Re: Upgrade to Lion on 15 inch laptop pro forces resize of stacks

I think that my problems may have had a lot to do with that I also work on a large monitor part of the time and on the laptop alone part of the time. I will remove the bug report I guess since all the excellent sleuthing proved somehow that my problem was operator error. Anyway, I redesigned my mai

Re: Upgrade to Lion on 15 inch laptop pro forces resize of stacks

I get similar results on my iMac. However that doesn"t help William. On the face of it, he upgraded to Lion, changed nothing in his lc app and nothing in his osx config, yet his stack size changed. I don"t know if lc or osx caused this but we still haven't figured out why it happened. Maybe it"s

Re: Upgrade to Lion on 15 inch laptop pro forces resize of stacks

I get similar results on my iMac. However that doesn"t help William. On the face of it, he upgraded to Lion, changed nothing in his lc app and nothing in his osx config, yet his stack size changed. I don"t know if lc or osx caused this but we still haven-t figured out why it happened. Maybe it"s

Re: Upgrade to Lion on 15 inch laptop pro forces resize of stacks

William, This is very easy to achieve, in the card script, on openCard you can simply, lock screen set the height of stack "my stack" to 3456 set the width of stack "my stack" to 2345 This will override the automatic resizing that goes on. This does have it's problems though as it may push the m

Re: Upgrade to Lion on 15 inch laptop pro forces resize of stacks

Kay C Lan wrote: William, after some extensive testing of Lion, I conclude that Lion behaves better than Snow Leopard in regard to the available size a stack can take up. I can only surmise that when you upgraded to Lion your Dock settings changed, in particular the default size prior to any mag

Re: Upgrade to Lion on 15 inch laptop pro forces resize of stacks

If you would like to test you own set up you can use the following: I created a new stack "Untitled 1" and placed a button in it with this script: (watch for line wraps) on mouseUp put "ScreenRect: " & the screenRect into tRec put item 4 of the screenRect into tScrnHt put item 3 of the s

Re: Upgrade to Lion on 15 inch laptop pro forces resize of stacks

William, after some extensive testing of Lion, I conclude that Lion behaves better than Snow Leopard in regard to the available size a stack can take up. I can only surmise that when you upgraded to Lion your Dock settings changed, in particular the default size prior to any magnification effect.

Re: Upgrade to Lion on 15 inch laptop pro forces resize of stacks

Thanks for help with confirmation. I was hoping for a way to tell LiveCode that the stack size I set was "locked" and not to change it regardless of the size of the dock or the size of the screen that the stack is on. If that is not possible than I wish that there were "suggested" stack sizes in th

Re: Upgrade to Lion on 15 inch laptop pro forces resize of stacks

I am on an iMac wiht Lion. ScreenRect returns 0,0,1280,800 Working ScreenRect returns 4,22,1280,800 windowBoundingRect returns 4,74,1280,800 My dock is on the left of the screen so that accounts for the 0/4 in the first item. I assume the top setting of windowboundingrect takes the IDE toolbar

Re: Upgrade to Lion on 15 inch laptop pro forces resize of stacks

Isn't the status field for use by the RunRev team? Still good if multiple people can confrim a problem, I'm just making sure I understand the use of the QCC correctly. Pete lcSQL Software On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 6:02 PM, Kay C Lan wrote: > I see your QCC report is uncon

Re: Upgrade to Lion on 15 inch laptop pro forces resize of stacks

Yeah, there is going to have to be something built in for a future update to address that. Otherwise devs are going to be forced to do geometry management for anything they intend to release, and we all know what a pain that can be. Bob On Jun 13, 2012, at 6:02 PM, Kay C Lan wrote: > As for

Re: Upgrade to Lion on 15 inch laptop pro forces resize of stacks

On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 1:07 PM, Kay C Lan wrote: > > So my guess is that LC takes the working screenRect and reduces your stack > by 86 pixels. > > Whoops, bad math, that should read 84 pixels. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.co

Re: Upgrade to Lion on 15 inch laptop pro forces resize of stacks

On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 10:23 AM, Igor de Oliveira Couto > I can confirm, that I do get quite a large difference - over 70. That, > however, does not seem to be a bug, but rather due to the fact that the > 'working screenRect' on MacOS X takes into consideration not only the space > taken by the m

