I chanced across this Chinese page:
http://www.doc88.com/p-249589799307.html
It has the entire PDF of my book. I'll report it to the publisher (though I
doubt they'll have the power to do much about it), but thought some of you
might be interested to look it over. You can decide for yourself if
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Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 13:26:45 -0400
From: Colin Holgate
To: How to use LiveCode
Subject: pirate version of my book...
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I chanced across this Chinese page:
http://www
On 08/31/2012 08:26 PM, Colin Holgate wrote:
I chanced across this Chinese page:
http://www.doc88.com/p-249589799307.html
It has the entire PDF of my book. I'll report it to the publisher (though I
doubt they'll have the power to do much about it), but thought some of you
might be interested
On 8/31/12 12:26 PM, Colin Holgate wrote:
I chanced across this Chinese page:
http://www.doc88.com/p-249589799307.html
It has the entire PDF of my book.
That didn't take long, did it.
Even though I know this happens routinely, it still pisses me off.
--
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It doesn't bother me too much, I doubt that many of the potential users of the
book would find that page. I mean, if you discount the fact that I just emailed
the link to a lot of them! I did report it, and it seems the publisher does
have an anti-piracy department.
_
On 08/31/2012 08:37 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:
On 8/31/12 12:26 PM, Colin Holgate wrote:
I chanced across this Chinese page:
http://www.doc88.com/p-249589799307.html
It has the entire PDF of my book.
That didn't take long, did it.
Even though I know this happens routinely, it still pisses me
On 08/31/2012 08:50 PM, Colin Holgate wrote:
It doesn't bother me too much, I doubt that many of the potential users of the
book would find that page. I mean, if you discount the fact that I just emailed
the link to a lot of them! I did report it, and it seems the publisher does
have an anti-p
On 8/31/12 1:49 PM, Richmond wrote:
On 08/31/2012 08:37 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:
On 8/31/12 12:26 PM, Colin Holgate wrote:
I chanced across this Chinese page:
http://www.doc88.com/p-249589799307.html
It has the entire PDF of my book.
That didn't take long, did it.
Even though I know this
The way I look at it, finding a pirated copy of your software out
there on the Internet is the ultimate compliment. :)
SKIP
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 2:56 PM, J. Landman Gay
wrote:
> On 8/31/12 1:49 PM, Richmond wrote:
>>
>> On 08/31/2012 08:37 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:
>>>
>>> On 8/31/12 12:26 PM
On 08/31/2012 10:03 PM, Magicgate Software - Skip Kimpel wrote:
The way I look at it, finding a pirated copy of your software out
there on the Internet is the ultimate compliment. :)
Yes, it can be seen as that; but when somebody else is actually making
money out of your work
that could be
I have had many commercial titles stolen over the years. In addition,
my wife is a well known graphics artist (www.CreativeDust.com) and is
ALWAYS getting her stuff stolen; appears in other people books, apps,
websites, etc. It is so hard to fight that we finally gave up. In
the end, there is re
The thieves are so bad in the Seattle-Tacoma area they took
years of software I developed and it was never even put on
the market or given to anyone for ant reason. It included my
business and personal records too.
If you are not rich the FBI do not care and neither does any
one else for that mat
I have the real thing and am happy to have paid you for it. It clearly took a
lot of work to put this together. You deserve recompense.
On Aug 31, 2012, at 1:26 PM, Colin Holgate wrote:
> I chanced across this Chinese page:
>
> http://www.doc88.com/p-249589799307.html
>
> It has the entire P
On 08/31/2012 10:13 PM, Magicgate Software - Skip Kimpel wrote:
I have had many commercial titles stolen over the years. In addition,
my wife is a well known graphics artist (www.CreativeDust.com) and is
ALWAYS getting her stuff stolen; appears in other people books, apps,
websites, etc. It is
I looked at a few pages, liked what I saw, and bought it.
Content creators should be paid for their work.
