Re: I Hate the New Color Picker

On 06/12/14 05:21, Roger Guay wrote: I’m sure the new color picker is totally Apple’s (Yosemite) fault, but I hate it? It’s ugly and not as functional as the old one. Is there anything I can do about it, like go back to the old one? TIA, Roger There seems to be quite a lot to hate about Yos

Re: I Hate the New Color Picker

On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 1:43 AM, Richmond wrote: > I wonder what Apple thought they were doing. > there's a UI department at apple that has to change SOMETHING to prove their worth. *--* *Stephen Barncard - San Francisco Ca. USA - Deeds Not Words* ___

Re: I Hate the New Color Picker

Richmond, Do I recall that you had converted an old MetaCard Color picker for LC about a year ago? If so, is it still available? Thanks! Roger > On Dec 6, 2014, at 1:43 AM, Richmond wrote: > > On 06/12/14 05:21, Roger Guay wrote: >> I’m sure the new color picker is totally Apple’s (Yosemite)

Re: I Hate the New Color Picker

On 06/12/14 22:12, Roger Guay wrote: Richmond, Do I recall that you had converted an old MetaCard Color picker for LC about a year ago? If so, is it still available? Thanks! Roger That's true: but I haven't a clue where it has gone. Possibly (???) I could just suck it out of the Metacard

Re: I Hate the New Color Picker

No hurry, and no worries if you don’t. I can always use the ugly one. Thanks! > On Dec 6, 2014, at 12:19 PM, Richmond wrote: > > On 06/12/14 22:12, Roger Guay wrote: >> Richmond, >> >> Do I recall that you had converted an old MetaCard Color picker for LC about >> a year ago? If so, is it

Re: I Hate the New Color Picker

On 06/12/14 22:12, Roger Guay wrote: Richmond, Do I recall that you had converted an old MetaCard Color picker for LC about a year ago? If so, is it still available? Thanks! Roger The file 'CP.zip' here: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ja47l87gg87sn0q/AAAIj99kEQVOb8ev3jz8C5ORa?dl=0 Best, Ric

Re: I Hate the New Color Picker

Got it. Thanks very much! Cheers, Roger > On Dec 6, 2014, at 12:30 PM, Richmond wrote: > > On 06/12/14 22:12, Roger Guay wrote: >> Richmond, >> >> Do I recall that you had converted an old MetaCard Color picker for LC about >> a year ago? If so, is it still available? >> >> Thanks! >> Roger

Re: I Hate the New Color Picker

How much functionality do you want in a color picker? If you just want to allow a user to pick from a fixed set of colours, it’s easy to grow your own - cross-platform too. But of course that’s just a small subset of an OS’s picker. Graham > On 6 Dec 2014, at 03:21, Roger Guay wrote: > > I’m s

Re: I Hate the New Color Picker

On 07/12/14 12:44, Graham Samuel wrote: How much functionality do you want in a color picker? If you just want to allow a user to pick from a fixed set of colours, it’s easy to grow your own - cross-platform too. But of course that’s just a small subset of an OS’s picker. Graham What I do n

Re: I Hate the New Color Picker

Just uploaded the color picker from the Mac Classic version of Runtime Revolution 2.0 to https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ja47l87gg87s ... C5ORa?dl=0 RCC.zip As far as I can see it is identical to the one from Metacard 2.5

Re: I Hate the New Color Picker

On 07/12/14 12:44, Graham Samuel wrote: How much functionality do you want in a color picker? If you just want to allow a user to pick from a fixed set of colours, it’s easy to grow your own - cross-platform too. But of course that’s just a small subset of an OS’s picker. The color chooser fr

Re: I Hate the New Color Picker

Perhaps so our apps would look native on every platform. The color picker is used for more than just development. On December 7, 2014 5:09:31 AM CST, Richmond wrote >> > >What I do not understand is why RunRev decided that Livecode should >leverage >an operating system's built-in colour picker

Re: I Hate the New Color Picker

On 07/12/14 18:31, J. Landman Gay wrote: Perhaps so our apps would look native on every platform. The color picker is used for more than just development. BUT, it would have been quite possible to have a development color picker that was uniform across all platforms, and a way of leveraging t

Re: I Hate the New Color Picker

How does the color picker look different to you? I'm on Yosemite and it looks the same as I remember: color picker choices across the top: color wheel (default), color sliders, etc.; then the color wheel itself below that; then the saturation slider below that; then the actual color selected and th

Re: I Hate the New Color Picker

Have a look at this: http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=22288 Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runr