Re: Upgrade to Lion on 15 inch laptop pro forces resize of stacks

oolish at the same time." (La Rochefoucauld) - Original Message - From: Kay C Lan To: How to use LiveCode Cc: Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 3:02 AM Subject: Re: Upgrade to Lion on 15 inch laptop pro forces resize of stacks William, I see your QCC report is unconfirmed. What you nee

Re: Upgrade to Lion on 15 inch laptop pro forces resize of stacks

On 14/06/2012, at 11:02 AM, Kay C Lan wrote: > You are seeing a 70 pixel difference, and that is what is causing your > problem. > > If other people here test it and they get a 70 pixel difference then the > bug can be confirmed. I can confirm, that I do get quite a large difference - over 70. T

Re: Upgrade to Lion on 15 inch laptop pro forces resize of stacks

William, I see your QCC report is unconfirmed. What you need is people here to do a quick test - sorry I am not at home to test this on my wife's Lion Mac. Anyone with Lion simply needs to type in the msg box: put the working screenrect They should get something back like: 0,22,1920,1196 They t

Re: Upgrade to Lion on 15 inch laptop pro forces resize of stacks

We will probably see a Livecode update that will accommodate it. Just guessing tho'. Bob On Jun 13, 2012, at 11:57 AM, william humphrey wrote: > OK - I reported it is the qacenter. I wonder what is going to happen to our > stacks on the new retina display laptop? Will they be tiny little thin

Re: Upgrade to Lion on 15 inch laptop pro forces resize of stacks

ick > solution I > > can think of is code that resizes all the stacks when I switch between > them > > on the laptop. This is clearly caused by the upgrade to lion as nothing > > else changed and if I boot from leopard the problem goes away. > > __

Re: Upgrade to Lion on 15 inch laptop pro forces resize of stacks

hen I switch between them > on the laptop. This is clearly caused by the upgrade to lion as nothing > else changed and if I boot from leopard the problem goes away. > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Plea

Re: Upgrade to Lion on 15 inch laptop pro forces resize of stacks

tion I can think of is code that resizes all the stacks when I switch between them on the laptop. This is clearly caused by the upgrade to lion as nothing else changed and if I boot from leopard the problem goes away. ___ use-livecode mailing list us

Re: Upgrade to Lion on 15 inch laptop pro forces resize of stacks

On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 7:27 AM, william humphrey wrote: > This is the working screenrect for my mac os laptop pro 0,22,1440,830 > The problem seems to be here, but not sure if it is LC or Lion. You must have a MacBook Pro that has a screen resolution of 1440x900. On SnoLeo the screenrect on my

Re: Upgrade to Lion on 15 inch laptop pro forces resize of stacks

difference). It was something to do with upgrade to Lion as that was the only change I made. So maybe it is something to do with the dock at the bottom of the screen. Didn't have this problem before os Lion. I'm not excited about re-designing all my cards to be shorter. Did you add a menuba

Re: Upgrade to Lion on 15 inch laptop pro forces resize of stacks

Unless I'm missing something, the crux of William's problem is that he simply upgraded to Lion without chaging anything in his application and now his stacks are a differernt height on the same computer, same screen size, no changes to his application. If that's true then either LC is doing someth

Re: Upgrade to Lion on 15 inch laptop pro forces resize of stacks

On 08/06/12 15:15, Jacques Hausser wrote: Le 8 juin 2012 à 01:27, william humphrey a écrit : So maybe it is something to do with the dock at the bottom of the screen. Didn't have this problem before os Lion. I'm not excited about re-designing all my cards to be shorter. You can check it by mov

Re: Upgrade to Lion on 15 inch laptop pro forces resize of stacks

Le 8 juin 2012 à 01:27, william humphrey a écrit : > So maybe it is something to do with the dock at the bottom of the screen. > Didn't have this problem before os Lion. I'm not excited about re-designing > all my cards to be shorter. You can check it by moving the dock on the side (system prefe

Re: Upgrade to Lion on 15 inch laptop pro forces resize of stacks

to do with upgrade to Lion as that was the only change I made. So maybe it is something to do with the dock at the bottom of the screen. Didn't have this problem before os Lion. I'm not excited about re-designing all my cards to be shorter. Did you add a menubar recently? That can scroll

