Re: true newbie

2005-03-14 Thread Sarah Reichelt
Hi John, Welcome to the Revolution! I am a true newbie, not just to revolution, but to programming. I was looking into having a somewhat simple ( I think ) software application developed and thought maybe instead I should take the time to learn how to do it myself. Especially since I have more t

Re: cursor effects

2005-03-14 Thread Scott Morrow
Ben, Thanks for posting that stack. I don't know what I'll use it for yet but I suspect one of these days it will be just the training ground I need! -Scott On Mar 13, 2005, at 5:52 PM, Ben Fisher wrote: I posted a couple of cursor effects to my RevOnline user space. If you want to know how to

true newbie

2005-03-14 Thread John Smiley
I am a true newbie, not just to revolution, but to programming. I was looking into having a somewhat simple ( I think ) software application developed and thought maybe instead I should take the time to learn how to do it myself. Especially since I have more time than money and enjoy learning ho

Re: Poll: the sum(7,9)

2005-03-14 Thread Mark Swindell
To clarify: 7 and 9 were arbitrary numbers. It could have been any two single digit addends. I didn't mean to focus on the manipulating the 9 factor. 3 and 5, 6 and 8, what process do you use to instantly know, or are there calculations involved? Mark On Mar 14, 2005, at 8:38 PM, Mark Swind

Re: logic of having a background within a background: radio buttons

2005-03-14 Thread Dar Scott
On Mar 14, 2005, at 7:31 PM, Erik Hansen wrote: logic of having a background within a background: radio buttons require grouping Perhaps, it's best to think of only the outer group as the background. Dar -- ** DSC (Dar Scott Consulting & Dar's Lab)

Re: error saving standalones in 2.5.1

2005-03-14 Thread Dan Shafer
We've seen one other thing cause this. Under some conditions, if you already have a folder of the name of the app in the directory where you're trying to build the new one, Rev will choke rather than overwrite. This isn't 100% repeatable and I suspect there's also something about the folder/app

Re: Poll: the sum(7,9)

2005-03-14 Thread Sarah Reichelt
It's this: How do you mentally process simple addition/subtraction facts? What actually happens in your brain to elicit 16 when you hear 7+9? (for example) Why do I ask? Three adults I asked today: #1: I visually see 7 fingers and 9 fingers and move one finger from the 7 to the 9 to make 10,

Poll: the sum(7,9)

2005-03-14 Thread Mark Swindell
I've got a question I'd be interested in hearing from as many of the list as care to respond. It's this: How do you mentally process simple addition/subtraction facts? What actually happens in your brain to elicit 16 when you hear 7+9? (for example) Why do I ask? Three adults I asked today:

Re: Problems placed grouped groups

2005-03-14 Thread Ken Ray
On 3/14/05 9:12 PM, "Robert Brenstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On 3/14/05 6:38 PM, "Robert Brenstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> What is the logic of having a background within a background? Is this >>> supported? What would be the message passing? >> >> Well, technically speaking

Re: Problems placed grouped groups

2005-03-14 Thread Robert Brenstein
On 3/14/05 6:38 PM, "Robert Brenstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: What is the logic of having a background within a background? Is this supported? What would be the message passing? Well, technically speaking, having a "background" (i.e. a group with backgroundBehavior=true) inside another "back

Re: Problems placed grouped groups

2005-03-14 Thread Geoff Canyon
Also OS X 10.3.8 and Rev 2.5.1. Engine 2.6.2 BuildNumber 73 Created a new stack placed three buttons placed two fields grouped the buttons selected the new group and the two fields and grouped them Opened Navigator selected the button group and showed properties named the group "bob" set the group'

Way, Way OT: How Revolution Can Make Billions

2005-03-14 Thread Dan Shafer
This just in, courtesy of the Guardian Online (a UK newspaper/blog): Nintendo big boy Satoru Iwata has announced his firm's next generation console, codenamed "Revolution". OK, so here's what RR do. They lie in the weeds until Ninetendo release this puppy and then sue their game paddles off, the

Re: error saving standalones in 2.5.1

2005-03-14 Thread Sarah Reichelt
I've recently upgraded from 2.2.1 to 2.5.1. I develop on my iMac, running the latest OS X. Since upgrading, I've lost the ability to save standalones, both for OS X and for Win32. I get the error: An error occurred while saving the standalone application. I apologize if this is a repeat pos

logic of having a background within a background: radio buttons

2005-03-14 Thread Erik Hansen
logic of having a background within a background: radio buttons require grouping Hrik Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.erikhansen.org __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

error saving standalones in 2.5.1

2005-03-14 Thread Stephen McNutt
I've recently upgraded from 2.2.1 to 2.5.1. I develop on my iMac, running the latest OS X. Since upgrading, I've lost the ability to save standalones, both for OS X and for Win32. I get the error: An error occurred while saving the standalone application. I apologize if this is a repeat pos

