Re: The Story of Steve Jobs - An Inspiration or a Cautionary Tale

2012-08-17 Thread Chipp Walters
Thanks for your apology. Chippy would've been fine! On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 7:40 PM, Björnke von Gierke wrote: > Sorry. I have no clue how it is to feel overweight and therefore my > wording was inconsiderate. > > I saw you addressing me as 'Bjorke', so I replied with a over the top post > too.

RE: The Story of Steve Jobs - An Inspiration or a Cautionary Tale

2012-08-17 Thread Alejandro Tejada
e ones that, from my point of view, had more importance. Al -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/The-Story-of-Steve-Jobs-An-Inspiration-or-a-Cautionary-Tale-tp4653671p4653919.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.co

RE: The Story of Steve Jobs - An Inspiration or a Cautionary Tale

2012-08-17 Thread Lynn Fredricks
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Re: The Story of Steve Jobs - An Inspiration or a Cautionary Tale

2012-08-16 Thread Mark Wieder
Bob- Thursday, August 16, 2012, 4:15:41 PM, you wrote: > Mrrphl grrglmph mrrphlegrrgl phrmphhlt! ;-) -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscri

Re: The Story of Steve Jobs - An Inspiration or a Cautionary Tale

2012-08-16 Thread Björnke von Gierke
Sorry. I have no clue how it is to feel overweight and therefore my wording was inconsiderate. I saw you addressing me as 'Bjorke', so I replied with a over the top post too. I started with 'Chippy' and then made a re-edit too much. How about that off-list sparring match? Bjoernke On 17.08.201

Re: The Story of Steve Jobs - An Inspiration or a Cautionary Tale

2012-08-16 Thread Bob Sneidar
Mrrphl grrglmph mrrphlegrrgl phrmphhlt! ;-) Bob On Aug 16, 2012, at 4:07 PM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: > On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 7:31 AM, Andrew Ctech wrote: >> Bob Sneidar frequently >> uses [OT] posts to this list as a jumping off point for his wingnut >> opinions. > > It is quite clear that wing

Re: The Story of Steve Jobs - An Inspiration or a Cautionary Tale

2012-08-16 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 7:31 AM, Andrew Ctech wrote: > Bob Sneidar frequently > uses [OT] posts to this list as a jumping off point for his wingnut > opinions. It is quite clear that wingnuts are fare easier to tighten by hand than are traditional nuts. How could anyone have a different opinion

Re: The Story of Steve Jobs - An Inspiration or a Cautionary Tale

2012-08-16 Thread Roger Eller
Seriously! What has gotten into my favorite list folk? Has there been a solar-flare that has turned these guys into angry pre-apocolyptic zombies? Please, can't we all just share code, and get along again? ~Roger On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 6:22 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: > Can we be done with this

Re: The Story of Steve Jobs - An Inspiration or a Cautionary Tale

2012-08-16 Thread Chipp Walters
Ouch. A personal attack making fun of how a person looks, is low-- even for you, Bjoernke. I have had a serious health problem over the past few years which has resulted in my adding some un-needed weight-- of which I am sensitive about. My poke was just a funny point at the attempts to 'manage'

Re: The Story of Steve Jobs - An Inspiration or a Cautionary Tale

2012-08-16 Thread Mark Wieder
Bob- Thursday, August 16, 2012, 1:21:03 PM, you wrote: > I didn't think what I posted was all that charged. ...and indeed it wasn't. Can we be done with this silliness and get back to coding again? -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-li

Re: The Story of Steve Jobs - An Inspiration or a Cautionary Tale

2012-08-16 Thread Bob Sneidar
Thanks Peter I didn't think what I posted was all that charged. It wasn't even biased one way or another. I was simply responding to Alejandro's remark that I didn't think things were likely to change on either side of the aisle. Bob On Aug 16, 2012, at 9:39 AM, Peter M. Brigham wrote: > On

Re: The Story of Steve Jobs - An Inspiration or a Cautionary Tale

2012-08-16 Thread Richard Gaskin
The Ubuntu forums are perhaps the most restrictive I've ever participated in, even more than the old CompuServe forums where users were required to use their real names in an attempt to maintain a professional tone for conversations. The Ubuntu forums are governed by a Code of Conduct, which d

