Re: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?

2011-10-15 Thread Alejandro Tejada
These new properties for redrawing controls are a clear step forward and I hope to see soon a zoom control, that allows to enlarge or reduce all objects within the rectangle of a group. :-D Double thumbs Up!!! Al ___ use-livecode mailing list

Re: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?

2011-10-14 Thread Pete
OK, OK. How about Ricotta? It's not ch***e. Pete Molly's Revenge http://www.mollysrevenge.com On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 2:20 PM, Paul Looney simpl...@aol.com wrote: Help! Heather? Time, again, to ban imports of cheese. Paul Looney On Oct 13, 2011, at 12:32 PM, Andre Garzia wrote: On

Re: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?

2011-10-14 Thread Richmond Mathewson
On 10/14/2011 12:17 AM, Colin Holgate wrote: I recognize that pun, from ages ago. On Oct 13, 2011, at 4:53 PM, Keith Clarke wrote: ...isn't that always the whey! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to

Re: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?

2011-10-14 Thread Richmond Mathewson
On 10/14/2011 09:02 AM, Pete wrote: OK, OK. How about Ricotta? It's not ch***e. Really? What is it then? This seems similar to the claim that RunRev/Livecode is NOT a programming language. Pete Molly's Revengehttp://www.mollysrevenge.com On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 2:20 PM, Paul

Re: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?

2011-10-14 Thread Keith Clarke
On 14 Oct 2011, at 09:50, Richmond Mathewson wrote: This has degenerated into curd [misprint] ...and we all know you can't polish one of those - hence the desperate need for a LiveCode web deployment mechanism that doesn't require a plugin! ;-)

Re: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?

2011-10-14 Thread Pete
* * * From Wikipedia:* * * *Ricotta* (Italian pronunciation: [riˈkɔtta]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:IPA_for_Italian) is an Italian dairy product http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dairy_product made from sheep (or cow, goat, buffalo) milk whey left over from the production of cheese. Although

Re: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?

2011-10-14 Thread Bob Sneidar
Ricotta Ricotta Ricotta!! HAH HAH! I said it and you can't make me stop!! ;-) On Oct 14, 2011, at 8:57 AM, Pete wrote: * * * From Wikipedia:* * * *Ricotta* (Italian pronunciation: [riˈkɔtta]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:IPA_for_Italian) is an Italian dairy product

Re: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?

2011-10-14 Thread Richmond Mathewson
On 10/14/2011 06:57 PM, Pete wrote: * * * From Wikipedia:* * * *Ricotta* (Italian pronunciation: [riˈkɔtta]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:IPA_for_Italian) is an Italian dairy producthttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dairy_product made from sheep (or cow, goat, buffalo) milk whey left over

Re: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?

2011-10-14 Thread Pete
Having stirred up more controversy than I intended, I will now drop out of this discussion and leave you all to g-rind your teeth at any remaining puns. Pete Molly's Revenge http://www.mollysrevenge.com On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 10:21 AM, Keith Clarke keith.cla...@clarkeandclarke.co.uk wrote:

Re: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?

2011-10-14 Thread Mark Wieder
Richmond- Friday, October 14, 2011, 9:23:44 AM, you wrote: it is what, in Scotland at least, is known as a whey cheese; so, it is still cheese. By that line of reasoning, so is head cheese... -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___

Re: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?

2011-10-14 Thread Pete
And of course, everyone knows that Scotland is the ch***e capital of the world Pete Molly's Revenge http://www.mollysrevenge.com On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 5:58 PM, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net wrote: Richmond- Friday, October 14, 2011, 9:23:44 AM, you wrote: it is what, in

Re: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?

2011-10-13 Thread Chipp Walters
On Oct 11, 2011, at 8:58 PM, Admin ad...@mfelkerco.com wrote: snip. To say I was let down is an understatement. I lost my primary mode of income because the web deployment module, which supposedly worked, ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY DID NOT WORK. Wow. Betting your primary source of income on

Re: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?