Re: Upgrade to Lion on 15 inch laptop pro forces resize of stacks

This is the working screenrect for my mac os laptop pro 0,22,1440,830 and that is much larger than the stack which is 726 by 780 and the max height is 900 (it was originally the default of 6500 but that seemed to make no difference). It was something to do with upgrade to Lion as that was the

Re: Upgrade to Lion on 15 inch laptop pro forces resize of stacks

t to "no-resize" so I was surprised when my >>> laptops 15 inch monitor, the same one that ran fine before upgrade >>> to Lion, now cuts the stack down to a smaller size even though >>> the original size fit fine on the monitor. >> >> 15" monito

Re: Upgrade to Lion on 15 inch laptop pro forces resize of stacks

resizable. > > The property still exists and can affect rendered size - what is its value? > > >> I have the stack set to "no-resize" so I was surprised when my >> laptops 15 inch monitor, the same one that ran fine before upgrade >> to Lion, now cuts th

Re: Upgrade to Lion on 15 inch laptop pro forces resize of stacks

re upgrade to Lion, now cuts the stack down to a smaller size even though the original size fit fine on the monitor. 15" monitors come in a wide range of resolutions. What is the resolution of your monitor, and what was the original height of the stack? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Li

Re: Upgrade to Lion on 15 inch laptop pro forces resize of stacks

the MaxHeight is only available when the stack is resizable. I have the stack set to "no-resize" so I was surprised when my laptops 15 inch monitor, the same one that ran fine before upgrade to Lion, now cuts the stack down to a smaller size even though the original size fit fine on t

Re: Upgrade to Lion on 15 inch laptop pro forces resize of stacks

william humphrey wrote: Has anyone noticed that the height of stacks is forced back to 735 pixels on MacOS lion on laptop with a stack designed to be 790 pixels high and not resizable? How do we prevent that? How big is your monitor? And what is the value of the stack's maxHeight property? N

Upgrade to Lion on 15 inch laptop pro forces resize of stacks

Has anyone noticed that the height of stacks is forced back to 735 pixels on MacOS lion on laptop with a stack designed to be 790 pixels high and not resizable? How do we prevent that? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please vis

Re: Upgrade to Lion

On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 4:48 PM, Richmond wrote: > > My younger son, who is at a private school in Germany informs me that all > the kids there are buying > new MacBooks with Lion installed; and, the first thing they do is blank > the hard-drive and install Snow Leopard! > > I thought Apple had

Re: Upgrade to Lion

I have been forced to install Lion on a number of management office computers, not because it is better or people like it, but because the department head insists on using iCloud for shared calendaring, and will not consider any other alternative, and Apple will not consider making iCloud availa

Re: Upgrade to Lion

On 06/01/2012 10:15 AM, Paul Looney wrote: Obviously Apple is thinking ahead to the day when all of the Macs will have SSDs. This is a coin whose flip side is that they would obviously not be thinking about their current users whose computers do not. That makes this coin worth zero cents. F

Re: Upgrade to Lion

On May 31, 2012, at 4:17 PM, Kay C Lan wrote: > ... > > By the end the day my wife will have 10-15 apps running, so when I go to > start her computer in the morning to have another play with Lion it takes > forever to get all those apps back up and running and all those windows in > place. My old

Re: Upgrade to Lion

On 06/01/2012 02:31 AM, Bob Sneidar wrote: After reading that article, it reenforces this growing concern that I have that more and more people at Apple are not competent. It feels like after Steve passed that a lot of people who were not getting their way earlier are getting their way now, and

Re: Upgrade to Lion

On 06/01/2012 02:17 AM, Kay C Lan wrote: On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 8:19 PM, Francis Nugent Dixon wrote: And they all "Start Up" and "Shut Down" in record time (now that IS a big advantage !) Are there any other advantages ? I misread this the first time, I thought you were confirming that Lion

Re: Upgrade to Lion

On May 31, 2012, at 4:47 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: > 2 weeks. ;-) Hey Bob, I didn't know that you were an engineer, too! Tim ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subs

Re: Upgrade to Lion

2 weeks. ;-) Bob On May 31, 2012, at 4:35 PM, Peter Haworth wrote: > Thanks Kay, interesting stuff on excluding the TM disk form a backup. > Sounds like even though it's listed to be excluded, it isn't! > > I also found a comment on one of the blog posts indicating how to get rid > of the Spot

