Re: mouse pointer hot spot is way off

2015-08-20 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 8:37 AM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: > On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 2:53 PM, Peter Haworth wrote: > >> There's pretty persuasive evidence now that the shadowed variable bug is >> caused by stopping a debug run early. >> > > I'll watch for that, then. But it absolutely has to go; it co

Re: mouse pointer hot spot is way off

2015-08-19 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 2:53 PM, Peter Haworth wrote: > There's pretty persuasive evidence now that the shadowed variable bug is > caused by stopping a debug run early. > I'll watch for that, then. But it absolutely has to go; it costs me at least several minutes, and sometimes a full hour, out

Re: mouse pointer hot spot is way off

2015-08-17 Thread Peter Haworth
There's pretty persuasive evidence now that the shadowed variable bug is caused by stopping a debug run early. Since I trained myself to let debug run to the end of its natural course, I have not seen the problem. Hopefully that will help the team figure out the cause and fix it. On Mon, Aug 17,

Re: mouse pointer hot spot is way off

2015-08-17 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 9:17 AM, Devin Asay wrote: > I have seen this and can reproduce it reliably. On a Mac, if you have two > monitors (or more I suppose), and you open a script editor window, it > initially opens on the same screen as your LiveCode IDE; on the "main > screen” as determined by

Re: mouse pointer hot spot is way off

2015-08-17 Thread Mark Talluto
> On Aug 17, 2015, at 1:12 PM, Dar Scott mailto:d...@swcp.com>> > wrote: > > Mark wrote, >> Could be related to bug: http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15366 >> >> >

Re: mouse pointer hot spot is way off

2015-08-17 Thread Dar Scott
Mark wrote, > Could be related to bug: http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15366 > I wonder if it is related to bug that existed at one time where one couldn’t drag a LiveCode window on a second monitor above the top of the main monitor.

Re: mouse pointer hot spot is way off

2015-08-17 Thread Dar Scott
Yay! That’s it. Second monitor with top above the main monitor with LiveCode window top above the same thing. This might be a bad fix for another bug, the one that blocks a stack from going higher than the tool bar. I know how it is about having work to get done and repeating little worka

Re: mouse pointer hot spot is way off

2015-08-17 Thread Mark Talluto
> On Aug 17, 2015, at 9:17 AM, Devin Asay wrote: > > >> On Aug 15, 2015, at 8:37 AM, Dar Scott wrote: >> >> Hi, I’m an old-timer who has been away from the list for a while. >> >> I’ve run into a problem and I think it is a LiveCode problem but it might be >> an OS X problem or some combina

Re: mouse pointer hot spot is way off

2015-08-17 Thread Devin Asay
> On Aug 15, 2015, at 8:37 AM, Dar Scott wrote: > > Hi, I’m an old-timer who has been away from the list for a while. > > I’ve run into a problem and I think it is a LiveCode problem but it might be > an OS X problem or some combination. > > I’m using 6.7.5. > > Very often the hot spot i

Re: mouse pointer hot spot is way off

2015-08-15 Thread Dar Scott
Didn’t work a when it came up again. I must have done something else. > On Aug 15, 2015, at 4:12 PM, Dar Scott wrote: > > I think I tried what you said. And afterward things are better. > > In the message box I put > set the cursor to watch > then > set the cursor to arrow > > I went back

Re: mouse pointer hot spot is way off

2015-08-15 Thread Dar Scott
I think I tried what you said. And afterward things are better. In the message box I put set the cursor to watch then set the cursor to arrow I went back to the editor and it was working right. Maybe I did something else, so I’ll have to see if this routine keeps working when this comes up.

