Re: which Linux?

2012-07-05 Thread Bob Sneidar
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Re: which Linux?

2012-07-05 Thread Bob Sneidar
OS X is all UNIX now, so that was included in the statement. I suppose I overstated the case. Yes it's only a problem with files coming from somewhere else, but that is what I frequently deal with as an IT administrator. Most people will not see the issue. Still, I think Apple should have

Re: which Linux?

2012-07-04 Thread Peter Alcibiades
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Re: which Linux?

2012-07-04 Thread Peter Alcibiades
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Re: which Linux?

2012-07-04 Thread Peter W A Wood
Colin On 4 Jul 2012, at 03:37, Colin Holgate wrote: I also haven't figured out how to get files from my Mac to Linux, VirtualBox doesn't support drag and drop. I tried setting a share folder, but don't know where in the Linux interface to find the shared folder. Try this: 1. Install

Re: which Linux?

2012-07-04 Thread Mark Wieder
Peter- Wednesday, July 4, 2012, 12:18:31 AM, you wrote: Try this: 1. Install Virtual Box Guest Additions ... and make sure they're the right version. If you update the VirtualBox version you also need to load a new version of the extensions. 2. Make sure they are loaded 3. Set up the

Re: which Linux?

2012-07-04 Thread Mark Wieder
Peter- Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 11:59:06 PM, you wrote: Needing to change executability is very very rare, because of course all application installations are being done through the package manager. Livecode apps are different in this respect. Presumably when people package their Livecode

Re: which Linux?

2012-07-03 Thread stephen barncard
Richard, which desktop do you prefer, MATE or Cinnamon? On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 6:29 AM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.comwrote: Colin Holgate wrote: For just the purposes of showing how LiveCode apps can work on Linux, which one should I use? For development, obviously Ubuntu

Re: which Linux?

2012-07-03 Thread Richard Gaskin
stephen barncard wrote: On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 6:29 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: For development, obviously Ubuntu simply because it's the largest audience by far. But for demo, I would suggest Linux Mint. It's based on Ubuntu and very easy to use, with a pleasant UI that folks tend to like

Re: which Linux?

2012-07-03 Thread Richmond
On 07/03/2012 09:09 PM, stephen barncard wrote: Richard, which desktop do you prefer, MATE or Cinnamon? I'm not 'Richard' (But Gaskin is), but I work extensively with Linux, and for my work (i.e. at my EFL school) I use the GNOME 'Classic' with Avant Window Navigator, and at home, both my

Re: which Linux?

2012-07-03 Thread Richmond
On 07/03/2012 09:19 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: stephen barncard wrote: On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 6:29 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: For development, obviously Ubuntu simply because it's the largest audience by far. But for demo, I would suggest Linux Mint. It's based on Ubuntu and very easy to

Re: which Linux?

2012-07-03 Thread stephen barncard
um - what I meant was - if one were recommending Linux Mint, which desktop would one choose.MATE or Cinnamon? What is better supported and works well with Livecode? Those distributions are what is offered at MINT I'm corn-fused*. I didn't want to start an environmental war. **Homer and

Re: which Linux?

2012-07-03 Thread Colin Holgate
I installed Linux Mint/Maya, which installed ok, and seems to run (this is under VirtualBox on my Mac), but I haven't found a way to quit VirtualBox. When you do that it attempts to shut down the virtual machine, and that never success. Which means I have to force quit VirtualBox, and the next

Re: which Linux?

2012-07-03 Thread Colin Holgate
I got around the difficulty of sharing files by putting the test files onto a server that I could log onto with Linux. What should the name be for a Linux LiveCode standalone? It came out named as untitled 1 with no extension, an dLinux thought that was a document. I tried renaming it to be

Re: which Linux?

2012-07-03 Thread Bob Sneidar
I don't think the extension matters, try .app, but you probably have to set the execute bit. Bob On Jul 3, 2012, at 1:11 PM, Colin Holgate wrote: I got around the difficulty of sharing files by putting the test files onto a server that I could log onto with Linux. What should the name be

Re: which Linux?

2012-07-03 Thread Warren Samples
On 07/03/2012 03:11 PM, Colin Holgate wrote: I got around the difficulty of sharing files by putting the test files onto a server that I could log onto with Linux. What should the name be for a Linux LiveCode standalone? It came out named as untitled 1 with no extension, an dLinux thought that

Re: which Linux?

2012-07-03 Thread Colin Holgate
Is that not something that LiveCode ought to do, when making the standalone? How in Linux would I do that? On Jul 3, 2012, at 4:16 PM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote: I don't think the extension matters, try .app, but you probably have to set the execute bit.

Re: which Linux?

2012-07-03 Thread Warren Samples
On 07/03/2012 03:22 PM, Colin Holgate wrote: How in Linux would I do that? One way, right-click the file and select the permissions pane in the dialog and check the box. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit

Re: which Linux?

2012-07-03 Thread Colin Holgate
All the options in Permissions are grayed out. It says the owner is root. On Jul 3, 2012, at 4:20 PM, Warren Samples war...@warrensweb.us wrote: It doesn't have or need an extension. Make sure its permissions include is executable. ___

Re: which Linux?

2012-07-03 Thread Warren Samples
On 07/03/2012 03:22 PM, Colin Holgate wrote: How in Linux would I do that? Oh, I skipped something... select Properties and then permissions... ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe,

Re: which Linux?