Re: Using sockets

2005-03-14 Thread Kevin J
Not only that it repeats the entire page but it does get rid of he box thing the second time around. On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 19:36:00 -0500, Frank D. Engel, Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Won't that delete the first character you retrieve? > > O

Re: Problems placed grouped groups

2005-03-14 Thread Ken Ray
On 3/14/05 6:38 PM, "Robert Brenstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What is the logic of having a background within a background? Is this > supported? What would be the message passing? Well, technically speaking, having a "background" (i.e. a group with backgroundBehavior=true) inside another "

Re: Simple savings account

2005-03-14 Thread Alex Tweedly
Paul Salyers wrote: A = P(1+ r/m)^mt where P is the principle (money in the account to start) where r is the intest rate where m is the compound times / year where t is the number of years to calculate for m X t and ^ is the power of, so x to the power of mt Dear Rev Proframmers I need a simple sta

Re: Airport status

2005-03-14 Thread Richard Miller
Yes, Frank, you are right. I discovered that installing XCode made the difference. The MAKE command worked fine then, as did Alex's Rev code. I can now easily get a numerical value for the strength of the airport signal from inside Rev. Very nice. Thanks. Richard On Mar 14, 2005, at 7:32 PM, F

Re: Problems placed grouped groups

2005-03-14 Thread Robert Brenstein
Well, here's what I can report. Perhaps it'll help you track down the issue. On OS X 10.3.8 with Rev 2.5.1: When I create the main group baseControls and then break out some of its buttons as a separate, nested group whose backgroundbehavior is turned on (while that of the baseControls is not), c

Re: Using sockets

2005-03-14 Thread Frank D. Engel, Jr.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Won't that delete the first character you retrieve? On Mar 14, 2005, at 7:08 PM, Mark Smith wrote: on mouseUp open socket "theseahaven.com:5500" read from socket "theseahaven.com:5500" for -1 put it into tvar repeat for each line L in tVar p

Re: Airport status

2005-03-14 Thread Frank D. Engel, Jr.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 You can also get that error if make is not installed -- it's probably part of the Developer Tools package (should be on your second OS X install CD -- not installed as part of the OS installation). Not at all difficult to install; it's just a standa

Re: Mac OS Classic Engine for 2.5.1 (was: Re: )

2005-03-14 Thread Frank D. Engel, Jr.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I can't download the Mac OS classic engines under 2.5.1 either. Worked fine for me under 2.5. On Mar 14, 2005, at 2:31 PM, Dan Shafer wrote: What happens when you try to download the standalone engine for OS9? Do you get an error? Does it appear to

Re: Using sockets

2005-03-14 Thread Mark Smith
On 14 Mar 2005, at 20:15, Kevin J wrote: Well I have taken a break from working on my text editor. So I decided to play around with the socket functions. I was trying to open a socket to a text game so that I could read the login page I can get it in to the text field and the page will show up in t

Re: MacOS standalone engine

2005-03-14 Thread Robert Brenstein
Sounds like I was wrong. Or I should say I misspoke myself. I have not tried to download a new OS9 engine with 2.5.1. I just copied over the engine I already had. As far as I can tell, it works fine. Maybe the apps I'm making will explode in someone's face someday but so far, so good. So I gues

Re: MacOS standalone engine

2005-03-14 Thread Dan Shafer
Sounds like I was wrong. Or I should say I misspoke myself. I have not tried to download a new OS9 engine with 2.5.1. I just copied over the engine I already had. As far as I can tell, it works fine. Maybe the apps I'm making will explode in someone's face someday but so far, so good. So I gues

Re: Using sockets

2005-03-14 Thread Mark Wieder
Kevin- Monday, March 14, 2005, 12:01:47 PM, you wrote: KJ> Well I have taken a break from working on my text editor. So I decided KJ> to play around with the socket functions. I was trying to open a KJ> socket to a text game so that I could read the login page I can get it KJ> in to the text fiel

