menu woes...

2004-12-29 Thread Howard Bornstein
I rarely think to set up menus at the beginning of stack development, but I've learned with Rev that I save myself a *lot* of grief if I automatically create the default menus with the Menu Builder tool right at the beginning of a project. This places the menu group in the stack, scrolls the stack

Re: menu woes...

2004-12-29 Thread Chipp Walters
Paul, Very good point indeed. In fact, IMO, the documentation is the most critical component which needs 'help' in the IDE. More than once, I've found myself going back to a previous version of Rev to access the old stack-based documents. I really like what Monte has done with the XML approach,

Re: menu woes...

2004-12-29 Thread Chipp Walters
Alex, You might want to check out MagicCarpet for version controlling your stacks (if you haven't). It works as a plugin inside Rev. It allows you to save notes on different versions and roll back to previous versions. It doesn't do a diff/merge (yet). www.altuit.com/webs/altuit2/MagicCarpetCove

Re: menu woes...

2004-12-29 Thread Chipp Walters
Frank Leahy wrote: I think the Windows menu bar should be a separate object in the window, that is not attached to the "content" area. This would mean that a window was comprised of the window titlebar (on Mac and PC), the window menu bar (on PC only), and the window content area (on Mac and

Re: menu woes...

2004-12-29 Thread Chipp Walters
Paul, Did you see my earlier post on how to keep your main stack from resizing at all? best, Chipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stacks without substacks also have the resizing problem. I solved it on mine, not by adjusting the menubar size (although I did that, too) but by resizing the stacks in an

Re: menu woes...

2004-12-29 Thread Chipp Walters
Jeanne, With all due respect and credit to your amazing documentation, I could find no discussion of how to keep from auto-downsizing a stack when using MacOSX menubars. Now that I know how simple it is to do this: 1) set the editmenus of the stack to true 2) hide the menu group It makes menus a

questions about recording audio

2004-12-29 Thread Richard Gaskin
Three questions about recording audio: > 1. Support for new compressors? The recordCompressorTypes property returns a list of available compressors that includes items (like MPEG-4) which are not shown in the "answer record" dialog. Since the "answer record" command calls QT to bring up its dial

Re: CGI Failures --lineoffset

2004-12-29 Thread Ken Ray
On 12/29/04 11:13 PM, "Sivakatirswami" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > set the linedelimiter to numtoChar(10) Did you try: set the lineDel to numToChar(13) ?? I've had issues with line delimitereds under CGI scripts... Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Emai

Re: Menu woes

2004-12-29 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 12/29/04 7:12 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What we have now has carried us a long way but menus via externals would solve some of the problems and offer more flexibility. You don't really mean "externals" as in "dll/bundle/XCMD" do you? Please say you mean something else. If you think this m

CGI Failures --lineoffset

2004-12-29 Thread Sivakatirswami
I'm getting failures of certain functions when running script(s) as a cgi either on under apache/Darwin engine or Linux/Linux Engine, that work perfectly fine from within the IDE under OSX with 2.5. (engine version I'm running on darwin is returning MC 2.5 while under my IDE in OSX I'm gettin

Re: getting the Real name of CDs from RR

2004-12-29 Thread Ken Ray
On 12/29/04 9:10 PM, "Alejandro Tejada" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How could i get the real name of a CD from > RR in Windows? You could switch to that drive and get a "dir" under shell(); the first line says "Volume in drive is ", and you can parse it from that. Something like this: on mous

getting the Real name of CDs from RR

2004-12-29 Thread Alejandro Tejada
Hi developers, I'm building a file cataloging and comparation tool with RR. I'm having a problem to identify the real name of the CDs that i want to create a catalog. I could get the letter that identifies the device: For example E:/ or D:/ But CDs always have a name like: NEW_CD or BK_DIC04 H

Re: menu woes...

2004-12-29 Thread Richard Gaskin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stacks without substacks also have the resizing problem. I solved it on mine, not by adjusting the menubar size (although I did that, too) but by resizing the stacks in an openStack handler. What's the recipe for reproducing this? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Co

Re: Random Name Generator

2004-12-29 Thread James Cass
Robert - Ken just showed you how easy it is to get things done with Rev. If you wanted to try your exercise another way, just for understanding the programmatic steps needed to get your result, you could break it down like this (this code goes in the script of Ken's "Go" button): on mouseUp

Re: menu woes...

2004-12-29 Thread SimPLsol
Stacks without substacks also have the resizing problem. I solved it on mine, not by adjusting the menubar size (although I did that, too) but by resizing the stacks in an openStack handler. Paul Looney ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lis

Re: menu woes...

2004-12-29 Thread Richard Gaskin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In a message dated 12/29/04 16:51:27, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > ...my complaint in not really with the documentation. > If menus could be implemented in a more reliable way, > LESS documentation would be required. Aside from the issue Jacque identified in bug #744, what

Re: menu woes...