Re: Upgrade to Lion

Thanks Kay, interesting stuff on excluding the TM disk form a backup. Sounds like even though it's listed to be excluded, it isn't! I also found a comment on one of the blog posts indicating how to get rid of the Spotlight index file and start over. I'm tempted to try that but wondering how long

Re: Upgrade to Lion

After reading that article, it reenforces this growing concern that I have that more and more people at Apple are not competent. It feels like after Steve passed that a lot of people who were not getting their way earlier are getting their way now, and screwing things up. I am probably just imag

Re: Upgrade to Lion

On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 8:19 PM, Francis Nugent Dixon wrote: > And they all > "Start Up" and "Shut Down" in record time (now that IS a big advantage !) > Are there any other advantages ? > > I misread this the first time, I thought you were confirming that Lion takes forerrr to st

Re: Upgrade to Lion

Richard, Peter, Thank you for your excellent insights, you are both far more knowledgeable in this area than I, so I appreciate learning from you. On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 6:08 AM, Peter Haworth wrote: > > I was hoping you had found something to explain some of my Lion issues in > your comment ab

Re: Upgrade to Lion -- why Valentina has columnar format ...

SQL only creates indexes on the fly in very specific circumstances so most of the time, you'll get a serial scan if your'e selecting on a column that is not indexed. You can use the EXPLAIN QUERY PLAN statement to find out exactly how any given SELECT statement is processed by sqlite. Even if you

Re: Upgrade to Lion

Hi Kay, You raise some interesting theories. For your gps-based system, I would have recommended that you take a look at the sqlite rtree extension which is specifically geared to range-based queries such as gps coordinates. Unfortunately, the version of the sqlite library that is currently embed

RE: Upgrade to Lion - backups

mation Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Tim Jones Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 4:58 PM To: How to use LiveCode Subject: Re: Upgrade to Lion - backups And ... what do yo

Re: Upgrade to Lion - backups

And ... what do you do if part of your failure instance includes a lack of network connectivity? No way back from that one. Just saying... Tim On May 31, 2012, at 1:52 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: > OIC that makes sense then. I priced out some of these online backup systems > like Carbonite, and b

Re: Upgrade to Lion - backups

OIC that makes sense then. I priced out some of these online backup systems like Carbonite, and by the time you pay as much as a 2 tb drive with enclosure would cost, you could have paid for a 5 year subscription to Carbonite. 5 years is as much as you can expect a drive that is used for Time Ma

Re: Upgrade to Lion - backups

bob, alternate drive is for redundancy if a drive were ever to poop out and I keep one off site or in a firesafe if here as well for the theft/fire issue. I learned this thru a friend who had a very redundant backup system. only problem was not good about offsite and there was a fire in the o

Re: Upgrade to Lion -- why Valentina has columnar format ...

On 5/31/12 9:35 PM, "Bob Sneidar" wrote: > Yes, but it is my understanding of SQL that a query on a non-indexed column > will create a temporary index in mySQL and maybe others. I do not think so ... Look. To build index db engine need read all values of column yes? and yet build the whole inde

Re: Upgrade to Lion -- why Valentina has columnar format ...

Yes, but it is my understanding of SQL that a query on a non-indexed column will create a temporary index in mySQL and maybe others. I might be wrong about that. But Foxpro does not do that. In fact if you set a filter or seek using a FOR statement that has no indexed columns or has some non-ind

Re: Upgrade to Lion -- why Valentina has columnar format ...

On 5/31/12 8:14 PM, "Bob Sneidar" wrote: > Foxpro does, but it's slow. You mean that foxpro can do search on column that is not indexed ? Well, of course each db engine can do this. :-) And Valentina, and Light, and mySQL, ... And yes it is much slower than indexed search, I did mean bel

Re: Upgrade to Lion

First time was software, back when I was maintaining a database on an 8086 machine that used EIDE drives (remember that hell?) Second time it was the drive. It went bad and took out the tapes. The person overseeing the backups was getting errors, but didn't tell anyone until the very last tape,

Re: Upgrade to Lion -- why Valentina has columnar format ...

Foxpro does, but it's slow. Bob On May 31, 2012, at 9:57 AM, Ruslan Zasukhin wrote: >> Additionally, the structure of an SQLite DB, particularly the indexing, >> can radically improve performance. > > Not very right. > > Any db have indexing. And relational, and navigational, and columnar.