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On 8/31/12 2:13 PM, Magicgate Software - Skip Kimpel wrote:
I have had many commercial titles stolen over the years. In addition,
my wife is a well known graphics artist (www.CreativeDust.com) and is
ALWAYS getting her stuff stolen; appears in other people books, apps,
websites, etc. It is so h
This will probably not cheer you up; but I found
versions of the FREE version of my Devawriter available on torrent sites.
Oh man! I *hate* that.
According to RIAA accounting, you're out *millions*...maybe even >billions<.
-Ken
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Was it the Chinese government that pirated the book?? Man, you sure get noticed
by the big dogs! ;-)
On Aug 31, 2012, at 11:52 AM, Richmond wrote:
> On 08/31/2012 08:50 PM, Colin Holgate wrote:
>> It doesn't bother me too much, I doubt that many of the potential users of
>> the book would find
A kind of complimentary gobsmack in the face eh?
On Aug 31, 2012, at 12:07 PM, Richmond wrote:
> On 08/31/2012 10:03 PM, Magicgate Software - Skip Kimpel wrote:
>> The way I look at it, finding a pirated copy of your software out
>> there on the Internet is the ultimate compliment. :)
>>
>>
>
The issue is worse than you can imagine. For one thing my
business records being tampered with or stolen is a federal
offense and so is stealing my software.
You say they were using it without paying me which is true
but they had all of my code and this was very sophisticated
software. That is a
People get away with a lot of crimes these days because of the petty nature of
the crime. It goes to illustrate I think that old saying by one of the founding
fathers of America John Adams, "Our Constitution was made only for a moral and
religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the governmen
On 2012-08-31, at 10:26 AM, Colin Holgate wrote:
> I chanced across this Chinese page:
Funny how the page has a © Copyright notice at the bottom. :-/ What they would
do if someone ripped off their stuff.
Please I paid for my copy.
Paul
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I wouldn't be too hard on the FBI. They only have so much resources, so
cyber-crimes causing less than a certain amount of damage to a company or
individual don't even show up on their radar until (used to be) $5000 or more,
and even then they can only investigate something like 5% of those!
B
On 8/31/12 3:44 PM, -=>JB<=- wrote:
You say you lost money because your app was released. I
lost my code and business records. The app to be stolen
after it is released is not as bad as stealing it and your code
when nobody had legal access to it such as buying it.
You're right. That's horri
The FBI are fact collectors and felt it was okay to release
private info about Steve Jobs they collected while at the
same time ignoring national security threats I told them
about.
http://www.generalcuestar.com/news/index/jobs_fbi_files.html
They have the facts because I made sure to file it in
The problem is many are being held captive and are
forced to comply with their captors. It is seen in many
ways in society including forcing them to isolate select
people from society.
The good point is we have reached a breaking point &
people who are involved are sickened by the crimes
they and
disturbing to
say the least.)
Sincerely,
- Boo
Gulf Breeze, Florida
P.S. Amazon got the book here fast!
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From: Colin Holgate
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 12:50 PM
To: How to use LiveCode
Subject: Re: pirate version of my book...
It doesn't bother me too mu
A few years ago, my band played a festival in Shanghai. You can't sell CDs
over there for more than $3-$4. I think the second night we were there, we
went to the huge market there that sells knockoffs of Rolex watches, Tommy
Bahamas shirts, etc, etc and found our CD on sale for $1. We were kinda
Thanks for that! I actually don't mind about the pirate version, I didn't write
the book thinking I would make much money from doing that. It was more to help
me learn things for myself, and the experience of writing a book.
On Aug 31, 2012, at 4:22 PM, Jim Kanter wrote:
> >I looked at a few
On 31/08/2012 23:03, Colin Holgate wrote:
Thanks for that! I actually don't mind about the pirate version, I didn't write
the book thinking I would make much money from doing that. It was more to help
me learn things for myself, and the experience of writing a book.
Talking about money
I bought a couple of variations, including the iBooks and Kindle ones, and I
think generally I like the iBooks one more.
