Re: The Bearer Of Bad News

2014-10-27 Thread Kay C Lan
On Sun, Oct 26, 2014 at 8:28 AM, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net wrote: Well, that's special. While I have the Untitled backup drive removed from Spotlight, Sorry for taking a while to answer this, but yesterday I didn't have my TM HD available so I couldn't be sure. What do you mean by

Re: The Bearer Of Bad News

2014-10-25 Thread Colin Holgate
I have in the past disliked Time Machine. In those days I had a regular hard drive, and it seemed sometimes that it would take the full hour to backup, meaning that it was backing up continuously, and noticeably affecting the responsiveness of the system while it was doing that. Now I use SSD

Re: The Bearer Of Bad News

2014-10-25 Thread Peter Haworth
I use Time machine for local backups and all my LC dev files are on Google Drive so I feel pretty comfortable with recovering any stack files I need. There's another level of recovery I made available in lcStackBrowser. It's not made for backups per se, more in the way of keeping temporary

Re: The Bearer Of Bad News

2014-10-25 Thread Mark Wieder
Colin- Saturday, October 25, 2014, 6:11:57 AM, you wrote: I have in the past disliked Time Machine. In those days I had a regular hard drive, and it seemed sometimes that it would take the full hour to backup, meaning that it was backing up continuously, and noticeably affecting the

Re: The Bearer Of Bad News

2014-10-25 Thread Richard Gaskin
Peter Haworth wrote: I use Time machine for local backups and all my LC dev files are on Google Drive so I feel pretty comfortable with recovering any stack files I need. That redundancy is probably a good idea. Backup services fail, media fails, all sorts of things can happen. Here I

Re: The Bearer Of Bad News

2014-10-25 Thread Colin Holgate
See if this article helps with the time it takes to do TM backups: http://mactips.dwhoard.com/mactips/other-applications/time-machine-slow http://mactips.dwhoard.com/mactips/other-applications/time-machine-slow ___ use-livecode mailing list

Re: The Bearer Of Bad News

2014-10-25 Thread Mark Wieder
Andrew- Friday, October 24, 2014, 10:18:24 PM, you wrote: Dropbox and backup suggestions aside, I can't help but feel 7.0 was not ready for primetime. My experience has been giant standalones to cater to features I don't use, and lackluster performance. I hear what you're saying, and I'm not

Re: The Bearer Of Bad News

2014-10-25 Thread Richard Gaskin
Mark Wieder wrote: Mark Wieder I'm thinking of switching over to Dolly Drive (for local storage only, not cloud), so I'd welcome any comments yea or nay that anyone has on that. Have you considered OwnCloud? Space limited only by your hard drive budget, total control, native sync clients

Re: The Bearer Of Bad News

2014-10-25 Thread Mark Wieder
Colin- Saturday, October 25, 2014, 10:52:21 AM, you wrote: See if this article helps with the time it takes to do TM backups: Thanks. I had high hopes for that, but unfortunately that's not what I see. I do see things like 10:00:36 AM com.apple.backupd Starting standard backup 10:00:37 AM

Re: The Bearer Of Bad News

2014-10-25 Thread Colin Holgate
Part of that article is to do with Spotlight. Are you sure you don’t have Spotlight set up to index the backup drive? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your

Re: The Bearer Of Bad News

2014-10-25 Thread Mark Wieder
Richard- Saturday, October 25, 2014, 10:59:09 AM, you wrote: Have you considered OwnCloud? Hmmm... thanks for the lead. No, I hadn't. Based on the name I figured they were just another cloud storage thing. And for a number of obvious and non-obvious reasons I have no intention of throwing my

Re: The Bearer Of Bad News

2014-10-25 Thread Mark Wieder
Colin- Saturday, October 25, 2014, 11:27:39 AM, you wrote: Part of that article is to do with Spotlight. Are you sure you don’t have Spotlight set up to index the backup drive? Well, that's special. While I have the Untitled backup drive removed from Spotlight, apparently Spotlight still has

Re: The Bearer Of Bad News

2014-10-25 Thread Richard Gaskin
Mark Wieder wrote: Richard- Saturday, October 25, 2014, 10:59:09 AM, you wrote: Have you considered OwnCloud? Hmmm... thanks for the lead. No, I hadn't. Based on the name I figured they were just another cloud storage thing. And for a number of obvious and non-obvious reasons I have no

Re: The Bearer Of Bad News

2014-10-24 Thread Bob Sneidar
I never test the RC versions or the Dev releases. Since I do not produce commercial apps, I don’t have the need to test for compatibility. There were other things going wrong before that. The app did not run the way it should. I have a database setup card I go to that is designed to make a

Re: The Bearer Of Bad News

2014-10-24 Thread Bob Sneidar
I figured you might want a copy so I saved it. Do you also need the sqlYoga library I use? I suppose you can just use the public release. I will need to send along a copy of the sqLite database I use with it. The whole app depends on the database of course. Bob S On Oct 23, 2014, at 16:49

Re: The Bearer Of Bad News

2014-10-24 Thread Bob Sneidar
Very good suggestion. I do have a time machine backup, but it is not in the office, it is at home so I can lose a days worth of changes that way. I will look into that. Bob S On Oct 23, 2014, at 17:05 , Pi Digital s...@pidigital.co.uk wrote: Hi Bob I would like to recommend to you