Re: I Hate the New Color Picker

The only differences I see from the color wheel in Snow Leopard is that the selected color choice is a small square at the bottom in Yosemite with an eye dropper and it's a bar across the top in Snow Leopard with a magnifying glass. The Saturation slider is on the bottom in Yosemite and down the ri

Re: I Hate the New Color Picker

On 12/7/2014, 12:18 PM, Richmond wrote: BUT, it would have been quite possible to have a development color picker that was uniform across all platforms, and a way of leveraging the operating system's color picker in standalones . . . therefore having the best of both worlds. You can do that you

Re: I Hate the New Color Picker

On 08/12/14 00:20, Richmond wrote: Feel free to download THIS: http://forums.livecode.com/download/file.php?id=4597 and you will suddenly love Livecode's built-in color picker. Richmond. That download URL seems problematic. Better go to the message and download from there: http://forums.liv

Re: I Hate the New Color Picker

You’re right of course, I was just overreacting to the ugliness of it. One thing I do miss is multiple lines of color patches where I kept track of the colors I use for various purposes. I do intend to roll my own to fix that, Roger > On Dec 7, 2014, at 2:44 AM, Graham Samuel wrote: > > How

Re: I Hate the New Color Picker

Thanks again, Richmond. That will be very helpful when I build my own version. > On Dec 7, 2014, at 3:48 AM, Richmond wrote: > > Just uploaded the color picker from the Mac Classic version > of Runtime Revolution 2.0 to https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ja47l87gg87s ... > C5ORa?dl=0 >

Re: I Hate the New Color Picker

What I want is a one-stop place where I can record and manage the color palettes of each and every one of my projects. A subset of the OS picker, as you note. I’m working on it. Roger > On Dec 7, 2014, at 2:44 AM, Graham Samuel wrote: > > How much functionality do you want in a color picker

Re: I Hate the New Color Picker

Just the flatness of it, but more importantly, the limit of just one row of color patches. I was used to using multiple rows to record and manage multiple projects. I realize now that It’s no biggie, and I overreacted! I’ll build a better tool for what I need and offer to all to make up for petu

Re: I Hate the New Color Picker

Just pull down from the bottom of the color picker patches and you'll get 10 rows, just like earlier versions. On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Roger Guay wrote: > Just the flatness of it, but more importantly, the limit of just one row > of color patches. I was used to using multiple rows to rec

Re: I Hate the New Color Picker

Thank you Howard! There’s a tiny dot there that I had not noticed. You don’t know how many times I tried to pull down from every point other than that tiny dot to no avail. What a twit I am!! > On Dec 7, 2014, at 3:16 PM, Howard Bornstein wrote: > > Just pull down from the bottom of the color

Re: I Hate the New Color Picker

I wouldn't have seen it myself if I hadn't used my large Holmesian magnifying glass.;-) On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 4:27 PM, Roger Guay wrote: > Thank you Howard! There’s a tiny dot there that I had not noticed. You > don’t know how many times I tried to pull down from every point other than > that t

Re: I Hate the New Color Picker

Hi, Can someone post a screenshot because I don't see a small dot on the Yosemite color picker. I am also stuck with one row of colors. Greetings, William 2014-12-08 8:17 GMT+01:00 Howard Bornstein : > I wouldn't have seen it myself if I hadn't used my large Holmesian > magnifying glass.;-) >

Re: I Hate the New Color Picker

Poke around just between and above the Cancel and OK btns and you’ll find the sweet spot where the cursor turns to a hand. Roger > On Dec 8, 2014, at 9:28 AM, William de Smet wrote: > > Hi, > Can someone post a screenshot because I don't see a small dot on the > Yosemite color picker. > I am

Re: I Hate the New Color Picker

William, I'm with you: no small dot, no resizing -- vertically, at least -- I can make the color picker wider up to a point. Here's a link to a screen shot: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ahzx78f6kzudgcl/Screenshot%202014-12-08%2013.56.46.png?dl=0 On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 1:20 PM, Roger Guay wrote: >

Re: I Hate the New Color Picker

Hi Geoff, This is my ColorPicker. I only have one visible line. I am on Yosemite 10.10.1 with LC 6.6.5 on a 21,5 inch iMac. https://www.dropbox.com/s/pkqwsgvu6i5q7tz/ColorPickerYosemite.png?dl=0 greetings, William 2014-12-08 19:57 GMT+01:00 Geoff Canyon : > William, I'm with you: no small d

Re: I Hate the New Color Picker

Here’s my screen grab clearly showing the dot. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/98788898/LiveCode/Screen%20Shot%202014-12-08%20at%2019.45.37.png All the best Terry > On 8 Dec 2014, at 1