On Aug 31, 2012, at 7:48 PM, Alex Tweedly wrote:
> in the UK , the iBooks version (which I bought yesterday) costs £16.99
> the Kindle version (which I *shou
I bought the PDF version, read it on my pc, uploaded it to my dropbox and
now have it on my Mac! I shot my pc with my .45. ;)
To bad the pirated copy doesn't have the license/copyright information,
buyer name, buyer address, and purchase date like my copy does. At least
then you'd have a place
Hi Colin,
Sorry to hear that. It's one of the big problems with printing in PDF.
Still, my guess is you lost only a few sales, as most who would pirate
wouldn't pay for it anyway. There are some PDF fullfillment which can print
a watermark on each page of the email address with which the PDF was
p
FWIW, the pirated version DID remind me to go to Packt Publishing and
purchase your book!
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 9:28 PM, Chipp Walters wrote:
> Hi Colin,
>
> Sorry to hear that. It's one of the big problems with printing in PDF.
> Still, my guess is you lost only a few sales, as most who would
On Sat, Sep 1, 2012 at 1:26 AM, Colin Holgate wrote:
> I'll report it to the publisher (though I doubt they'll have the power to
> do much about it)
>
Unfortunately they are probably the cause.
My guess is the hard copies of the book were printed in China, in which
case the digital copy that wa
. Admittedly they did
not ask to have it written, but now it is, surely they could take advantage
and help you at the same time?
Peter
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Thanks for the info. I'm still not really too bothered or worried, I'm much
more worried that someone finds the book useful, even if they are a pirate!
As for Rev, they are already in touch with the publisher to talk about ways in
which to promote the book.
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Colin,
Sorry for the sad story and experience we all have to mind about. The
"PacktLib" version of your great book lies behind on my iPad Stanza viewer all
along the mobile dev days. A so useful reference book to anyone who need to
short up its LiveCode mobile learning curve. Thanks for having
On 09/01/2012 09:26 PM, Pierre Sahores wrote:
Colin,
Sorry for the sad story and experience we all have to mind about. The
"PacktLib" version of your great book lies behind on my iPad Stanza viewer all
along the mobile dev days. A so useful reference book to anyone who need to short up its
Li
Yep.
Two days after releasing my app on the Google Play store, it showed up
on adroidpit.com for sale. Of course, at 130% of the cost on the
android store...and without any chance of us making any money off it.
If I didn't love making software, I wouldn't be doing it (I'd likely be
stealing
Le 1 sept. 2012 à 20:37, Richmond a écrit :
> On 09/01/2012 09:26 PM, Pierre Sahores wrote:
>> Colin,
>>
>> Sorry for the sad story and experience we all have to mind about. The
>> "PacktLib" version of your great book lies behind on my iPad Stanza viewer
>> all along the mobile dev days. A so
On Sat, Sep 1, 2012 at 12:08 PM, Ken Corey wrote:
>
> I'm going to write a very sternly worded letter to my parents about
> instilling a sense of justice, misguided though it may be.
My parents and the Jebbies . . .
I had the mistiming to be raised in Silicon Valley but at just about
the exact m
On 09/01/2012 11:32 PM, Dr. Hawkins wrote:
On Sat, Sep 1, 2012 at 12:08 PM, Ken Corey wrote:
I'm going to write a very sternly worded letter to my parents about
instilling a sense of justice, misguided though it may be.
My parents and the Jebbies . . .
I had the mistiming to be raised in Sili
Richmond:
Maybe you find your adopted country enchanting, and its people honest and
real, as I sense you have a mission of duty, service and goodness that is
underneath your expressive and somewhat crusty exterior. Your
self-depreciating comments aside, in my view, you have true integrity.
On Sat,
Richmond-
Saturday, September 1, 2012, 1:45:47 PM, you wrote:
> Would anyone like to hear why somebody who doesn't know when and how
> to keep his mouth shut and his opinions to himself is running a
Some of us have more sense than money...
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Is there any advice you can offer now to protect against a similar loss?
Would an encrypted hard drive or some other tech solution have helped?
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I'm sure it's as someone suggested, that the file sent to the printers got
copied. That file would of course not have any encryption on it, it has to be
printable. Any of the files going from me to the publisher were Word files,
that looked radically different to the final layout, so the copy ca
On 9/1/12 2:08 PM, Ken Corey wrote:
Yep.