Re: The Bearer Of Bad News

2014-10-24 Thread Trevor DeVore
On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 10:33 AM, Bob Sneidar bobsnei...@iotecdigital.com wrote: ... but I *am* using sqlYoga and I am not sure if I need to be using a 7.0 converted version of that library. SQL Yoga should behave well with 7.0 gm-1. In prior versions of 7.0 there were some backwards

Re: The Bearer Of Bad News

2014-10-24 Thread Colin Holgate
Solutions like dropbox are good, but would either need you to manually back things up, or maybe an Automator script to copy important files over. With Time Machine I have a less than one hour old backup of any file I might need, not just the ones that I think I will need, or remembered to copy

Re: The Bearer Of Bad News

2014-10-24 Thread Mark Schonewille
I keep all my projects on Time Machine, but current projects are also on Dropbox, which I often use to share work with customers. File that are in Dropbox are automatically updated when you change them. There is no need to update them manually. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille

Re: The Bearer Of Bad News

2014-10-24 Thread Richard Gaskin
Bob Sneidar wrote: I never test the RC versions or the Dev releases. Since I do not produce commercial apps, I don’t have the need to test for compatibility. That's true for those versions you intend to never use. :) LC is very flexible, and we all do different things with it, so if we want

Re: The Bearer Of Bad News

2014-10-24 Thread Bob Sneidar
After V7 upgrade, but before the crash. Bob S On Oct 24, 2014, at 08:52 , Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.commailto:ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote: When you say other things going wrong before that, do you mean before the crash or before v7? -- Richard Gaskin

Re: The Bearer Of Bad News

2014-10-24 Thread Bob Sneidar
Truth is, I develop side projects. It’s never actually been my job description, although my employers have been happy to use what I produce! :-) What I develop is primarily for my own use and convenience. I wish I were more productive in this regard, but after all I have a full time job, during

Re: The Bearer Of Bad News

2014-10-24 Thread Richard Gaskin
Bob Sneidar wrote: Testing developer releases and release candidates is not high on my priority, but given my recent experience, maybe it should be. :-) For me it's made the work more fun. With any final release, at the moment it's done it's effectively dead, a static thing that no longer

Re: The Bearer Of Bad News

2014-10-24 Thread Mark Wieder
Colin- Friday, October 24, 2014, 8:01:56 AM, you wrote: Solutions like dropbox are good, but would either need you to manually back things up, or maybe an Automator script to copy important files over. Au contraire. Dropbox keeps old versions for up to 30 days automatically. I don't know the

Re: The Bearer Of Bad News

2014-10-24 Thread Colin Holgate
I understand how the folder synching works, but in my case I have a 750 GB SSD that may well have many gigabytes of stuff that I don’t want to lose. Having that backed up to an external 2TB drive every hour gives me some security. On Oct 24, 2014, at 10:11 PM, Mark Wieder

Re: The Bearer Of Bad News

2014-10-24 Thread Mark Wieder
Colin- Friday, October 24, 2014, 7:42:19 PM, you wrote: I understand how the folder synching works, but in my case I have a 750 GB SSD that may well have many gigabytes of stuff that I don’t want to lose. Having that backed up to an external 2TB drive every hour gives me some security. Um.

Re: The Bearer Of Bad News

2014-10-24 Thread Andrew Kluthe
Dropbox and backup suggestions aside, I can't help but feel 7.0 was not ready for primetime. My experience has been giant standalones to cater to features I don't use, and lackluster performance. I know others will disagree but I devoted the last four to five years to livecode and come out

Re: The Bearer Of Bad News

2014-10-23 Thread Colin Holgate
I don’t suppose you use a Mac with Time Machine running do you? If you are you can retrieve a copy from an hour ago. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription

Re: The Bearer Of Bad News

2014-10-23 Thread Bob Sneidar
NVM I discovered there is a file of the same name ending in a tilde (~) which is a backup of the corrupted file. I was able to open it in 7.0 and save in the last legacy format. Unsure what happened initially, but I will be keeping a copy of the old stack intact for a while before migrating to

Re: The Bearer Of Bad News

2014-10-23 Thread Richard Gaskin
Bob Sneidar wrote: Well I upgraded to version 7.0.0. I opened a stack I have been working on, but it started misbehaving. I just had it open and running in version 6.6.4. In the process of trying to see where things were going wrong, version 7.0.0 unexpectedly quit. How did this behavior in

Re: The Bearer Of Bad News

2014-10-23 Thread Benjamin Beaumont
Hi Bob. I'm sorry you experienced in issue. We've not had any reports of stack corruptions in 7 for some months. We'd be very keen to get a copy of the corrupted stack and the working format to see if we can work out what happened. If you'd be happy to share the stack, please sent it privately to

Re: The Bearer Of Bad News

2014-10-23 Thread Pi Digital
Hi Bob I would like to recommend to you using Dropbox and putting your stacks into its folders. This has saved me no end of times as it holds many previous versions of your files as backups. I now have a premium subscription and get infinite version backups and remembers even if I change file

RE: The Bearer Of Bad News

2014-10-23 Thread Éric Miclo
Hello, Sorry Ben, but you’re wrong. Take a look at bug #13554 (stack corruption). It has been marked as a duplicate of bug #13593 (gradient disappearing - don’t know why a stack corruption is a duplicate of this one). And what’s really funny: neither the first or the second one has been fixed