Re: TS Net for Indy vs Business

2017-01-06 Thread Andre Garzia via use-livecode
On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 2:49 AM, Heather Laine via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > "A bit like devs are being milked" seems a somewhat extraordinary > statement. LiveCode is a business, with expenses and a stable of highly > skilled and valuable developers. Which of them

RE: TS Net for Indy vs Business

2017-01-06 Thread Jim MacConnell via use-livecode
: Friday, January 06, 2017 8:10 AM To: How to use LiveCode Cc: Bob Sneidar Subject: Re: TS Net for Indy vs Business Exactly what I was thinking when I read it. My greatest aprehension in using Livecode is that one day it will be gone, and I will have to learn to use C++ or Objective C, which

Re: TS Net for Indy vs Business

2017-01-06 Thread Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode
I totally agree with you and could not have said it better. > Am 06.01.2017 um 17:09 schrieb Bob Sneidar via use-livecode > >: > > Exactly what I was thinking when I read it. My greatest aprehension in using > Livecode is

Re: TS Net for Indy vs Business

2017-01-06 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Exactly what I was thinking when I read it. My greatest aprehension in using Livecode is that one day it will be gone, and I will have to learn to use C++ or Objective C, which is to say I will have to give up software development. I'm not really sure how they stay afloat as is, but as I

Re: TS Net for Indy vs Business

2017-01-06 Thread Keith Martin via use-livecode
On 6 Jan 2017, at 12:49, Heather Laine via use-livecode wrote: "A bit like devs are being milked" seems a somewhat extraordinary statement. LiveCode is a business, with expenses and a stable of highly skilled and valuable developers. I meant this in the traditional 'online pushy chatty'

Re: TS Net for Indy vs Business

2017-01-06 Thread Heather Laine via use-livecode
"A bit like devs are being milked" seems a somewhat extraordinary statement. LiveCode is a business, with expenses and a stable of highly skilled and valuable developers. Which of them would you like us to fire? We need to pay for LiveCode's development so that all of the users in the community

Re: TS Net for Indy vs Business

2017-01-06 Thread Keith Martin via use-livecode
On 30 Dec 2016, at 12:41, Skip Kimpel wrote: +1 LC needs to reconsider breaking up functionality based upon licensing. Indeed! I haven't looked in depth at the differences, but I thought it was more (or even entirely) about support, which makes sense for high-level business requirements,

Re: TS Net for Indy vs Business

2017-01-06 Thread Charles Warwick via use-livecode
Hi Bill and others, I appreciate the feedback regarding the feature breakdown between the different licenses. The decision to split the features (and how they were split) across Business and Indy was decided on by the LiveCode team. I expect that some of them may have seen this thread,

Re: TS Net for Indy vs Business

2017-01-03 Thread William Prothero
Charles: It also seems to me like this is a vital feature that could cripple some applications. I agree with the other posters that the Indy version will probably be purchased by the great majority of those who purchase licenses. It “should” be a big market. Best, Bill > Skip Kimpel wrote:

Re: TS Net for Indy vs Business

2016-12-30 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami
SFTP var content only? Wow… Strange strategy… Indy should/could be LC's bread and butter.. a product that works may be a better strategy in the long run than providing a crippled option. Reserve business only feature for true enterprise features, not for a simple options that come with any

Re: TS Net for Indy vs Business

2016-12-30 Thread Andre Garzia
Charles, Thanks a lot for the quick reply! Things are much clearer now. I have some comments below. On Fri, Dec 30, 2016 at 12:13 AM, Charles Warwick < char...@techstrategies.com.au> wrote: > 2. For Indy users, SFTP and SMTP can only be performed to/from a variable > - not directly using a

Re: TS Net for Indy vs Business

2016-12-30 Thread Colin.Kelly
+1 On 30/12/2016, 11:40, "use-livecode on behalf of Roger Eller" wrote: I am really disappointed that SFTP (for Indy) is limited to a variable (RAM) -vs- writing directly to a file. Moving large files

Re: TS Net for Indy vs Business

2016-12-30 Thread Skip Kimpel
+1 LC needs to reconsider breaking up functionality based upon licensing. SKIP > On Dec 30, 2016, at 6:40 AM, Roger Eller wrote: > > I am really disappointed that SFTP (for Indy) is limited to a variable > (RAM) -vs- writing directly to a file. Moving large files

Re: TS Net for Indy vs Business

2016-12-30 Thread Roger Eller
I am really disappointed that SFTP (for Indy) is limited to a variable (RAM) -vs- writing directly to a file. Moving large files that exceed system RAM is very common. ~Roger On Dec 30, 2016 5:13 AM, "Charles Warwick" wrote: > Hi Andre, > > I will be adding a

Re: TS Net for Indy vs Business

2016-12-30 Thread Charles Warwick
Hi Andre, I will be adding a fair amount of documentation for tsNet over the coming weeks that I hope will better answer a number of the questions that are being asked on the list. In the mean time, I hope that the following two points will explain what is happening for you. 1. For Indy

Re: TS Net for Indy vs Business

2016-12-27 Thread Andre Garzia
Hey, Yes, we found that page as well. The problem is that even though the page lists features available to each license, there is no list of commands and functions per license. For example, it says that public key authentication is only available to business license holders, so we'd assume that

Re: TS Net for Indy vs Business

2016-12-27 Thread Richard Gaskin
Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami wrote: > We need some help. > > We know that we can do SFTP with TS-Net external > > but > > functions that we try to use from an Indy LC return "unlicensed" even > when, the documentation make not indication that they should fail > without the business license. > >

Re: TS Net for Indy vs Business

2016-12-27 Thread Skip Kimpel
I agree but I am also about to launch a product that uses the SFTP functionality and am curious about what feature you are getting that message for so I don't have any surprises. SKIP > On Dec 27, 2016, at 8:58 AM, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami > wrote: > > Would rather not

Re: TS Net for Indy vs Business

2016-12-27 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami
Would rather not piece-meal this: For the sake of the product (to keep new developers from cursing LC) Let's get documentation: simple: All commands/methods that will work with Indy and any standalone built with Indy All commands/methods that are business license only + ideally: sample

Re: TS Net for Indy vs Business

2016-12-26 Thread Skip Kimpel
What features are you getting "unlicensed" for? SKIP > On Dec 26, 2016, at 9:03 PM, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami > wrote: > > We need some help. > > We know that we can do SFTP with TS-Net external > > but > > functions that we try to use from an Indy LC return "unlicensed"

TS Net for Indy vs Business

2016-12-26 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami
We need some help. We know that we can do SFTP with TS-Net external but functions that we try to use from an Indy LC return "unlicensed" even when, the documentation make not indication that they should fail without the business license. What we need is Documention on what functions and