Roger Eller wrote:
My point is, there are wanna-be-programmers out there who don't even know
they CAN BE programmers because they think it's too difficult to learn.
You have to get the word out beyond this list.
Indeed, that's exactly what so many of us are doing.
I'm helping to organize three
Picture this in your minds eye. An infomercial on TV like we used to see;
a high-energy "Juice-Man" type, doing a demo for the "unwashed-masses".
EVERYONE CAN CODE, the crazy caterpillar-browed man says, and goes on to
show some easy yet beneficial beginners apps. A website address, a
toll-free n
Erik Beugelaar wrote:
> The suggestion of Alex is a reasonable option for this iOS only
> deploy problem in my opinion.
> As long as Apple's Apps Store's Terms of Service (ToS) clashes with
> the GPL a temporary solution could be a Hosted iOS Builder service.
> This can be a subscription model ($
On 2.05.2016 16:44, John Dixon wrote:
Richmond... my comment was not directed at you...
I didn't think it was: I just couldn't resist having a laugh re the
"unwashed masses" - lovely turn of phrase!
Richmond.
Subject: Re: Standalones on el Capitan?
To: use-livec
What happens if I splash out 999 and then LC goes belly up?
Does my purchase work forever producing commercial apps or does it revert to
GPL?
All the best
Terry
> On 2 May 2016, at 14:34, RM wrote:
>
> Nothing is going to endear me except, possibly, the chance to BUY a version
> of Livecod
Richmond... my comment was not directed at you...
> Subject: Re: Standalones on el Capitan?
> To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
> From: richmondmathew...@gmail.com
> Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 16:34:43 +0300
>
>
>
> On 2.05.2016 15:46, John Dixon wrote:
> >
>
On 2.05.2016 15:46, John Dixon wrote:
Subject: Re: Standalones on el Capitan?
To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
From: peter.br...@livecode.com
Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 09:40:32 +0100
On 02/05/2016 09:36, RM wrote:
My spending has now stopped, and will not start again as I simply do not
have
On 2.05.2016 11:40, Peter TB Brett wrote:
On 02/05/2016 09:36, RM wrote:
My spending has now stopped, and will not start again as I simply do not
have $999 for any software whatsoever.
Maybe you should have purchased a subscription during one of the
_many_ "$299/year forever" offers that Li
> Subject: Re: Standalones on el Capitan?
> To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
> From: peter.br...@livecode.com
> Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 09:40:32 +0100
>
> On 02/05/2016 09:36, RM wrote:
> > My spending has now stopped, and will not start again as I simply do not
> &
Must you always take such a snippy tone against your lowly subclass
customer base. If LC actually cared about hobbyist or education level
customers, that deal would still stand. Perhaps not publicly, but an
off-list private email surely could be arranged.
On May 2, 2016 4:40 AM, "Peter TB Brett"
On 02/05/2016 09:36, RM wrote:
My spending has now stopped, and will not start again as I simply do not
have $999 for any software whatsoever.
Maybe you should have purchased a subscription during one of the _many_
"$299/year forever" offers that LiveCode ran last year, then.
Blast, I said I wouldn't write any more: but this one really "takes the
biscuit".
I don't think this is solely Apple's or Livecode's problem, I think it
is a general tendency where "programming" (and there is a contentious word)
has polarised into 2 camps:
1. The "Hard Chaps" (at the risk of
Of
Monte Goulding
Sent: maandag 2 mei 2016 07:14
To: How to use LiveCode
Subject: Re: Standalones on el Capitan?
> On 2 May 2016, at 9:23 AM, Alex Tweedly wrote:
>
> For example, would it be possible to create a version of that allows building
> IOS standalones under commercial lic
> On 2 May 2016, at 9:23 AM, Alex Tweedly wrote:
>
> For example, would it be possible to create a version of that allows building
> IOS standalones under commercial license, but nothing else. Then such a User
> could build IOS standalones (non-GPL), other standalones (under GPL), they
> coul
From 2013…
http://www.slideshare.net/techahead/html5-vs-native-app-battle-infographics
But still interesting. The “code once run anywhere” vs “Native dev” is the
underlying driving force behind HMTL5 app dev.