2004-12-29 Thread Richard Gaskin
Mark Wieder wrote: Richard- Wednesday, December 29, 2004, 8:29:36 AM, you wrote: RG> So if you encounter any menuing issues that don't fit the recipe RG> described in Bug #744, please do as Chipp did: post it here, folks will RG> look it over and provide a recommendation for a solution. RG> I can't

Re: menu woes...

2004-12-29 Thread SimPLsol
In a message dated 12/29/04 16:51:27, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > taxonomy > Richard, I agree with you that a good taxonomy for the current documentation would help. My experience with Rev. is that there is good intermediate help and good advanced help but weak beginning help. Even Dan's boo

Menu woes

2004-12-29 Thread SimPLsol
Richard Gaskin wrote: What do you propose? Good question! 1. Keep the good stuff. Although it causes half of the menu problems, I think it is important to continue having a cross-platform solution. Building menus with buttons may not be the best way to accomplish this. What we have now has

Re: menu woes...

2004-12-29 Thread Alex Tweedly
Richard Gaskin wrote: That was resolved by another Frank (Mr. Frank D. Roosevelt): "There's nothing to fear but fear itself." When faced with the option to chose between experimenting on a backup to see what happens or not doing so out of fear, experimentation will yield more useful results. I

Re: menu woes...

2004-12-29 Thread Richard Gaskin
Dar Scott wrote: On Dec 29, 2004, at 5:29 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Frank Leahy wrote: The current hidden group implementation is fraught with problems. For example, I want to change the font to something larger than the default, but I don't dare for fear of doing something that will never be c

Re: menu woes...

2004-12-29 Thread Richard Gaskin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeanne, Many smart people have posted to this list with stack resizing problems after adding menus to a stack used on OS X. The documentation does cover how menus are supposed to work. While doc recommendations are perhaps better served through the RevDocs group at

Re: menu woes...

2004-12-29 Thread Dar Scott
On Dec 29, 2004, at 5:29 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Frank Leahy wrote: The current hidden group implementation is fraught with problems. For example, I want to change the font to something larger than the default, but I don't dare for fear of doing something that will never be correctable. Which

Re: menu woes...

2004-12-29 Thread Richard Gaskin
Frank Leahy wrote: The current hidden group implementation is fraught with problems. For example, I want to change the font to something larger than the default, but I don't dare for fear of doing something that will never be correctable. Which font? The stack, the menu group, or individual me

Re: menu woes...

2004-12-29 Thread Frank Leahy
On Dec 30, 2004, at 12:02 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Subject: Re: menu woes... To: How to use Revolution Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, documentation is just a stopgap measure; Until the "Getting Sta

Re: menu woes...

2004-12-29 Thread SimPLsol
Jeanne, Many smart people have posted to this list with stack resizing problems after adding menus to a stack used on OS X. The documentation does cover how menus are supposed to work. About six months ago I showed you a group of stacks on which I was having the resizing problem; we eventua

Re: menu woes...

2004-12-29 Thread Richard Gaskin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > However, documentation is just a stopgap measure; Until the "Getting Started" info is restored it's a rather large gap. ;) > what is really needed is an easier, more reliable > way of handling menus in Rev. What do you propose? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corpo

Re: Random Name Generator

2004-12-29 Thread Ken Ray
On 12/29/04 2:20 PM, "Robert Sabo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey Everyone, > > I just joined this group. Seems pretty cool. Hey, Robert... welcome! > Well here's my problem. I am trying to make a program that will allow you to > input however many names you want into a list. This list will

Re: Problem with field borderwidth 2

2004-12-29 Thread Dar Scott
On Dec 29, 2004, at 2:06 PM, Wilhelm Sanke wrote: Has anybody else noticed this or can verify my observation? I don't see this on OS X or XP with Revolution 2.5. I should clarify. I made some fields with 3D turned off and a border of 2. I set the left and right so that I thought they should butt.

Re: Random Name Generator

2004-12-29 Thread James . Cass
Welcome to the RevList, Robert! You'll find a lot of great help from this list. I studied Turbo Pascal when I was in college, and that was 20 years ago (literally)! Maybe you can turn your teacher on to Revolution and use it to teach basic programming ideas. Good luck with your studies! -Jam

Problem with field borderwidth 2

2004-12-29 Thread Wilhelm Sanke
A stack developed with Metacard 2.5 contains several rows of adjacent fields - with the default borderwidth of 2 when the stack was created. The adjacent fields are placed relative to each other in such a way that the borders form smooth vertical and horizontal lines between the fields, giving

Re: Random Name Generator

2004-12-29 Thread Klaus Major
Hi Robert, Hey Everyone, I just joined this group. Seems pretty cool. Well first let me fill you in with a little background info. I am a sophmore you are a what? Do you mean "sophomore"? ;-) in highschool. I am taking a computer programming class however we use a dinosour program called Turbo Pa

Re: menu woes...