Re: Upgrade to Lion

Should not need to alternate drives with Time Machine. Bob On May 31, 2012, at 9:36 AM, Jeff Reynolds wrote: > two 2tb external drives and just alternate between them once a week with time > machine. figure if a drive goes worst case is loosing a week. so far they > have zipped along for a w

Re: Upgrade to Lion -- why Valentina has columnar format ...

On 5/31/12 5:47 PM, "Richard Gaskin" wrote: Hi Richard, >> The sql statements were not that complex, just a LOT of toing and froing >> between LC and the db. I soon abandoned SQLite as it was clear that >> Valentina was getting the answers quicker. > > Ruslan's genius is noteworthy, but perhaps

Re: Upgrade to Lion

> On May 30, 2012, at 1:00 PM, use-livecode-requ...@lists.runrev.com wrote: > >> 3 times I had tape backups fail me when I needed them most. I will never, no >> ever, no not ever use tape again. >> >> Bob I can feel your pain as we hear nightmare stories all the time, but I would be willing t

Re: Upgrade to Lion

two 2tb external drives and just alternate between them once a week with time machine. figure if a drive goes worst case is loosing a week. so far they have zipped along for a while now with no issues. of course with murphy's law of backups i have not had to use them as they are effective backup

Re: Upgrade to Lion

That is too bad you paid for Snow Leopard. Apple since has been giving Snow Leopard away to those who upgrade to Lion from Leopard. Perhaps you can get a refund? Bob On May 31, 2012, at 5:19 AM, Francis Nugent Dixon wrote: > Then I spent several days updating my 2 iMacs from OS 1

Re: Upgrade to Lion

I think in a good economy Apple would do that, but in this economy I believe that would be a big risk. It's my humble opinion that Apple is focusing on the big revenue generators and waiting out the "global recession" is what I believe they are still calling it. Bob On May 31, 2012, at 3:57

Re: Upgrade to Lion

Kay C Lan wrote: As for SQLite being ubiquitous on moblie devices, in my own opinion it's due more to it's price, like mySQL and gmail. If people had to pay $5 a month for the privilege I think suddenly the numbers would shift. Just because a billion people do, doesn't mean it's the best. True

Re: Upgrade to Lion

Hi from you know where, Jacqueline wrote : > I really like Time Machine too -- for backups. It's always > running, and it's saved me repeatedly. Same with me, but NEVER, NEVER rename any of your files. If you do, you will never find ye olde file versions. -Francis "Nothing should ever be done

Re: Upgrade to Lion

Hi from Beautiful Brittany, After spending half a day on reading all the "Upgrade to Lion" posts (Oufff !), I have a few comments : 1 - I bought a Macbook Pro portable with Lion, and was driven mad by the problem of scrolling, and the strange trackpad. It took me about a week to

Re: Upgrade to Lion

Jeff, Sorry for the slow reply. I agree, although I didn't suggest it would be an iPad only world. I can see MacBook Airs/Pro, keyboards for input, trackpad/touch screen for manipulation. Who knows, maybe even Siri will immigrate, so all those keyboard shortcuts can be perfomend by Voice - the l

Re: Upgrade to Lion

Peter, Please accept my apology for the slow reply but my access to this List can be sporadic. I'm sure you are more wise than I am in this regard as I've gleaned many SQL tidbits from your posts to this List. As for SQLite being ubiquitous on moblie devices, in my own opinion it's due more to i

Re: Upgrade to Lion

Kay, I'm puzzled by your remark about sqlite below. SQLite is an in-memory database with a very small footprint and I doubt you will find a faster SQL implementation. That's not to say it's perfect for all uses, partuclarly in a multi-user enviornment, but the fact that it's used in abundance on

Re: Upgrade to Lion

That looks like a great product. Pete lcSQL Software On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 11:33 PM, -=>JB<=- wrote: > If you want to find different versions of documents you have backed up > with Time Machine it sounds like you might be able to do it with the > program Back-in-Time 2

Re: Upgrade to Lion

:-) I know the feeling, I lost count of how many times I swore at the tape machines, I'd never go back to tapes. Paul On 2012-05-30, at 8:27 AM, Bob Sneidar wrote: > 3 times I had tape backups fail me when I needed them most. I will never, no > ever, no not ever use tape again. > > Bob > >