Re: The Story of Steve Jobs - An Inspiration or a Cautionary Tale

2012-08-16 Thread Jeff Reynolds
So livecode now has embedded code for human brains?! Where is the upload socket? Glad to see they just skipped over mobile devices and went directly to the wetware. Cheers, jeff On Aug 16, 2012, at 1:00 PM, use-livecode-requ...@lists.runrev.com wrote: > on mouseup > put the text of fld "emai

Re: The Story of Steve Jobs - An Inspiration or a Cautionary Tale

2012-08-16 Thread Peter M. Brigham
On Aug 16, 2012, at 9:02 AM, Bob Sneidar wrote: > I have posted a great solution for all who are offended by me. Most email > software has a great feature called Rules. You set a rule that will do a > particular thing when the email meets a certain criteria. For instance, you > could make a rul

Re: The Story of Steve Jobs - An Inspiration or a Cautionary Tale

2012-08-16 Thread Bob Sneidar
I have posted a great solution for all who are offended by me. Most email software has a great feature called Rules. You set a rule that will do a particular thing when the email meets a certain criteria. For instance, you could make a rule that sends any emails from me to the trash. I have alre

Re: The Story of Steve Jobs - An Inspiration or a Cautionary Tale

2012-08-16 Thread Andrew Ctech
If it were occasional, it wouldn't be such an issue. Bob Sneidar frequently uses [OT] posts to this list as a jumping off point for his wingnut opinions. I am all for arguing wacky positions on all things and have many wingnut opinions of my own, but I know this is not the proper venue for such. I

Re: The Story of Steve Jobs - An Inspiration or a Cautionary Tale

2012-08-16 Thread Björnke von Gierke
Hi Chubby I'd say it's kinda sad to assume the only venue for everyone to talk about politics is a mailing list for one specific IDE. But then, maybe making snarky off topic remarks is yours and Bobbies only reprise from your otherwise dull and non-political life? Who knows why he does it. But

Re: The Story of Steve Jobs - An Inspiration or a Cautionary Tale

2012-08-15 Thread Chipp Walters
Oh, thank God for Bjorke and Pete. Congrats on your strong committment to civility and thanks to you both we don't have to face any uncomfortable comments. I'd have hated to actually have to actually ignore a comment which I didn't agree with. You guys both all in their place. Way to go! Both hero

Re: The Story of Steve Jobs - An Inspiration or a Cautionary Tale

2012-08-15 Thread Björnke von Gierke
> I personally would prefer that members of this list refrain from political > jabs. > > -- Peter You're my hero! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscriptio

Re: The Story of Steve Jobs - An Inspiration or a Cautionary Tale

2012-08-15 Thread Andrew Ctech
Thank you, Peter. On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 12:07 AM, Peter M. Brigham wrote: > On Aug 14, 2012, at 2:28 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: > > > I know. I feel like I am the cheated one because I work. But (and at the > risk of inviting someone's ire) any politician who tries to fix this will > find HIMSELF

Re: The Story of Steve Jobs - An Inspiration or a Cautionary Tale

2012-08-14 Thread Peter M. Brigham
On Aug 14, 2012, at 2:28 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: > I know. I feel like I am the cheated one because I work. But (and at the risk > of inviting someone's ire) any politician who tries to fix this will find > HIMSELF on welfare and out of a job pretty soon. Crazy, huh? There are other ways of look

Re: The Story of Steve Jobs - An Inspiration or a Cautionary Tale

2012-08-14 Thread Bob Sneidar
l find HIMSELF on welfare and out >> of a job pretty soon. Crazy, huh? >> > > smile... > http://www.prosebeforehos.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/new-normal-college-and-unemployment.png > > Al > > > > -- > View this message in context: > ht

Re: The Story of Steve Jobs - An Inspiration or a Cautionary Tale

2012-08-14 Thread Alejandro Tejada
/www.prosebeforehos.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/new-normal-college-and-unemployment.png Al -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/The-Story-of-Steve-Jobs-An-Inspiration-or-a-Cautionary-Tale-tp4653671p4653804.html Sent from the Revolution - User

