Re: The Road Map as it now is . . . . .

2014-08-18 Thread Paul Dupuis
On 8/18/2014 1:58 PM, Richmond wrote: > On 16/08/14 22:13, Richmond wrote: >> AND . . . >> >> Open Language. >> >> This seems very awkward. >> >> Let us just suppose Fred Flintstone writes an extension to the >> Livecode language (what is it called again?) >> that is very clever . . . >> >> 1. Does

Re: The Road Map as it now is . . . . .

2014-08-18 Thread Richmond
On 18/08/14 21:18, Charles E Buchwald wrote: I was under the impression that the Open Language initiative is to follow the usual open source model, and have some kind of gatekeeper who includes new, useful, user-contributed additions to the latest release. I could be wrong about that, though.

Re: The Road Map as it now is . . . . .

2014-08-18 Thread Charles E Buchwald
I was under the impression that the Open Language initiative is to follow the usual open source model, and have some kind of gatekeeper who includes new, useful, user-contributed additions to the latest release. I could be wrong about that, though. - Charles On 18 Aug 2014, at 12:58 PM, Richmon

Re: The Road Map as it now is . . . . .

2014-08-18 Thread Richmond
On 16/08/14 22:13, Richmond wrote: AND . . . Open Language. This seems very awkward. Let us just suppose Fred Flintstone writes an extension to the Livecode language (what is it called again?) that is very clever . . . 1. Does he, somehow, infect all subsequent versions of Livecode with hi

Re: The Road Map as it now is . . . . .

2014-08-17 Thread Mike Kerner
More platforms fully supported is far better for the ethos and reputation of the platform, and it makes my life as a developer, trying to convince corporate users to let us work for them a TON easier. Yes, sir, we can develop your app for both platforms, and we think you'll like our pricing better

Re: The Road Map as it now is . . . . .

2014-08-17 Thread Richard Gaskin
Colin Holgate wrote: > With the Intel Android devices you have a choice of either living > with the emulated performance, which is what we’ve done so far, or > you have to use a tool that can publish to Intel. Those people you > cite have more budget than we do, and may well have used tools that

Re: The Road Map as it now is . . . . .

2014-08-17 Thread Colin Holgate
With the Intel Android devices you have a choice of either living with the emulated performance, which is what we’ve done so far, or you have to use a tool that can publish to Intel. Those people you cite have more budget than we do, and may well have used tools that can publish to Intel. I kno

Re: The Road Map as it now is . . . . .

2014-08-17 Thread Richard Gaskin
Colin Holgate wrote: > The point made earlier about free apps that are to run on > specifically Android, is a valid, and RunRev should continue to > work on Android support. In your reply I think you also indirectly > argued that LiveCode should support Windows 8 devices, which is a > good idea t

Re: The Road Map as it now is . . . . .

2014-08-17 Thread Colin Holgate
The point made earlier about free apps that are to run on specifically Android, is a valid, and RunRev should continue to work on Android support. In your reply I think you also indirectly argued that LiveCode should support Windows 8 devices, which is a good idea too. There’s yet another compl

Re: The Road Map as it now is . . . . .

2014-08-17 Thread Richard Gaskin
Dr. Hawkins wrote: On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 3:11 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: IDC's latest numbers this week put Android at 84% for Q2 unit sales, with Apple at 11%. Not that much different from what we see on the desktop, with Microsoft actually gaining in recent years back up to 91% to Apple's

Re: The Road Map as it now is . . . . .

2014-08-17 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 3:11 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > IDC's latest numbers this week put Android at 84% for Q2 unit sales, with > Apple at 11%. Not that much different from what we see on the desktop, > with Microsoft actually gaining in recent years back up to 91% to Apple's > 7.8%. > But o

Re: The Road Map as it now is . . . . .

2014-08-17 Thread Richard Gaskin
Colin Holgate wrote: > So, Android’s market share of devices doesn’t translate to potential > income for app developers, and the wide range of OS releases, and > hardware variations, makes it a harder platform to support. It's true that pretty much every survey on developer revenue from app sal

Re: The Road Map as it now is . . . . .

2014-08-17 Thread Terry Dennis
Allow me to support the prior commentary on weak Android support. LiveCode’s support of that platform is incomplete and frustrating. Colin’s reference to “potential income for app developers” is valid. However, I don’t rely on LiveCode for my income. I use it to develop customized apps for no

Re: The Road Map as it now is . . . . .

2014-08-17 Thread Colin Holgate
Couple of things to think of, with regard to Android and iOS potential market: Apps that go into Google Play show a figure, which represents the number of devices that your app is compatible with. That number has gone over 6,000. With iOS, if you include all the iPod touches and iPads, as well a

Re: The Road Map as it now is . . . . .

2014-08-16 Thread Peter Haworth
Even though I don't develop for iOS/Android (yet!), I have to agree with this. Android has a huge market share on phones and tablets compared to iOS, yet it seems that LC support for Android is lacking compared to iOS. Pete lcSQL Software Home of lcStackBrowser

Re: The Road Map as it now is . . . . .

2014-08-16 Thread Marc Van Cauwenberghe
I can relate to all of what you are saying Erik. Even iOS support is far from being what it should be. I hope the Widget are the solution but even there I have no high hopes. September will also be a breakong point for me. Regards, Marc Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone > Op 17-aug.-2014 om 03:01 he

Re: The Road Map as it now is . . . . .

2014-08-16 Thread Erik Beugelaar
I would rather like to see the demonstration of Widgets/Themes on the next RunRevLive 2014 instead of the roadmap of Open Language (whatever it maybe). My first concern is the missing native (external) support to Android. To clear up this missing support (which is almost available in any other cr

Re: The Road Map as it now is . . . . .

2014-08-16 Thread Richmond
AND . . . Open Language. This seems very awkward. Let us just suppose Fred Flintstone writes an extension to the Livecode language (what is it called again?) that is very clever . . . 1. Does he, somehow, infect all subsequent versions of Livecode with his extension? 2. Does he make his e

The Road Map as it now is . . . . .

2014-08-16 Thread Richmond
"If you ever plan to motor west, Travel my way, take the highway that is best. Get your kicks on Route sixty-six." Well, personally, I am currently getting my kicks here: http://livecode.com/community/roadmap/ Or: Took the Revvy to the Levvy, But the Levvy was dry, Singin' "Why, Why, Kevin, W