wrote:
>
> Why is this post called Supercard 4.8 Public Beta??
>
> Bob S
>
>
>> On Feb 3, 2017, at 08:15 , Graham Samuel via use-livecode
>> wrote:
>>
>> Only slightly OT, quite near my first encounter with computers at all, and
>> at the very beginnin
Actually, I learned recently that C and it's variants is NOT a high level
language! It's considered a mid-level language.
Bob S
On Feb 3, 2017, at 08:20 , Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> wrote:
Only slightly OT, quite near my first encounter with computers
Why is this post called Supercard 4.8 Public Beta??
Bob S
> On Feb 3, 2017, at 08:15 , Graham Samuel via use-livecode
> wrote:
>
> Only slightly OT, quite near my first encounter with computers at all, and at
> the very beginning of my encounter with High Level Languages (
Only slightly OT, quite near my first encounter with computers at all, and at
the very beginning of my encounter with High Level Languages (do people still
use that expression?), I translated Knuth’s algorithm for calculating the date
of Easter into LISP 1. It would be a lot easier to do in Live
On Sun, Oct 16, 2016 at 9:20 PM, Scott Morrow
wrote:
> My brother lives on the other side of the country. I live across town. +1
> for Kay C Lan’s rant
But your brother is +1ing my solution :)
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You misunderstood me. By point and click I was referring to the way you MUST
program in Filemaker. There is no scripting language for Filemaker, and the
result is that something that would take you a half a minute to do with a few
lines of code take 5 minutes in Filemaker. I was not referring to
On Oct 16, 2016 1:06 AM, "Kay C Lan" wrote:
>
> On Sun, Oct 16, 2016 at 2:39 AM, Richmond
wrote:
>
> > I would argue that you can do all of that within Livecode, thereby
avoiding
> > a hiatus as you get kids to transfer.
> >
> And surely that's exactly the same argument as those who questions the
I live right at the other extreme of Europe from my parents: they live
in England, I live
in Bulgaria: but with the use of Skype, e-mail and Facebook we all (i.e.
the 23-odd ancient
pensioners I "support" with Linux) do just fine.
Richmond.
On 17.10.2016 01:20, Dr. Hawkins wrote:
On Sun, Oct
Here's something for the 80 year olds:
My Mum and Dad, who are 86 and 84 respectively, run Xubuntu on their 12
year old
Toshiba laptop: several of their friends (also in their 80s) run Linux
distros.
Frankly none of them know nothing more that "bung in the install disk" . . .
They have all c
+1 for Kay C
2016-10-17 7:20 GMT+03:00 Scott Morrow :
> My brother lives on the other side of the country. I live across town. +1
> for Kay C Lan’s rant
> — Scott Morrow
> > On Oct 16, 2016, at 3:20 PM, Dr. Hawkins wrote:
> >
> > On Sun, Oct 16, 2016 at 2:58 PM, Kay C Lan
> wrote:
> >
> >> We (
My brother lives on the other side of the country. I live across town. +1 for
Kay C Lan’s rant
— Scott Morrow
> On Oct 16, 2016, at 3:20 PM, Dr. Hawkins wrote:
>
> On Sun, Oct 16, 2016 at 2:58 PM, Kay C Lan wrote:
>
>> We (my wife and I) live 9hr flight time away from our parents.
>
>
> The
On Sun, Oct 16, 2016 at 2:58 PM, Kay C Lan wrote:
> We (my wife and I) live 9hr flight time away from our parents.
The trick here is to have your little brother living a couple of miles from
your parents, so that *he* gets the tech calls instead of you.
:)
Works for me, although some of the o
On Sun, Oct 16, 2016 at 8:45 PM, Roger Eller
wrote:
> In regards to "recording" actions to script, my first experience was in Mac
> OS 6. The finder had a menu item called "macro" that could record, save,
> and playback every click, drag, move, cut, copy, paste, and typed text that
> was performe
In regards to "recording" actions to script, my first experience was in Mac
OS 6. The finder had a menu item called "macro" that could record, save,
and playback every click, drag, move, cut, copy, paste, and typed text that
was performed in the GUI. This was in 1991, btw. But it wasn't revealed
That's very interesting; but one of the problems is that recording
Applescript is restricted to
one platform; and the most expensive one at that.
When I was working out how to start an EFL school in Bulgaria that was
rather different from those already in place I thought "Aah, a row of
Macs wi
On Sun, Oct 16, 2016 at 2:39 AM, Richmond wrote:
> I would argue that you can do all of that within Livecode, thereby avoiding
> a hiatus as you get kids to transfer.
>
And surely that's exactly the same argument as those who questions the
relevance of playing with a toy language like LiveCode wh
On 15.10.2016 20:41, Richard Gaskin wrote:
Richmond wrote:
> Thank you, Richard Gaskin, for clarifying that.
>
> What that does do is confirm my view that teaching children stuff
> such as Scratch at school has little or no value in the sense that
> it is NOT a programming language.
I would c
Scratch might be a digital version of Richmond's cups method. I was
impressed many years ago with his description of putting things into cups
to teach children the concept of variables, writing the name of the var on
the cup, and changing their contents. You can even put a variable into
another v
Richmond wrote:
> Thank you, Richard Gaskin, for clarifying that.
>
> What that does do is confirm my view that teaching children stuff
> such as Scratch at school has little or no value in the sense that
> it is NOT a programming language.