Re: The Story of Steve Jobs - An Inspiration or a Cautionary Tale

2012-08-14 Thread Bob Sneidar
I know. I feel like I am the cheated one because I work. But (and at the risk of inviting someone's ire) any politician who tries to fix this will find HIMSELF on welfare and out of a job pretty soon. Crazy, huh? Bob On Aug 14, 2012, at 1:44 PM, Chipp Walters wrote: > Ugh. Didn't know that. A

Re: The Story of Steve Jobs - An Inspiration or a Cautionary Tale

2012-08-14 Thread Chipp Walters
Ugh. Didn't know that. And I expect it to go up with the baby boomers retiring soon... On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 12:35 PM, Alejandro Tejada wrote: > > "when Social Security, Medicare and unemployment benefits are included, > nearly half of the nation lived in a household that received a government

Re: The Story of Steve Jobs - An Inspiration or a Cautionary Tale

2012-08-14 Thread Alejandro Tejada
hird-quarter 2010 Census data done by the Mercatus Center at George Mason University, a libertarian-leaning think tank. That's more than 148 million Americans." Al -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/The-Story-of-Steve-Jobs-An-Inspiration-o

Re: The Story of Steve Jobs - An Inspiration or a Cautionary Tale

2012-08-13 Thread Chipp Walters
Bob, I 100% agree with what you say. Each person needs different kinds of motivation. I used to have a brillant game designer who was unmatched in our company. Still, every 6 months or so I needed to go in to his office and have a heart to heart regarding his work ethic. Then, he was good for anot

Re: The Story of Steve Jobs - An Inspiration or a Cautionary Tale

2012-08-13 Thread Bob Sneidar
Should give us all pause. I think this applies to all of us. In fact, it inspired one of the greatest poets and philosophers in history to say, "Vanity, vanity, all is vanity and vexation of spirit." I tend to think he felt that way because he "didn't finish the book" as it were. Bob On Aug

Re: The Story of Steve Jobs - An Inspiration or a Cautionary Tale

2012-08-13 Thread Alejandro Tejada
essage in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/The-Story-of-Steve-Jobs-An-Inspiration-or-a-Cautionary-Tale-tp4653671p4653715.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use

Re: The Story of Steve Jobs - An Inspiration or a Cautionary Tale

2012-08-13 Thread Richmond Mathewson
Lynn Fredricks wrote: On Aug 13, 2012, at 9:25 AM, Chipp Walters wrote: Read and save this article about Steve Jobs. I could assure you that his "management style" will find many followers in the short place and near future. We should expect disastrous results in more than one case... http://ww

RE: The Story of Steve Jobs - An Inspiration or a Cautionary Tale

2012-08-13 Thread Lynn Fredricks
> On Aug 13, 2012, at 9:25 AM, Chipp Walters wrote: > Read and save this article about Steve Jobs. > I could assure you that his "management style" > will find many followers in the short place and near future. > > We should expect disastrous results in more than one case... > > http://www.wired.

Re: The Story of Steve Jobs - An Inspiration or a Cautionary Tale

2012-08-13 Thread Mike Kerner
Proving once again that management styles and people and governmental structures can vary widely and still achieve..and fail. -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and

Re: The Story of Steve Jobs - An Inspiration or a Cautionary Tale

2012-08-13 Thread Bob Sneidar
I have to think there is some kind of compromise. I work in a place where almost no one is watched or managed, and I can tell you that all but the very diligent and self motivated really do much. (I hope nobody who works here reads this!) Having spend 6 years in the Navy, I came to realize that

Re: The Story of Steve Jobs - An Inspiration or a Cautionary Tale

2012-08-13 Thread Chipp Walters
trous results in more > than one case... > > http://www.wired.com/business/2012/07/ff_stevejobs/all/ > > Al > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/The-Story-of-Steve-Jobs-An-Inspiration-or-a-Cautionary-Tale-tp465367

The Story of Steve Jobs - An Inspiration or a Cautionary Tale

2012-08-12 Thread Alejandro Tejada
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