2011-10-13 Thread stephen barncard
I think it was cool that Runrev listened to us on the list, many DEMANDED a plugin, stating that it was the 'Holy Grail' of web development. So they MADE ONE. I was impressed. They 'matched' the browser document model with a Rev card/stack. Wow. Regardless of the fact that I put off touching

Re: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?

2011-10-13 Thread Peter M. Brigham, MD
A search in the Gmane list archives suggests that this started in January 2003 with a message from the listMom, Heather Nagy: Dear list members, Let us start the New Year with a reminder of the mission statement for this list: We are here to discuss Revolution, and help each other along the

Re: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?

2011-10-13 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 10/13/11 8:00 AM, Peter M. Brigham, MD wrote: A search in the Gmane list archives suggests that this started in January 2003 with a message from the listMom, Heather Nagy: It goes farther back than that, but I'm not sure by how much. Someone mentioned ch**se, it started a stream of

Re: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?

2011-10-13 Thread Richmond Mathewson
On 10/13/2011 08:34 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 10/13/11 8:00 AM, Peter M. Brigham, MD wrote: A search in the Gmane list archives suggests that this started in January 2003 with a message from the listMom, Heather Nagy: It goes farther back than that, but I'm not sure by how much. Someone

Re: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?

2011-10-13 Thread René Micout
Le 13 oct. 2011 à 19:54, Richmond Mathewson a écrit : Pass the Camembert. YES and... le Livarot, le Pont-l'évêque, le Morbier, le Neufchâtel, Le Comté, le Maroil, le Beaufort, le Brie, le Boursin, le Crotin de Chavignoles, le Bleu d'Auvergne, le Bleu de Bresse, la Brousse, le Chaumes, le

Re: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?

2011-10-13 Thread Mark Schonewille
I'm sooo tempted to list all Dutch cheeses! -- Kind regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Http://economy-x-talk.com Share the clipboard of your computer over a local network with Clipboard Link http://clipboardlink.economy-x-talk.com Op 13 okt. 2011 om 20:46 heeft René Micout

Re: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?

2011-10-13 Thread Richmond Mathewson
On 10/13/2011 09:46 PM, René Micout wrote: Le 13 oct. 2011 à 19:54, Richmond Mathewson a écrit : Pass the Camembert. YES and... le Livarot, le Pont-l'évêque, le Morbier, le Neufchâtel, Le Comté, le Maroil, le Beaufort, le Brie, le Boursin, le Crotin de Chavignoles, le Bleu d'Auvergne, le

Re: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?

2011-10-13 Thread Richmond Mathewson
On 10/13/2011 09:53 PM, Mark Schonewille wrote: I'm sooo tempted to list all Dutch cheeses! A very, very great disappointment to me that we cannot buy Nagel Kaas here in Bulgaria. -- Kind regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Http://economy-x-talk.com Share the clipboard of your

Re: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?

2011-10-13 Thread Andre Garzia
On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 4:07 PM, Richmond Mathewson richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/13/2011 09:53 PM, Mark Schonewille wrote: I'm sooo tempted to list all Dutch cheeses! A very, very great disappointment to me that we cannot buy Nagel Kaas here in Bulgaria. try getting french

Re: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?

2011-10-13 Thread Bernard Devlin
As Oscar Wilde said: life imitates art. Surely no-one intended the interminable thread to mimic the Cheese Shop sketch from Monty Python? It seems like ideas just settle down into our sub-conscious, and we can't help but act them out (over and over again). Bernard On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 8:32

Re: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?

2011-10-13 Thread Pete
Oh dear! My innocent question seems to have resurrected the banned discussion. Pete Molly's Revenge http://www.mollysrevenge.com On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 12:59 PM, Bernard Devlin bdrun...@gmail.com wrote: As Oscar Wilde said: life imitates art. Surely no-one intended the interminable thread

Re: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?

2011-10-13 Thread Keith Clarke
...isn't that always the whey! On 13 Oct 2011, at 21:41, Pete wrote: Oh dear! My innocent question seems to have resurrected the banned discussion. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe,

Re: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?