So if you can sell LiveCode by marketing that same line… you can target an
entire
Any market researchers out there who could actually begin to answer this?
Bill
William Prothero
http://ed.earthednet.org
> On May 1, 2016, at 4:23 PM, Alex Tweedly wrote:
>
> No, it's not an Apple problem - they're not losing any money over it, and
> they're certainly not losing any sleep ove
No, it's not an Apple problem - they're not losing any money over it,
and they're certainly not losing any sleep over it.
I think it's a Livecode Ltd problem (for the reasons described in the
earlier post), though it is partly caused by Apple.
Yeah. it would be great if Livecode Ltd could use
> On 2 May 2016, at 8:46 AM, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami
> wrote:
>
> Forgive me, Monte.. But I think this is an extremely “blinkered” regressive
> point of view that seriously limits the possible future user base. The
> “middle ground” is not small at all. The digital revolution is *exploding
On 4/30/16, 11:41 PM, "use-livecode on behalf of Monte Goulding"
wrote:
>In the end you are either making or intending to make money with the platform
>so $1-2k isn't a deal breaker or you aren't making money so GPL isn't a deal
>breaker. The middle ground is therefore small and from a cost-b
My point is only made from the view of the so called "Hobbyist brigade" and
the "Poor boys" who have dreams to buy a house maybe later from the sales
;-)
Btw I have nothing against paying for a licence. I own a team licence of
Appcelerator Studio which costs me $3.250/year so that is not my point.
Hmm... If you believe in your idea and business plan then make the investment
just like if you believe the property market will go up then buy a house.
There's risk in getting out of bed in the morning but it doesn't outweigh the
benefits ;-)
Sent from my iPhone
> On 1 May 2016, at 10:11 PM, E
I agree but if you have a brilliant idea for an iOS app and you believe it
will generate money in future you need audiance. And for iOS the only
common way is the AppStore to present your app to buy or offer it as free
download to turn it later if succesfull in a payed version ot subscription
model
I very much doubt the subscription model will go away any time soon. It may be
constructive to determine a price point that hobby developers requiring
proprietary distribution might be prepared to pay but I think the issue you
will bump into is that's a small market so the price point would need
Original Message-
From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf
Of RM
Sent: zondag 1 mei 2016 09:41
To: How to use LiveCode
Subject: Re: Standalones on el Capitan?
Please do not mention my roof: I was up there after a few really violent
April showers messing around wi
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Regards,
Erik
Sent from solidit
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From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf
Of RM
Sent: zondag 1 mei 2016 09:41
To: How to use LiveCode
Subject: Re: Stand
Please do not mention my roof: I was up there after a few really violent
April showers messing around with a blow torch
on the tar-paper - and I'm scared of heights.
Nobody is going to spin me the vast amount required to RENT Livecode
Commercial.
AND I really DON'T want to RENT anything: I wa
On 1.05.2016 00:07, Paul Dupuis wrote:
On 4/30/2016 4:48 PM, RM wrote:
I have just been informed that an end-user is unable to get the Intel
Mac build of my Devawriter Pro
running on el Capitan (Mac OS 10.11).
Currently Devawriter Pro is developed using Livecode 4.5.
I will try this out on m
As Richard and Paul have said plus, you've got more to worry about than
just converting numToChar to numToCodePoint as per your other post.
Just minutes ago I received a quote of the day email from my uncle that
said:
Fix the roof whilst the sun is shining.
So to rephrase Richard and Paul: 4.5's
On 4/30/2016 4:48 PM, RM wrote:
> I have just been informed that an end-user is unable to get the Intel
> Mac build of my Devawriter Pro
> running on el Capitan (Mac OS 10.11).
>
> Currently Devawriter Pro is developed using Livecode 4.5.
>
> I will try this out on my wife's el Capitan MacBook tomo
RM wrote:
> I have just been informed that an end-user is unable to get the Intel
> Mac build of my Devawriter Pro
> running on el Capitan (Mac OS 10.11).
>
> Currently Devawriter Pro is developed using Livecode 4.5.
4.5 is like a hundred deprecated APIs ago.
6.x began the road to Cocoa. Earli
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