an ignored breakpoint

2012-09-01 Thread Dr. Hawkins
Saw another one just now. A loop ends: end switch put ", " & theField & "=" & theDat after updStr --if theFIeld="due" then exit repeat end repeat breakpoint if isDna then If I don't have the breakpoint, but instead reddot the "if isdna", the breakpoint is ignored. --

Re: an ignored breakpoint

2012-09-02 Thread Kay C Lan
On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 1:24 AM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: > > If I don't have the breakpoint, but instead reddot the "if isdna", the > breakpoint is ignored. > IMO the red dots are like the Geometry Manager - to be avoided because they are flaky. I've never had the debugger ignore a specifically writte

Re: an ignored breakpoint

2012-09-02 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 12:07 AM, Kay C Lan wrote: > IMO the red dots are like the Geometry Manager - to be avoided because they > are flaky. YEah, but they can be added to a running script. >I've never had the debugger ignore a specifically written > 'breakpoint' in a script, so that's what I A

Re: an ignored breakpoint

2012-09-03 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 9/1/12 12:24 PM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: Saw another one just now. A loop ends: end switch put ", " & theField & "=" & theDat after updStr --if theFIeld="due" then exit repeat end repeat breakpoint if isDna then If I don't have the breakpoint, but instead reddot

Re: an ignored breakpoint

2012-09-03 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 9/2/12 11:31 AM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 12:07 AM, Kay C Lan wrote: IMO the red dots are like the Geometry Manager - to be avoided because they are flaky. YEah, but they can be added to a running script. I almost never need to insert a breakpoint command, so your mileag

Re: an ignored breakpoint

2012-09-04 Thread Bernard Devlin
I've almost never used the "breakpoint" command; it's too cumbersome (or I'm too lazy). However, I've seen a pattern to reddot breakpoints being ignored. Once a script has run through with a reddot, on a subsequent run the reddot is ignored (unless the script is re-saved between executions). So,

Re: an ignored breakpoint

2012-09-04 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 9/4/12 8:05 AM, Bernard Devlin wrote: However, I've seen a pattern to reddot breakpoints being ignored. Once a script has run through with a reddot, on a subsequent run the reddot is ignored (unless the script is re-saved between executions). I only see that if the script has been edited b

Re: an ignored breakpoint

2012-09-04 Thread Peter Haworth
I'm surprised by the number of problems people are reporting with the debugger. Not to say I've never had any but they are now few and far between. The one thing I do see consistently is ignoring a red dot breakpoint in preOpenCard. Most of the time a hard coded breakpoint works, but not always.

Re: an ignored breakpoint

2012-09-04 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 9/4/12 11:14 AM, Peter Haworth wrote: I'm surprised by the number of problems people are reporting with the debugger. Not to say I've never had any but they are now few and far between. The one thing I do see consistently is ignoring a red dot breakpoint in preOpenCard. Most of the time a h

Re: an ignored breakpoint

2012-09-04 Thread Bob Sneidar
I have had the debugger ignore a specifically written 'breakpoint' in a script some time ago, but it was a bug and has since been fixed. Bob On Sep 2, 2012, at 12:07 AM, Kay C Lan wrote: >> If I don't have the breakpoint, but instead reddot the "if isdna", the >> breakpoint is ignored. >> >

Re: an ignored breakpoint

2012-09-05 Thread Kay C Lan
On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 12:14 AM, Peter Haworth wrote: > I'm surprised by the number of problems people are reporting with the > debugger. > Since using 'breakpoint' exclusively I've not experienced any problems with the debugger; but then again I don't think I've ever used mouseLine or mouseChar

Re: an ignored breakpoint

2012-09-05 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 9/5/12 8:09 PM, Kay C Lan wrote: I do miss the Trace option we used to have, and because of that I do liberally sprinkle 'breakpoint' throughout my code. I could have 6-12 breakpoints across half a dozen handlers/functions across a 1000 lines of code. I couldn't imagine finding and resetting

Re: an ignored breakpoint

2012-09-05 Thread Kay C Lan
On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 9:31 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > > One thing I like a lot about the red dots is that you can remove all of > them from all scripts with a single menu item selection "Clear all > breakpoints". Very handy. > If I want to test my scripts without ANY breakpoints I simply turn O

Re: an ignored breakpoint

2012-09-06 Thread Ben Rubinstein
On 06/09/2012 02:09, Kay C Lan wrote: I could have 6-12 breakpoints across half a dozen handlers/functions across a 1000 lines of code. I couldn't imagine finding and resetting all of those, just to ensure they worked, if I used 'red dots' instead. On 06/09/2012 04:45, Kay C Lan wrote:> One thi

Re: an ignored breakpoint

2012-09-06 Thread Peter Haworth
There's certainly a need to set "markers" of various sorts in scripts and the best tool to do this is Bill Vlahos' lcTaskList, available on the RunRev store for $10. Pete lcSQL Software On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 1:26 AM, Ben Rubinstein wrote: > On 06/09/2012 02:09, Kay C

Re: an ignored breakpoint

2012-09-06 Thread Bob Sneidar
Another thing to watch out for is setting breakpoints with variable values. This in the past would crash LC. I'm not sure if they fixed it yet. I was crashing all the time once and thought it was a really unstable build, until I realized I had set and forgot about a variable watch point. Bob

Re: an ignored breakpoint

2012-09-07 Thread Kay C Lan
Ben, Thanks for the pointer. No I certainly didn't know about the Breakpoint tab - well for some strange reason it doesn't do anything for hard coded breakpoints, when I click on the Tab it comes up empty so I guess I've occasionally clicked on it and have come away assuming it's telling me nothin

Re: an ignored breakpoint

2012-09-07 Thread Ben Rubinstein
On 07/09/2012 09:13, Kay C Lan wrote: Clearly I need to wean myself back to using the occasional Red Dot. LiveCode - an ever-increasing number of ways to skin each cat. Ben ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit thi

Re: an ignored breakpoint

2012-09-09 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 12:51 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: > Another thing to watch out for is setting breakpoints with variable values. > This in >the past would crash LC. I'm not sure if they fixed it yet. I was crashing all >the time >once and thought it was a really unstable build, until I realized

Re: an ignored breakpoint

2012-09-09 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 1:47 AM, Ben Rubinstein wrote: > LiveCode - an ever-increasing number of ways to skin each cat. -- The Hawkins Law Firm Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. (702) 508-8462 hawkinslawf...@gmail.com 3025 S. Maryland Parkway Suite A Las Vegas, NV 89109 ___

Re: an ignored breakpoint

2012-09-10 Thread Bob Sneidar
Let us be thankful that most of us live in a place unlike Africa, where the cats can skin us! On Sep 9, 2012, at 5:14 PM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: >> LiveCode - an ever-increasing number of ways to skin each cat. > > None of which, however, yield a happy cat . . . __

Re: an ignored breakpoint

2012-09-10 Thread Kay C Lan
Lets be thankful Revolution has progressed to LiveCode. I don't think I skinned any cats with 1.1. On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 12:49 AM, Bob Sneidar wrote: > Let us be thankful that most of us live in a place unlike Africa, where > the cats can skin us! > > On Sep 9, 2012, at 5:14 PM, Dr. Hawkins wr

Re: an ignored breakpoint

2012-09-12 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 7:48 PM, Kay C Lan wrote: > Lets be thankful Revolution has progressed to LiveCode. I don't think I > skinned any cats with 1.1. I skinned a lot with Hypercard 1 & 2, and Supercard 1.5, though . . . and if either SuperCard or Revolution had come out by early 94 for the pc,