Two days after releasing my app on the Google Play store, it showed up
on adroidpit.com for sale. Of course, at 130% of the cost on the
android store...and without any chance of us making any money off it.
Mine's there too, and it looks like it's a mir
lar loss?
> Would an encrypted hard drive or some other tech solution have helped?
>
> -- Tom Bodine
>
>
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colinhe
your mail prompted me to go buy the book from packt online. the ebook is
quite affordable here in india by the way.
thanks for writing it.
arul
On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 6:45 AM, Colin Holgate wrote:
> I'm sure it's as someone suggested, that the file sent to the printers got
> copied. Th
ave hit a
sweet spot. There must be some way to exploit it with a Rev + Manual
package directed at the people who are downloading the book, and are now in
want of an IDE to go with it!
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On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 4:45 AM, Richmond wrote:
>
> Would anyone like to hear why somebody who doesn't know when and how
> to keep his mouth shut and his opinions to himself is running a
> hole-in-the-wall EFL
> school in a country "at the bottom of the sack" when he could have been
> something 'g
On 09/02/2012 12:00 AM, stephen barncard wrote:
Richmond:
Maybe you find your adopted country enchanting, and its people honest and
real, as I sense you have a mission of duty, service and goodness that is
underneath your expressive and somewhat crusty exterior. Your
self-depreciating comments as
On 9/2/12 2:18 AM, Peter Alcibiades wrote:
Meanwhile, what's really interesting about the scale of piracy of Colin's
book is that people see such a demand for it. Its a real compliment in a
way, and the more the links proliferate, the more of a compliment it is.
I don't think we can correlate
Real numbers will be hard to come by obviously, but androidpit seems to
claim that they provide for those in eastern europe and russia (and
maybe down into the far east for all I know), as they claim to have set
up deals with merchant providers in those countries.
Android pit seem to be workin
When immoral behavior becomes common, profitable, and more or less anonymous,
it is no longer generally regarded as immoral. If the victim is distant
stranger, or an abstraction, like a corporation, the sense of immorality
diminishes further.
When people find hundred dollar bills lying around o
On 09/02/2012 10:00 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:
On 9/2/12 2:18 AM, Peter Alcibiades wrote:
Meanwhile, what's really interesting about the scale of piracy of
Colin's
book is that people see such a demand for it. Its a real compliment in a
way, and the more the links proliferate, the more of a co
On 09/02/2012 10:16 PM, Ken Corey wrote:
Real numbers will be hard to come by obviously, but androidpit seems
to claim that they provide for those in eastern europe and russia (and
maybe down into the far east for all I know), as they claim to have
set up deals with merchant providers in those
On 09/02/2012 10:17 PM, Timothy Miller wrote:
My son's behavior gives me pain.
That's what children are for; to cause their parents pain.
Meanwhile, maybe we should zoom out and look at the bigger picture. About sixteen percent of the
world's population consumes 80% of its resources. This
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I have always had an inkling that the best way to beat piracy is
1) to give users a reason to keep contacting you (regularly upgraded
content/capabilities).
2) making it /easy/, even automatic in your app, to contact you.
Both of which Runrev has gotten fairly right, at least for those of us
o
On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 3:17 AM, Timothy Miller <
gand...@doctortimothymiller.com> wrote:
>
> My 24 year old son has a normal conscience ... His conscience is entirely
> silent on these topics. He thinks I'm weird because I prefer to pay for the
> music I listen to.