2011-10-13 Thread Colin Holgate
I recognize that pun, from ages ago. On Oct 13, 2011, at 4:53 PM, Keith Clarke wrote: ...isn't that always the whey! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your

Re: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?

2011-10-13 Thread Paul Looney
Help! Heather? Time, again, to ban imports of cheese. Paul Looney On Oct 13, 2011, at 12:32 PM, Andre Garzia wrote: On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 4:07 PM, Richmond Mathewson richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/13/2011 09:53 PM, Mark Schonewille wrote: I'm sooo tempted to list all Dutch

Re: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?

2011-10-12 Thread Richmond Mathewson
On 10/12/2011 08:50 AM, Pete wrote: I think RR faces the problem that it is a lot of different things to a lot of different people. Look at the breadth of the subject matter on this discussion group to see how many disparate things are covered. I personally don't care about any of the

Re: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?

2011-10-12 Thread Andrew Kluthe
I was fairly unimpressed with what turned out to be the big 5.0. Seems not a whole lot has changed besides RevServer since 4.0. I think I'll wait for 6.0 or 7.0. -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/So-RunRev-wants-more-of-my-money-what-has-been

Re: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?

2011-10-12 Thread Gerry
Personally I'm angry that as an iOS-only developer I have to pay for the development of features that only those other pesky platforms like Mac, Windows and Linux can use :) Gerry -- photos: http://gerryorkin.com On Wednesday, 12 October 2011 at 5:44 PM, Andrew Kluthe wrote: I was

Re: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?

2011-10-12 Thread AndyP
) -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/So-RunRev-wants-more-of-my-money-what-has-been-fixed-tp3896596p3897049.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list

Re: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?

2011-10-12 Thread Roger Eller
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 12:14 AM, Roger Eller wrote: You are not alone in your disappointment regarding Android, Linux, 64-bit, web player. Every release has stated no changes in the release notes for Android. Why even bother to have release notes for anything but iOS? Kevin said a few

Re: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?

2011-10-12 Thread william humphrey
Gerry - that's funny and makes your point as I wonder why bother with IOS and android and web deployment when all I want is database access to work better and better and, of course, specifically the database I use (Valentina of course). Easier making of stand-alones with the windows and MacOS

Re: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?

2011-10-12 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 10/11/11 11:14 PM, Roger Eller wrote: Every release has stated no changes in the release notes for Android. Why even bother to have release notes for anything but iOS? The 5.0 release notes list a number of changes for Android (there are several sections on changes, make sure you read

Re: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?

2011-10-12 Thread Bob Sneidar
I liked blingingly fast better. I thought you were coining a new phrase! It's not just BLINDingly fast, it's BLINGingly fast!!! Bob On Oct 12, 2011, at 5:00 AM, Roger Eller wrote: Oops. I meant (feature parity would happen blindingly fast). It's hard to type through the tears of being

Re: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?

2011-10-12 Thread Bob Sneidar
Well I have to say that Runrev's track record of improving things (eventually) is quite good. They have addressed many if not most of the major concerns of the developers (and by major I mean a LOT of people want and need the changes) as well as addressing some of the minor changes (linux) when

Re: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?

2011-10-12 Thread Richmond Mathewson
On 10/12/2011 07:44 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: I liked blingingly fast better. I thought you were coining a new phrase! It's not just BLINDingly fast, it's BLINGingly fast!!! It does have a certain resonance . . . Possibly blingingly fast could be taken to mean so fast that it impresses one so

Re: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?

2011-10-12 Thread Roger Eller
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 12:52 PM, Richmond Mathewson wrote: On 10/12/2011 07:44 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: I liked blingingly fast better. I thought you were coining a new phrase! It's not just BLINDingly fast, it's BLINGingly fast!!! It does have a certain resonance . . . Possibly

Re: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?

2011-10-12 Thread Richmond Mathewson
On 10/12/2011 07:49 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: Well I have to say that Runrev's track record of improving things (eventually) is quite good. They have addressed many if not most of the major concerns of the developers (and by major I mean a LOT of people want and need the changes) as well as

Re: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?