Re: I Hate the New Color Picker

Well, this is strange. I was checking out the color picker in Yosemite using TextEdit, which incidentally, doesn't have those Cancel and OK buttons, but has the dot to pull down the color dock. When I call up the color picker in LC, I get the same view as Geoff, with two lines of palette docks and

Re: I Hate the New Color Picker

BTW, I'm on Yosemite 10.10 and LC 6.6.2. Maybe this is a function of version idiosyncrasies. On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 11:49 AM, Terence Heaford wrote: > Here’s my screen grab clearly showing the dot. > > > > https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/98788898/LiveCode/Screen%20Shot%202014-12-08%20at%2019

Re: I Hate the New Color Picker

Should have said my screen shot showing the dot is LC community 6.7.1 (RC3) running on iMac 21.5 Yosemite 10.10.1 The dot show on TextEdit, Numbers, Pages. All the best Terry > On 8 Dec 2014, at 19:49, Howard Bornstein wrote: > > Well, this is strange. I was checking out the color picker i

Re: I Hate the New Color Picker

Aha, the thought plickens! I’m running Yosemite 10.10.1 and find the dot appearing in LC 6.7.1 (rc2) but NOT in LC 6.6.5 nor in 6.7. > On Dec 8, 2014, at 11:55 AM, Terence Heaford wrote: > > Should have said my screen shot showing the dot is LC community 6.7.1 (RC3) > running on iMac 21.

Re: I Hate the New Color Picker

Here's mine in 6.6.2, which is the closest I have to 6.6.5. It has two rows, no matter how I resize it. I wonder if the international aspect is a factor here? https://www.dropbox.com/s/ahqcye1nmp3jn2r/Screenshot%202014-12-08%2017.32.53.png?dl=0 On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 5:18 PM, Roger Guay wrote:

Re: I Hate the New Color Picker

Yup, it’s a Cocoa thing. Not there in 6.6.x on Yosemite. Magically appears when you invoke the color picker in 6.7.x. Devin On Dec 8, 2014, at 3:34 PM, Geoff Canyon wrote: > Here's mine in 6.6.2, which is the closest I have to 6.6.5. It has two > rows, no matter how I resize it. I wonder if t

Re: I Hate the New Color Picker

Bummer! I find that versions 6.7.x are a problem for me, but I’ve also found that you can use the dot to reveal more swatches of the Color Picker in LC 6.7.1 (rc2), and it will stay “open” for when I go back to my current LC favorite, 6.6.5. Roger > On Dec 8, 2014, at 3:20 PM, Devin Asay wr

Re: I Hate the New Color Picker

By that reasoning, Livecode should recreate all the API’s Apple provides, rolling their own. And then we will get to gripe when they don’t work anymore after updating our OS. C’mon guys. For better or worse, ALL OS developers have to continue to innovate. If Apple’s OS troubles you, you can alwa

Re: I Hate the New Color Picker

Bob Sneidar wrote: > By that reasoning, Livecode should recreate all the API’s Apple > provides, rolling their own. In a sense, that's what LiveCode opens up for us with Open Language, a chance to use OS APIs directly. And smartly, if we choose to use APIs Apple later deprecates, it's up to u

Re: I Hate the New Color Picker

On 10/12/14 19:17, Bob Sneidar wrote: By that reasoning, Livecode should recreate all the API’s Apple provides, rolling their own. And then we will get to gripe when they don’t work anymore after updating our OS. C’mon guys. For better or worse, ALL OS developers have to continue to innovate.

Re: I Hate the New Color Picker

On 10/12/14 20:07, Richard Gaskin wrote: Bob Sneidar wrote: > By that reasoning, Livecode should recreate all the API’s Apple > provides, rolling their own. In a sense, that's what LiveCode opens up for us with Open Language, a chance to use OS APIs directly. And smartly, if we choose to use

Re: I Hate the New Color Picker

Richmond wrote: > On 10/12/14 20:07, Richard Gaskin wrote: >> And smartly, if we choose to use APIs Apple later deprecates, >> it's up to us rather than RunRev to update our scripts to >> conform with Apple's policy-du-jour. > > This is why it might not be a bad thing if Livecode can roll its own

Re: I Hate the New Color Picker

I’m only going off of posts made by Richmond over the years. (That’s probably only funny to Richmond). ;-) Bob S On Dec 10, 2014, at 10:07 , Richard Gaskin mailto:ambassa...@fourthworld.com>> wrote: > For better or worse, ALL OS developers have to continue to innovate. > If Apple’s OS trouble