>
> Oh, then he could join the F
Tim,
sorry to hear this about your son. I went back and taught at my old high school
in the early 2000s when mp3 were hitting the fan and copying on the computer
was getting rampant and just the thing kids growing up with as normal. I was
teaching multimedia and since i was also producing it my
Thanks for sharing this, Jeff
Le 3 sept. 2012 à 19:39, Jeff Reynolds a écrit :
> Tim,
>
> sorry to hear this about your son. I went back and taught at my old high
> school in the early 2000s when mp3 were hitting the fan and copying on the
> computer was getting rampant and just the thing kids
The crumbling away of human values under the influence of exchange
mechanisms leads to the crumbling of exchange itself. The
insufficiency of the feudal gift means that new human relationships
must be built on the principle of pure giving. We must rediscover the
pleasure of giving: giving because y
On 03/09/2012 21:52, Andrew Kluthe wrote:
discovers the pure gift. The growing passion for stealing books,
clothes, food, weapons or jewelry simply for the pleasure of giving
them away gives us a glimpse of what the will to live has in store for
consumer society.
Right!
Uh...
Unless human nat
With a little hard work, anyone can make themselves feel victimized
and alienated by anything.
On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 3:59 PM, Ken Corey wrote:
> On 03/09/2012 21:52, Andrew Kluthe wrote:
>>
>> discovers the pure gift. The growing passion for stealing books,
>> clothes, food, weapons or jewelry s
You're right.
My favourite way to feel victimised is for evil, cruel, hard people to
throw wads of money at me.
Doesn't happen often enough, frankly.
*grin*
-Ken
On 03/09/2012 22:19, Andrew Kluthe wrote:
With a little hard work, anyone can make themselves feel victimized
and alienated by a
They say everything has a price.
On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 4:24 PM, Ken Corey wrote:
> You're right.
>
> My favourite way to feel victimised is for evil, cruel, hard people to throw
> wads of money at me.
>
> Doesn't happen often enough, frankly.
>
> *grin*
>
> -Ken
>
>
> On 03/09/2012 22:19, Andrew
On Sep 3, 2012, at 5:36 PM, Andrew Kluthe wrote:
> They say everything has a price.
Especially money.
Not that I'm unwilling to pay that price, up to a point.
-- Peter
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You shouldn't have done that!
A 9 mil would have worked just fine...
On Aug 31, 2012, at 6:14 PM, Shawn Blc wrote:
> I bought the PDF version, read it on my pc, uploaded it to my dropbox and
> now have it on my Mac! I shot my pc with my .45. ;)
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See? You and I are a LOT alike!
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On Sep 1, 2012, at 1:45 PM, Richmond wrote:
> Would anyone like to hear why somebody who doesn't know when and how
> to keep his mouth shut and his opinions to himself is running a
> hole-in-the-wall EFL
> school in a country "at the bottom of the sack" when
I hate to say it, but all this makes a good argument for phone-home
authentication.
Bob
On Sep 2, 2012, at 12:00 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:
>> Meanwhile, what's really interesting about the scale of piracy of Colin's
>> book is that people see such a demand for it. Its a real compliment in a
>
I think people have to feel put out themselves before they "get it". It says
something about the base nature of humans as they now stand. I remember as a
kid bringing home something I found laying in the front yard of someone's home.
When my father saw it, he stopped up short, and asked, "Where
Oh dear! I guess I haven't read enough of the book. Is that one of the
instructions?
I *knew* Colin was a closet Mac-lover.
*grin*
-Ken
On 01/09/2012 02:14, Shawn Blc wrote:
I bought the PDF version, read it on my pc, uploaded it to my dropbox and
now have it on my Mac! I shot my pc with
Availability would equate to supply.
On Sep 2, 2012, at 2:17 PM, Peter Alcibiades wrote:
> Understand that availability is not the same as demand.
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Snip snip. I think the best we can do as responsible adults is first to set an
example in our own lives, and then to express the principles which guide us in
life. Eventually people will make their own choice about what kind of person
they want to be. We hope as many as possible will choose to b
Yes true, but when you try and teach, you need to reach your students in ways
they can grasp and understand. With this understanding comes the tools to
understand greater things and build higher. in this case its the ability to not
just learn a rule, but to understand the rule and thus be able t
Yes, not disagreeing with you, just making the point that we will never get all
people to change the way they think. But you are right about "putting someone
else's shoes on their feet" so to speak. It's the best lesson of all.
Bob
On Sep 4, 2012, at 10:30 AM, Jeff Reynolds wrote:
> Yes true
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