Re: Upgrade to Lion

I agree. Even when I was young, and you had to watch out for Dinosaurs crossing the road, I thought the idea of buying a new car every one or two years was preposterous. If I like a car, I will drive it till the engine quits, and even then, if everything else is in good shape, I might just repai

Re: Upgrade to Lion

3 times I had tape backups fail me when I needed them most. I will never, no ever, no not ever use tape again. Bob On May 29, 2012, at 7:27 PM, Tim Jones wrote: > I agree that Time Machine can be a life saver is you have nothing else, but > do have something else - I use BRU and DAT-160 or L

RE: Upgrade to Lion

To: How to use LiveCode Subject: Re: Upgrade to Lion Peter, Totally serious question: When do you switch off that computer controlled traction control??? What are you doing that you need to turn it off? I have to ask because I have this VDC switch in my Pathfinder that I have absolutely no idea what

Re: Upgrade to Lion

Kay, You make some good points here, but there is one thing missing in this ipad only vision. its hard to do a lot of work on an ipad. yes its great to read stuff and do stuff on the fly, but its just not a good productive environment for heavy duty work. ive used the ipad a lot since it has co

Re: Upgrade to Lion

Peter, Totally serious question: When do you switch off that computer controlled traction control??? What are you doing that you need to turn it off? I have to ask because I have this VDC switch in my Pathfinder that I have absolutely no idea what it is or why I would ever need to turn it off.

Re: Upgrade to Lion

I like your points of view, young man ;D Pierre Le 30 mai 2012 à 02:45, Paul Looney a écrit : > Stephen, Jacque, > > You kids and your new toys! > My daily driver is an 1984 MB 300D - with 514,000 miles (830,000 k). Runs > fine, a joy to drive. Would not hesitate to take it again to Maine, or

Re: Upgrade to Lion

If you want to find different versions of documents you have backed up with Time Machine it sounds like you might be able to do it with the program Back-in-Time 2. http://www.tri-edre.fr/download/download/backintime.html -=>JB<=- On May 29, 2012, at 8:28 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > On 5/29/12

Re: Upgrade to Lion

I'm puzzled by this reference to sqlite being slow, I think the second time you've mentioned it. It's an "in memory" database and faster than probably any other SQL implementation. It does indeed have many settings that control cache, etc. As for "industrial strenght" (whatever that means), ther

Re: Upgrade to Lion

r to TimeMachine + TimeCapsule it was a nightmare, now it's a piece of cake, even over the phone. I will admit that I haven't upgraded my own Mac to Lion for a couple of reasons including some relating to negative comments here, but mainly due to a reason that maybe invalid. I'm sure I

Re: Upgrade to Lion

On 5/29/12 7:40 PM, Peter Haworth wrote: Hi Igor, I agree with you on this one. TM has saved me on more than one occasion. Maybe I've just got used to using it and don't notice whatever the problems are that others have referred to. I really like Time Machine too -- for backups. It's always

Re: Upgrade to Lion

Ugh - these are all mine … On May 29, 2012, at 7:27 PM, Tim Jones wrote: > … a life saver if you have nothing else, but I do have something else ... ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubsc

Re: Upgrade to Lion

On May 29, 2012, at 5:30 PM, Igor de Oliveira Couto wrote: > I've noticed some people complaining about Time Machine in this thread. […] > Before the days of Time Machine, we used to have Retrospect in our office, > backing up to external drives. Let me assure you: recovering your lost work >

Re: Upgrade to Lion

Stephen, Jacque, You kids and your new toys! My daily driver is an 1984 MB 300D - with 514,000 miles (830,000 k). Runs fine, a joy to drive. Would not hesitate to take it again to Maine, or Florida, or British Columbia, or Iowa or... any of the other places it's been. I AM (proudly) old and I d

Re: Upgrade to Lion

Hi Igor, I agree with you on this one. TM has saved me on more than one occasion. Maybe I've just got used to using it and don't notice whatever the problems are that others have referred to. Pete lcSQL Software On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 5:30 PM, Igor de Oliveira Couto < i