2004-12-29 Thread Chipp Walters
On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 2:19 pm, Mark Wieder wrote: Well, this may be an issue of semantics. "Planning for it" means leaving enough space at the top of a stack so that when it scrolls on the Mac none of the data will be hidden. I like the substack idea, though, and I may come back to revisit this some

Security Warning - Publisher

2004-12-29 Thread Derek Bump
Does anyone know how to change the "Author" and "Publisher" on the security warning that pop's up on WinXP SP2? Derek Bump Dreamscape Software Compress Images Easily with JPEGCompress http://www.dreamscapesoftware.com __

Random Name Generator

2004-12-29 Thread Robert Sabo
Hey Everyone, I just joined this group. Seems pretty cool. Well first let me fill you in with a little background info. I am a sophmore in highschool. I am taking a computer programming class however we use a dinosour program called Turbo Pascal. Some of the features (functions, commands etc)

Re: menu woes...

2004-12-29 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 12/29/04 1:56 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Jacque- Tuesday, December 28, 2004, 9:46:44 PM, you wrote: JLG> I don't think it is really broken as such. Once I understood how it JLG> works, menu behavior started to make sense. You just have to account for JLG> the scrolling behavior on Macs and plan for

Re: menu woes...

2004-12-29 Thread Mark Wieder
Jacque- Tuesday, December 28, 2004, 9:46:44 PM, you wrote: JLG> I don't think it is really broken as such. Once I understood how it JLG> works, menu behavior started to make sense. You just have to account for JLG> the scrolling behavior on Macs and plan for it. I haven't noticed any JLG> blank s

Re: menu woes...

2004-12-29 Thread Mark Wieder
Richard- Wednesday, December 29, 2004, 8:29:36 AM, you wrote: RG> So if you encounter any menuing issues that don't fit the recipe RG> described in Bug #744, please do as Chipp did: post it here, folks will RG> look it over and provide a recommendation for a solution. RG> I can't guarantee that

Re: menu woes...

2004-12-29 Thread Jeanne A. E. DeVoto
At 11:59 AM -0500 12/29/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I suppose it is fine that Rev. Gurus, with years of experience, can wrestle the menus to submission - especially is they know undocumented features. But, admit it, they are a newbe nightmare. Better documentation would help (especially if i

Re: more SQL problems

2004-12-29 Thread Trevor DeVore
On Dec 29, 2004, at 10:02 AM, docmann wrote: You folks are fantastic! It works exactly as intended now. :) Geesh, I still don't know how I got so far off track in attempting this and clearly need to revisit the documentation. :( On a side note, I intentionally entered data that I knew did not exis

Re: more SQL problems

2004-12-29 Thread docmann
You folks are fantastic! It works exactly as intended now. :) Geesh, I still don't know how I got so far off track in attempting this and clearly need to revisit the documentation. :( On a side note, I intentionally entered data that I knew did not exist, just to see what would happen and got a

Re: Random Code

2004-12-29 Thread SimPLsol
Viper, on mouseUp global RandNum put RandNum into fld "Output" end mouseUp I'd recommend a standard rectangular field for Output. Use a scrolling field only if you need to keep a list of the numbers chosen. Paul Looney ___ use-revolution mai

Re: more SQL problems

2004-12-29 Thread Frank D. Engel, Jr.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Oops, yeah, I missed the quotes thing in my example here, too: on mouseUp put field "mySearch" into x replace "'" with "''" in x put revQueryDatabase(dbID, field "CurrSQL" & " '" & x & "'") into q if q is not a number then answer error "Data

Re: more SQL problems

2004-12-29 Thread Trevor DeVore
On Dec 29, 2004, at 8:09 AM, docmann wrote: RevButton Named "Search" on mouseUp put field "CurrSQL" into tSQLStringPartOne put field "mySearch" into tSQLStringPartTwo put tSQLStringPartOne & " " & tSQLStringPartTwo into tSQLQuery get revDataFromQuery(,,dbID,tSQLQuery,"tMyResults") end mouse

Re: more SQL problems

2004-12-29 Thread Frank D. Engel, Jr.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 revDataFromQuery does not use the revDatabaseColumnNamed function -- that works quite differently. You want the revQueryDatabase function instead. Try this: on mouseUp put revQueryDatabase(dbID, field "CurrSQL" & field "mySearch") into q if q is

Re: menu woes...

