-04-13 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 1:01 AM, Richmond wrote: > > I have a picture which is copyrighted, I have a license from the copyright > owner > to use this picture and release it in a standalone. > > However, I do not have permission to pass on permission for other people > to pass on the picture; they

Re: Non_Open Source materials being embedded in OS stacks/standalones.

2013-04-13 Thread Richmond
On 04/13/2013 08:17 PM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 1:01 AM, Richmond wrote: I have a picture which is copyrighted, I have a license from the copyright owner to use this picture and release it in a standalone. However, I do not have permission to pass on permission for other peo

Re: Non_Open Source materials being embedded in OS stacks/standalones.

2013-04-13 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 10:19 AM, Richmond wrote: > That is going to be an awful lot of fun for an awful lot of people tracking > down things such > as clip-art copyright restrictions. But that' really no different than it is right now: you just can't distribute something that you don't have ari

Re: Non_Open Source materials being embedded in OS stacks/standalones.

2013-04-13 Thread Richmond
On 04/13/2013 08:21 PM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 10:19 AM, Richmond wrote: That is going to be an awful lot of fun for an awful lot of people tracking down things such as clip-art copyright restrictions. But that' really no different than it is right now: you just can't dist

Re: Non_Open Source materials being embedded in OS stacks/standalones.

2013-04-13 Thread stephen barncard
On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 10:33 AM, Richmond wrote: > https://picasaweb.google.com/**lh/photo/**g9YCDCoXTux3elqSvUr3TdMTjNZETY** > myPJy0liipFm0 you might be not considering that truly copyrighted images are waterma

Re: Non_Open Source materials being embedded in OS stacks/standalones.

2013-04-13 Thread Richmond
On 04/13/2013 08:39 PM, stephen barncard wrote: On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 10:33 AM, Richmond wrote: https://picasaweb.google.com/**lh/photo/**g9YCDCoXTux3elqSvUr3TdMTjNZETY** myPJy0liipFm0 you might be not consid

Re: Non_Open Source materials being embedded in OS stacks/standalones.

2013-04-13 Thread Scott Rossi
Not sure what the point of your email is, but sound files are often mixed with a looping track of voice speaking the company name, or protected with white noise or a simple beat. Movie clips are watermarked with a translucent image, same as images. Maybe not entirely off topic, these guys are try

Re: Non_Open Source materials being embedded in OS stacks/standalones.

2013-04-13 Thread stephen barncard
Photoshop has a plugin and a paid service to apply invisible watermarks to images. They've had this for over 20 years. As most serious photographers have photoshop, I would assume it's been used a lot over the years, even pre-internet. On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 10:46 AM, Richmond wrote: > On 04/13

Re: Non_Open Source materials being embedded in OS stacks/standalones.

2013-04-13 Thread Marian Petrides, M.D.
Good point. And furthermore, even if an image is not watermarked, it may still be copyrighted. I'm no lawyer, but it is my understanding that in the US there is an implied copyright applied to anything that is not explicitly put into the public domain--which is why I created the music backgroun

Re: Non_Open Source materials being embedded in OS stacks/standalones.

2013-04-13 Thread Richmond
On 04/13/2013 09:25 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: Not sure what the point of your email is, The point of my e-mail is that, I suspect, for an awful lot of people who download LC OSS and start using it, this will be their first experinece with Open Source Software, and they may be completely unaware

Re: Non_Open Source materials being embedded in OS stacks/standalones.

2013-04-13 Thread Richmond
On 04/13/2013 09:29 PM, stephen barncard wrote: Photoshop has a plugin and a paid service to apply invisible watermarks to images. They've had this for over 20 years. As most serious photographers have photoshop, I would assume it's been used a lot over the years, even pre-internet. http://grap

RE: Non_Open Source materials being embedded in OS stacks/standalones.

2013-04-13 Thread Lynn Fredricks
> > I have a picture which is copyrighted, I have a license from the > > copyright owner to use this picture and release it in a standalone. > > > > However, I do not have permission to pass on permission for other > > people to pass on the picture; they have to revert to the copyright > > holde

Re: Non_Open Source materials being embedded in OS stacks/standalones.

2013-04-13 Thread Mark Wieder
Richmond- Saturday, April 13, 2013, 11:50:39 AM, you wrote: > The point of my e-mail is that, I suspect, for an awful lot of people > who download LC OSS and start using it, this will be their first > experinece with Open Source Software, I'm not entirely sure that's true. > and they may be co

Re: Non_Open Source materials being embedded in OS stacks/standalones.

2013-04-13 Thread Roger Eller
And there's digital watermarking via steganography. "As a simple example, a sender might start with an innocuous image file and adjust the color of every 100th pixel to correspond to a letter in the alphabet, a change so subtle that someone not specifically looking for it is unlikely to notice it.

Re: Non_Open Source materials being embedded in OS stacks/standalones.

2013-04-13 Thread stephen barncard
that is not the same thing. The PS plugin uses another technique to invisibly imbed the code in the photo. Gimp and others use a graphic overlay, which degrades / cheapens / uglifies the image. On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 11:52 AM, Richmond wrote: > On 04/13/2013 09:29 PM, stephen barncard wrote:

Re: Non_Open Source materials being embedded in OS stacks/standalones.

2013-04-13 Thread Richmond
On 04/13/2013 11:43 PM, stephen barncard wrote: that is not the same thing. The PS plugin uses another technique to invisibly imbed the code in the photo. Gimp and others use a graphic overlay, which degrades / cheapens / uglifies the image. You are quite right. But, how, if the code is in

Re: Non_Open Source materials being embedded in OS stacks/standalones.

2013-04-13 Thread Mark Wilcox
LiveCode Sent: Saturday, 13 April 2013, 21:53 Subject: Re: Non_Open Source materials being embedded in OS stacks/standalones. On 04/13/2013 11:43 PM, stephen barncard wrote: > that is not the same thing.  The PS plugin uses another technique to > invisibly imbed the code in the photo. &g