Re: Upgrade to Lion

I've noticed some people complaining about Time Machine in this thread. On 30/05/2012, at 6:01 AM, François Chaplais wrote: [...] > about time machine: yes, it can be a plague. [...] I have to say, Time Machine has saved my skin twice already. First time, a visiting cousin accidentally droppe

Re: Upgrade to Lion

I've got you beat on that Jacque, my 1988 stick Volvo station wagon is still my favorite car, even though I inherited a 2005 Prius. On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 9:52 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > On 5/29/12 2:22 AM, Kay C Lan wrote: > > I merely tried to use an analogy that people get set in their ways

Re: Upgrade to Lion

My two cents: about the scrolling: first time I got a mac (in '88) I found the way scroll arrows worked totally counter intuitive about time machine: yes, it can be a plague. I recently thought of excluding ~/Library/Caches in the Time machine options and things are definitively better now. IMHO,

Re: Upgrade to Lion

Yeah, I can certainly see that it would be more natural for gestures and/or a trackpad. All I can say is it confused the heck out of me and I'm happy now I'm back to the old way. I use a Kensington mouse on my Mac and I thought for a while it wasn't compatible with Lion. Pete lcSQL Software

Re: Upgrade to Lion

I thought you'd get it! Pete lcSQL Software On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 12:15 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > On 5/29/12 12:29 PM, Peter Haworth wrote: > >> But I can switch it off if I want to >> do things where I would rather it wasn't in control (don't ask!). >> > > Exactly th

Re: Upgrade to Lion

They made the change because it's more like moving the page with your finger on the iPad/iPhone. You want the page to move up - you flick up, move down, flick down. This is the exact opposite of the old scrollwheel way where you moved the scrollbar thumb, not the contents. Also, once you get t

Re: Upgrade to Lion

On 5/29/12 12:29 PM, Peter Haworth wrote: But I can switch it off if I want to do things where I would rather it wasn't in control (don't ask!). Exactly the point. That's what Apple should have done. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software

Re: Upgrade to Lion

Yes, I think the problme is with the mouse wheel. At the risk of being accused of being to set in my ways, why did Apple change this? It made me feel seasick! Pete lcSQL Software On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 12:04 PM, Colin Holgate wrote: > I use trackpad full time, and th

Re: Upgrade to Lion

I use trackpad full time, and the new way feels fine. I think with a mouse wheel it would be a little more confusing. On May 29, 2012, at 2:23 PM, dunb...@aol.com wrote: > >I am not near my Lion machine, but I believe the fix is in the > >"trackPad/mouse" pane of system preferences, under eith

Re: Upgrade to Lion

PS The setting is in the mouse Prefs, uncheck "Move Contenet in the direction of finger movement" to get back to the old way. Pete lcSQL Software On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 11:36 AM, Peter Haworth wrote: > Hah! So the scroll direction DID change! That's been driving me cr

Re: Upgrade to Lion

d/mouse" pane of system preferences, under either "scroll and zoom" > or "point and click". Make it not "natural". > > > Craig > > > > -Original Message- > From: Peter Haworth > To: How to use LiveCode > Sent: Tue, May 29

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m preferences, under either "scroll and zoom" or "point and click". Make it not "natural". Craig -Original Message- From: Peter Haworth To: How to use LiveCode Sent: Tue, May 29, 2012 1:30 pm Subject: Re: Upgrade to Lion I bought a new car recently. I

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I bought a new car recently. It has automatic transmission so it decides when to shift gears. Except that there's a mode where I can use it like manual transmission and control when the gear shifts happen. It also has computer controlled traction control. But I can switch it off if I want to do

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J. Landman Gay wrote: On 5/29/12 2:22 AM, Kay C Lan wrote: I merely tried to use an analogy that people get set in their ways, especially the longer they have been using something. I hope I haven't offended any Hot Rodders, as that was not my intent either. I'm an old hot-rodder. I kept my 17

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That was just a scam our parents conned us into. We all fell for it. Now they AND our children are laughing at us! ;-) Bob On May 29, 2012, at 9:52 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > I'm getting used to being old. Sort of. Now I'm waiting for respect for the > aged to kick in. :) _

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On 5/29/12 2:22 AM, Kay C Lan wrote: I merely tried to use an analogy that people get set in their ways, especially the longer they have been using something. I hope I haven't offended any Hot Rodders, as that was not my intent either. I'm an old hot-rodder. I kept my 17-year-old car until a f

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