I would caution against using the rants of a programmer
Thank you, Richard Gaskin, for clarifying that.
What that does do is confirm my view that teaching children stuff such
as Scratch at school
has little or no value in the sense that it is NOT a programming language.
Teaching Scratch reminds me of Jas Pitman's Initial Teaching Alphabet:
intende
Richmond wrote:
> On Oct 5, 2016, at 10:22 , Richard Gaskin wrote:
>>
>> Like Bill Appleton told me shortly after he left his point-and-click
>> authoring tool CourseBuilder behind to make SuperCard, there's a
>> limit on the complexity of systems that can be expressed clearly in
>> any point-and
Aha!
On 15.10.2016 17:04, Colin Holgate wrote:
I believe Richard was talking about tools that only did point and click.
Well tools that only do point and click are a bit of a dead loss because
their authors are
unable to make them fine-grained enough that end-users can tune them
sufficiently
I believe Richard was talking about tools that only did point and click.
Everything had to be achieved by placing elements and setting parameters.
mTropolis was one of the neater tools of that type, but it would take a lot of
logical thinking to get it to achieve things that could be done in a f
On 15.10.2016 07:14, Bob Sneidar wrote:
Filemaker has a point and click programming interface. It just gets in the way. I spent
more time perusing the dialog and sub-dialog boxes to try and figure out how to add 1 to
a variable that contains 1, that I found myself saying, "Can't I just type a
On Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 9:14 PM, Bob Sneidar
wrote:
> Filemaker has a point and click programming interface. It just gets in the
> way. I spent more time perusing the dialog and sub-dialog boxes to try and
> figure out how to add 1 to a variable that contains 1, that I found myself
> saying, "Can
Filemaker has a point and click programming interface. It just gets in the way.
I spent more time perusing the dialog and sub-dialog boxes to try and figure
out how to add 1 to a variable that contains 1, that I found myself saying,
"Can't I just type a formula??"
I gave up on Filemaker.
Bob S
On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 2:25 AM, David V Glasgow wrote:
> Do not try to bend the card.
Nor spindle fold, or mutilate . . .
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Richard,
I take issue that the specific metaphor doesn’t matter. Stacks and cards are
great metaphors for that period of time when a potential programmer is trying
to build a mental model of what exactly it is they are trying to do on screen,
and relating that to the available tools and vocab
I wonder how any development suite and/or language could claim it did not
rely on a metaphor unless it consisted of programming in nothing but
ones and zeros?
Richmond.
On 5.10.2016 20:03, David V Glasgow wrote:
I PAID in advance for the Windows version, and then switched to mTropolis.
II
David V Glasgow wrote:
> I PAID in advance for the Windows version, and then switched to
> mTropolis. IIRC it trumpeted that it did not rely on a metaphor.
>
> Boy was I glad to get back to stacks & cards
For me it's not even the "card metaphor" - we could call it a "form"
like VB does or a "
I PAID in advance for the Windows version, and then switched to mTropolis.
IIRC it trumpeted that it did not rely on a metaphor.
Boy was I glad to get back to stacks & cards
David G
> On 5 Oct 2016, at 2:03 am, Earthednet-wp wrote:
>
> I waited a year for the DOS version. It never came. T
I waited a year for the DOS version. It never came. Then
I went to Director.
Bill
William Prothero
http://es.earthednet.org
> On Oct 4, 2016, at 2:44 PM, Dr. Hawkins wrote:
>
> On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 2:18 PM, Bob Sneidar
> wrote:
>
>> Agreed. I probably paid for the original Supercard and ab
On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 2:18 PM, Bob Sneidar
wrote:
> Agreed. I probably paid for the original Supercard and about 4 upgrades
> over the years and never produced anything with it, but the ability to
> continue working in a hypercard-like environment and wanting it to not go
> the way of Hypercard
Agreed. I probably paid for the original Supercard and about 4 upgrades over
the years and never produced anything with it, but the ability to continue
working in a hypercard-like environment and wanting it to not go the way of
Hypercard was enough to keep me on the gravy train.
Bob S
On Sep
Well, every time there is a new Supercard release I download the trial and,
every time, I wonder why I do that. But I do the same sort of thing for
HyperNEXT as well
[ http://www.tigabyte.com ] so I'm obviously bonkers.
I owned a copy of SuperCard in 1995 and really could never work out how
to
On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 10:58 AM, Richmond
wrote:
> I, personally, playing on my G5 running PPC 10.5, cannot for the life of
> me see any obvious
> advantages of Supercard over Livecode. It strikes me that this is probably
> largely used by people
> who have dug themselves into a Macintosh-only c
I was a hypercard ACE but my three purchases of Supercard over the years
never got used. I found the whole system baffling, an annoying workflow.
I always went back to HC.
sqb
Stephen Barncard - Sebastopol Ca. USA -
mixstream.org
On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 10:58 AM, Richmond
wrote:
> I, personal
I, personally, playing on my G5 running PPC 10.5, cannot for the life of
me see any obvious
advantages of Supercard over Livecode. It strikes me that this is
probably largely used by people
who have dug themselves into a Macintosh-only corner.
Richmond.
On 22.09.2016 20:43, Dr. Hawkins wrote:
On the other side of the fence . . . SupercCard just emailed me about their
public beta for 4.8.
Since it's mac only (again), I have no interest, and it apparently still
doesn't have things I need from LC 5 (and I presume at least 4). (For that
matter, the only things that I *really* need that we
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