2012-07-03 Thread Warren Samples
On 07/03/2012 03:30 PM, Colin Holgate wrote: It says the owner is root. If you change it to your user, does it ask for authentication or tell you it won't allow that? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this

Re: which Linux?

2012-07-03 Thread Bob Sneidar
Are you compiling in Windows? I don't think the file system supports an executable bit, but have a look at this: http://blog.lesc.se/2011/11/how-to-change-file-premissions-in-git.html Bob On Jul 3, 2012, at 1:22 PM, Colin Holgate wrote: Is that not something that LiveCode ought to do, when

Re: which Linux?

2012-07-03 Thread Colin Holgate
I got further by copying the files from the server to the desktop, then I could check the box that says allow this file to run as a program. But double clicking it leads to a failed to execute file test - Failed to execute child process /home/mint/Desktop/LinuxTest/test (No such file or

Re: which Linux?

2012-07-03 Thread Warren Samples
On 07/03/2012 03:30 PM, Colin Holgate wrote: All the options in Permissions are grayed out. It says the owner is root. Open a terminal and type: sudo chown your user path to file Replace your user with your user's name. Type the root password at the prompt. Should do it. Good luck,

Re: which Linux?

2012-07-03 Thread Warren Samples
On 07/03/2012 03:42 PM, Colin Holgate wrote: I got further by copying the files from the server to the desktop, then I could check the box that says allow this file to run as a program. But double clicking it leads to a failed to execute file test - Failed to execute child process

Re: which Linux?

2012-07-03 Thread Colin Holgate
I installed 64 bit. Are LiveCode apps only 32 bit? ldd tells me that it's not a dynamic executable. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences:

Re: which Linux?

2012-07-03 Thread Warren Samples
On 07/03/2012 03:58 PM, Colin Holgate wrote: I installed 64 bit. Are LiveCode apps only 32 bit? ldd tells me that it's not a dynamic executable. Yes, that's your current problem. You'll have to install the ia32 libs. Do an update first. Installing these libs was a pain for me in Maya,

Re: which Linux?

2012-07-03 Thread Colin Holgate
Before you sent this I already found this online: sudo apt-get install ia32-libs so I'm giving that a go. On Jul 3, 2012, at 5:01 PM, Warren Samples war...@warrensweb.us wrote: Yes, that's your current problem. You'll have to install the ia32 libs. Do an update first. Installing these libs

Re: which Linux?

2012-07-03 Thread Colin Holgate
Maybe I'm not giving it a go after all, Linux locked up near the end of the adding of the libs. I can't even move or select windows. I guess I'll force quit it, and download the 32 bit version. Thanks for the help. ___ use-livecode mailing list

Re: which Linux?

2012-07-03 Thread Roger Eller
On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 5:08 PM, Colin Holgate wrote: Maybe I'm not giving it a go after all, Linux locked up near the end of the adding of the libs. I can't even move or select windows. I guess I'll force quit it, and download the 32 bit version. Thanks for the help. 32-bit will always be

Re: which Linux?

2012-07-03 Thread Bob Sneidar
And can I say, after over 20 years of IT experience that the unix/linux file permissions are as inane a thing as I think I have ever seen? Really? They want end users to have to edit the permissions for all the files they create?? In a TERMINAL??? Really? Bob On Jul 3, 2012, at 1:42

Re: which Linux?

2012-07-03 Thread Bob Sneidar
This is another one of those principles I have applied to IT. If you don't really, really need 64 bit apps and OS, avoid it until you cannot avoid it anymore. By that time hopefully everyone in the computer world will pretty much have their act together. Windows is only just getting there, and

Re: which Linux?

2012-07-03 Thread Richard Gaskin
Bob Sneidar wrote: And can I say, after over 20 years of IT experience that the unix/linux file permissions are as inane a thing as I think I have ever seen? Really? They want end users to have to edit the permissions for all the files they create?? In a TERMINAL??? Really? True, Mac

Re: which Linux?

2012-07-03 Thread J. Landman Gay
Bob Sneidar wrote: And can I say, after over 20 years of IT experience that the unix/linux file permissions are as inane a thing as I think I have ever seen? OS X permissions are identical. Really? They want end users to have to edit the permissions for all the files they create?? In a

Re: which Linux?

2012-07-03 Thread Peter Haworth
Good to know... Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 10:00 PM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.comwrote: If you build a Mac OS X standalone on Windows, it comes over to the Mac without the executable bit set too. You can use terminal to set it.

which Linux?

2012-07-02 Thread Colin Holgate
I'm going to demo LiveCode to colleagues on Thursday, and one point I want to make is about how cross platform it is. I can show Mac, Windows, iOS, and Android, but I'm not set up for showing Linux. For just the purposes of showing how LiveCode apps can work on Linux, which one should I use?

Re: which Linux?

2012-07-02 Thread Roger Eller
On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 9:22 PM, Colin Holgate wrote: I'm going to demo LiveCode to colleagues on Thursday, and one point I want to make is about how cross platform it is. I can show Mac, Windows, iOS, and Android, but I'm not set up for showing Linux. For just the purposes of showing how

Re: which Linux?

2012-07-02 Thread Richmond
On 07/03/2012 04:22 AM, Colin Holgate wrote: I'm going to demo LiveCode to colleagues on Thursday, and one point I want to make is about how cross platform it is. I can show Mac, Windows, iOS, and Android, but I'm not set up for showing Linux. For just the purposes of showing how LiveCode