2004-12-29 Thread SimPLsol
Richard, I suppose it is fine that Rev. Gurus, with years of experience, can wrestle the menus to submission - especially is they know undocumented features. But, admit it, they are a newbe nightmare. Better documentation would help (especially if it included a troubleshooting section addr

Re: menu woes...

2004-12-29 Thread Richard Gaskin
Mark Wieder wrote: As far as I know, there's no easy way out. Menuing is just broken. You have a choice: have extra blank space at the top of your Windows app; do without OSX system menus; or have two separate builds. There's another option: identify the root cause of the issue and correct it. Men

RE: resize in browse mode

2004-12-29 Thread Lynch, Jonathan
I reworked the earlier script I posted to include Ken Ray's approach to adjusting the rect of the field, rather than adjusting the size and then the position. His approach is smoother and more efficient. (Thanks Ken) So... the following script still does these things... 1) if you right-click on

more SQL problems

2004-12-29 Thread docmann
Hello folks, I've been trying to resolve a problem on my own off and on for several days and just can't seem to get my head wrapped around it all. Even worse, now with so many attempts and errors under my belt, I have finally reached the point of almost total confusion. :( Let's say that I have a

Re: menu woes...

2004-12-29 Thread FlexibleLearning
All excellent advice. One more for the pot... Keep menubars in a substack. That way they are taken out of any geometry problems, are easily applied as a shared resource for multiple substacks, and editing is all in one place. 2c. /H ___ use-revo

Re: Oversize cards and jumping between 9 not-overlapping card-windows

2004-12-29 Thread Frank D. Engel, Jr.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Create a stack with the nine cards in it. Place the buttons where you want them on each card, then as the script for each of the buttons use something like this: on mouseUp go to card "Card Name" end mouseUp For a fancy transition, use the "visual

Re: Geometry

2004-12-29 Thread Mark Smith
Thankyou, Alex and Chipp, that's got me started. Mark Smith ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution

Re: Random Code

2004-12-29 Thread Mark Smith
try : put RandNum into fld "Output" Cheers, Mark On 29 Dec 2004, at 15:10, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: reply field"Output" with RandNum ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution

Re: programming

2004-12-29 Thread Paul Salyers
At 01:17 AM 12/29/2004, you wrote: >Anyone here interested din programming for me in Rev? Possibly. More details would be nice; what do you need done, is there any chance of money changing hands, and so on... ___ Email me personally to find out the de

Oversize cards and jumping between 9 not-overlapping card-windows

2004-12-29 Thread Kresten Bjerg
As non-commercial developer of a freeware diary program I want to test the logical possibility of having cards the size of 9 screen-windows, and buttons for jumping to any of the 8 windows surrounding the central window - and of course buttons to return to center window. Is there a simple solu

Random Code

2004-12-29 Thread Robert Sabo
Hello Everyone I was just wondering if anyone could help me with this. I am working on creating a program that randomly ouputs a number from 1-55. I have everything done except I cannot get it to print how I want it to. I made a scrolling field and a button. here is the button code <--

RE: Dealing with empty groups...

2004-12-29 Thread Lynch, Jonathan
But, using a group as a building block for a more complex object, it would be useful if there was a setting that allowed them to be accessed like other objects. Also, empty groups shouldn't trap mouseclicks. The suggested workarounds will work fine, of course - it is more just a matter of convenien

Re: Database Doldrums

2004-12-29 Thread Frank D. Engel, Jr.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 There is no specific Rev command to do a Join, that is a function of your database server, and you only use a single database ID. Are you using the database library calls directly, rather than the "Database" properties things (which I could never get

Re: resize a card to full screen size

2004-12-29 Thread Frank D. Engel, Jr.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Also make sure you look at the 'hide menubar' and 'show menubar' commands. On Dec 28, 2004, at 5:43 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: Recently, Paul Salyers wrote: How do you make a program open up in full screen size whether your using 640X480, 800X600, 1600X1

Database Doldrums

2004-12-29 Thread John Miller
Greeetings All, I have been working with our company's databases using ODBC and have been amazed at how powerful and FAST Revolution is. Yesterday, I started a new project where I need to JOIN information from 2 different tables, and I am stymied. I understand how to write the SQL command line,

Re: Dealing with empty groups...

2004-12-29 Thread Dave Cragg
On 28 Dec 2004, at 16:57, Lynch, Jonathan wrote: If I have to use a transparent object - then I can just put any object that does not interfere with the layering of other objects into the group, and that will allow the group to pass the mouseup message. It doesn't have to be a transparent object. A

Data-Only Bundle?

2004-12-29 Thread Scott Rossi
Is there such a thing as a data-only bundle on OSX? I'm asking because I want to deliver "single file" modules (text and image files) for my app that can be selected from the answer file dialog. Currently I've taken a folder of files, added a ".bundle" suffix to it, and can load it as expected fro