2011-10-12 Thread Richard Gaskin
Bob Sneidar wrote: Well I have to say that Runrev's track record of improving things (eventually) is quite good. I would have to agree. I can sympathize with the OP's feelings, but here in my own office I've been buying software long enough that I have a policy: I only pay for what I can

Re: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?

2011-10-12 Thread Colin Holgate
There is a complication with LiveCode, in that you're paying for a year of updates. So, if a new version does something you would find useful, that isn't in the version you own, and it was implied that within a year there would be an upgrade that did some things that are vital to you, you might

Re: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?

2011-10-12 Thread David Glass
I was just told it's 3 months of updates, then there are minor and major upgrade charges outside of that 3-month window. Where did you see 1 year? Or are you referring to the Complete subscription product? On 10/12/2011 11:17 AM, Colin Holgate wrote: There is a complication with LiveCode,

Re: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?

2011-10-12 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hi, You're not obliged to buy the subscription. You can just buy those components that are important to you, when you need them. Download a trial copy, test it, and don't buy an upgrade if you don't like it. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering

Re: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?

2011-10-12 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 10/12/11 1:11 PM, Richmond Mathewson wrote: My current beef (sorry about that word to those on the RunRev list who eschew cow meat) with RunRev is with somebody's appalling English grammar and logic; Seems to be common in our field. Someone gave me this tee shirt:

RE: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?

2011-10-12 Thread Ralph DiMola
Look, I could cry all day long about Android and iOS parity, but. The boys and girls at RR have been amazingly responsive to my bug reports and requests. I personally have 2 or 3 bug fixes and a feature request implemented in a time frame that we could only wish for from other SW

Re: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?

2011-10-12 Thread Colin Holgate
Is there a chance that either Linux isn't increasing, or that it's at the expense of Windows users? Or do the number add up to more than 100%.? See here: http://www.itproportal.com/2011/09/13/mac-sales-increase-about-six-percent-september/ On Oct 12, 2011, at 2:11 PM, Richmond Mathewson wrote:

Re: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?

2011-10-12 Thread Richard Gaskin
Colin wrote: Is there a chance that either Linux isn't increasing, or that it's at the expense of Windows users? Or do the number add up to more than 100%.? See here: http://www.itproportal.com/2011/09/13/mac-sales-increase-about-six-percent-september/ Definitely coming from Windows, which

RE: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?

2011-10-12 Thread AndyP
://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/So-RunRev-wants-more-of-my-money-what-has-been-fixed-tp3896596p3899520.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit

Re: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?

2011-10-12 Thread Bob Sneidar
So far as I know, beef is not on the list of banned topics. Cheese however... Bob On Oct 12, 2011, at 11:11 AM, Richmond Mathewson wrote: My current beef (sorry about that word to those on the RunRev list who eschew cow meat) ___ use-livecode

Re: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?

2011-10-12 Thread Peter M. Brigham, MD
On Oct 12, 2011, at 5:45 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: So far as I know, beef is not on the list of banned topics. Cheese however... Uh-oh, you mentioned beef and cheese in the same email -- now that's not kosher -- Peter Peter M. Brigham pmb...@gmail.com http://home.comcast.net/~pmbrig

Re: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?

2011-10-12 Thread Pete
OK, now I know this is probably going to resurrect some painful memories but I haven't been a member of this group for long enough to understand the reason behind the forbidden word that begins with ch. I mean, ch is pretty tasty and quite nutritious in my experience Pete Molly's Revenge

So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?

2011-10-11 Thread Admin
OK. So now they added a bit of graphics power and updated IOS a bit. Now they want hundreds more of my money. Has Android progressed at all? I mean, really, at all? Now I have to spend tons of money to get what I already paid for that has not worked yet fully? Has web been fixed at all?

Re: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?

2011-10-11 Thread Roger Eller
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 9:58 PM, Admin ad...@mfelkerco.com wrote: OK. So now they added a bit of graphics power and updated IOS a bit. Now they want hundreds more of my money. Has Android progressed at all? I mean, really, at all? Now I have to spend tons of money to get what I already