Re: mouse pointer hot spot is way off

2015-08-15 Thread Dar Scott
Now the editor is acting up and I’m getting about 8, -61 in that corner. My situation is the same as Richards. It is a fixed vertical offset throughout the time of misbehavior, but I’m not sure whether that fixed amount changes a little from episode to episode or from stack to stack. For m

Re: mouse pointer hot spot is way off

2015-08-15 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 1:04 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > That might be a clue. Retina screens have a different resolution. Maybe > the engine's calcs are off. > When this bites, the error is a fixed amount. Move the mouse three dots down, and the point it clicks seems to be three down. It also

Re: mouse pointer hot spot is way off

2015-08-15 Thread Dar Scott
I don’t have the retina for Retina. My Mac’s don’t have it. So, in my case, that is not a factor. I tried to make a mouseMove test. Unfortunately, I did something that fixed it. I’m not sure, but I think the first mouseMove message fixed it. But, it could have been random or the recompilin

Re: mouse pointer hot spot is way off

2015-08-15 Thread Dar Scott
I have a stack that’s doing it. The mouseLoc is like 1, 2, essentially 0,0, in that corner. For the editor I get something like 27,-9 (menu?), but I’m not currently having trouble with the editor. In the stack that has trouble, I have to click well below an option menu, but I select normall

Re: mouse pointer hot spot is way off

2015-08-15 Thread Colin Holgate
A quick test here looks ok, just as precise on my internal Retina screen and my external non-Retina monitor. One thing you could try is to Get Info on LiveCode, and check the box that says Open in Low Resolution. See if that changes anything. > On Aug 15, 2015, at 4:04 PM, J. Landman Gay wrot

Re: mouse pointer hot spot is way off

2015-08-15 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 8/15/2015 2:25 PM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 8:58 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: I haven't seen it yet. Are those who have seen it using a third-party mouse? I usually see it on the internal trackpad of a macbook retina That might be a clue. Retina screens have a different

Re: mouse pointer hot spot is way off

2015-08-15 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 8:58 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > I haven't seen it yet. Are those who have seen it using a third-party > mouse? I usually see it on the internal trackpad of a macbook retina -- Dr. Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. (702) 508-8462 __

Re: mouse pointer hot spot is way off

2015-08-15 Thread J. Landman Gay
In addition to the tests that Mike suggested, it would be interesting to see what you get back if you ask for the mouseloc in the message box when you see the problem. Put the cursor up near the 0,0 point of the editor so you have a visual reference. I do like the term "Gatsby bug." :) On 8/

Re: mouse pointer hot spot is way off

2015-08-15 Thread Mike Bonner
makes me wonder.. There are several ways the cursor can change shape while in use. I wonder if the ball gets dropped somewhere along the way. I've seen my cursor get stuck occasionally in the "pane resize" mode, though I can't reliably reproduce it. When this occurs its nearly always in the editor

Re: mouse pointer hot spot is way off

2015-08-15 Thread Dar Scott
It doesn’t feel like a 3rd party mouse issue to me, but that is only because the problem is limited to LiveCode stack content. (I have a Macally EcoMouse hooked up at the moment.) This occurs in the content of some LiveCode windows. I don’t think I’ve ever seen it outside of that. It most

Re: mouse pointer hot spot is way off

2015-08-15 Thread Mike Bonner
If its a bluetooth mouse, you might disconnect, and reconnect it and see if the problem goes away. Or try a wired mouse for a bit and see if it works better. I think I also read somewhere that turning off wifi for a min, then back on can reset the connection to a bluetooth mouse. (some shared hard

Re: mouse pointer hot spot is way off

2015-08-15 Thread J. Landman Gay
On August 15, 2015 9:58:45 AM CDT, "Dr. Hawkins" wrote: >On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 7:37 AM, Dar Scott wrote: > >> Very often the hot spot is off, usually about 50-100 pixels high, for >one >> or more windows in the IDE. I usually notice it in the editor where >it is >> off by 3 lines. Almost alwa

Re: mouse pointer hot spot is way off

2015-08-15 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 7:37 AM, Dar Scott wrote: > Very often the hot spot is off, usually about 50-100 pixels high, for one > or more windows in the IDE. I usually notice it in the editor where it is > off by 3 lines. Almost always it is just vertical. > I see this on a regular basis in 7.

mouse pointer hot spot is way off

2015-08-15 Thread Dar Scott
Hi, I’m an old-timer who has been away from the list for a while. I’ve run into a problem and I think it is a LiveCode problem but it might be an OS X problem or some combination. I’m using 6.7.5. Very often the hot spot is off, usually about 50-100 pixels high, for one or more windows in