Re: use-revolution Digest, Vol 18, Issue 53

2005-03-14 Thread Karen
Dan, Thanks for your reply. After a lot of experimentation and hacking around, plus reading the documentation and a very helpful tip from "Cubist" I came up with the following code: lock screen set the formatForPrinting of stack "Stock Portfolio" to false set the htmlText of field "Pri

Re: use-revolution Digest, Vol 18, Issue 53

2005-03-14 Thread David Vaughan
Richard It is many years since I played much in Terminal and then not with tcsh, so let me tell you how I worked my way through this and see if it helps you. Watch for the dots I have in here, e.g. in "sudo mv ./airport /usr/local/bin" there is one at the beginning of the first path. I downloa

MacOS standalone engine

2005-03-14 Thread Lars Brehmer
Thanks for the reply Dan! When I try to make a Mac OS standalone I first get "The engine for MacOSPPC is missing. Do you want to download it now?" When I click "download" for a quarter second it say "downloading engine" immediately followed by "problem downloading engine" and the sheets slides

Re: Using sockets

2005-03-14 Thread Dar Scott
On Mar 14, 2005, at 1:01 PM, Kevin J wrote: I was trying to open a socket to a text game so that I could read the login page I can get it in to the text field and the page will show up in the field but it will have a little square box at the left hand side of the field on every line. How would I ge

Re: Airport status

2005-03-14 Thread Alex Tweedly
Richard Miller wrote: Alex, While I'm not at all familiar with Terminal, I believe I get into the correct folder. Typed MAKE. Received back error COMMAND NOT FOUND. Commands are case-sensitive, so it should be "make" in lower case. If it's not that, I'm afraid I'm about out of suggestions (since t

Using sockets

2005-03-14 Thread Kevin J
Well I have taken a break from working on my text editor. So I decided to play around with the socket functions. I was trying to open a socket to a text game so that I could read the login page I can get it in to the text field and the page will show up in the field but it will have a little square

RE:

2005-03-14 Thread Chris Sheffield
You can also download it yourself from ftp://ftp.runrev.com/pub/revolution/downloads/engines/2.5/MacOSfat.dir.gz -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lars Brehmer Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 12:01 PM To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Subject

RE:

2005-03-14 Thread Chris Sheffield
I believe the engine for OS 9 is not yet available. I was told that there would be a couple weeks' delay before it would be ready (so hopefully by next week sometime we'll have it). I think the same thing happened with the release of 2.5, which is probably why you had the same problem. But the 2

Re: Airport status

2005-03-14 Thread Richard Miller
Alex, While I'm not at all familiar with Terminal, I believe I get into the correct folder. Typed MAKE. Received back error COMMAND NOT FOUND. Richard On Mar 14, 2005, at 2:14 PM, Alex Tweedly wrote: Richard Miller wrote: Thanks, Alex. I've been trying this out, but it appears the download at ht

Re: OSX Menu Mystery

2005-03-14 Thread Richard Gaskin
Dan Shafer wrote: This is very strange, indeed. When I select a topic from the Help menu, Rev opens a new stack that briefly shows "copy of revdocs" in its title bar. As far as I can tell, only the menu stuff is different between it and the topics when selected from the docs window. Clearly

Re: Printing and fonts

2005-03-14 Thread Dan Shafer
On Mar 13, 2005, at 6:55 AM, Karen wrote: Hi, I'm trying to print tabular data from Revolution, and I'm having big problems. This is due to the font used to print - I don't seem to have any control over the font used, and therefore can't make it a font such as Courier which would have consistent

Re:

2005-03-14 Thread Dan Shafer
What happens when you try to download the standalone engine for OS9? Do you get an error? Does it appear to work but then the standalone isn't present on your system? FWIW, I'm building OS9 standalones with 2.5.1 but then I built them with 2.5 as well, so I don't know what could be going on he

Re: Problems placed grouped groups

2005-03-14 Thread Dan Shafer
Well, here's what I can report. Perhaps it'll help you track down the issue. On OS X 10.3.8 with Rev 2.5.1: When I create the main group baseControls and then break out some of its buttons as a separate, nested group whose backgroundbehavior is turned on (while that of the baseControls is not),

Re: Airport status

2005-03-14 Thread Alex Tweedly
Richard Miller wrote: Thanks, Alex. I've been trying this out, but it appears the download at http://www.macstumbler.com/airport.tar.gz is a folder containing the pieces of the full script. It looks like it needs to be turned into a Unix Executable File, but I don't know how to do that. Anyone

Re: OSX Menu Mystery

2005-03-14 Thread Dan Shafer
This is very strange, indeed. When I select a topic from the Help menu, Rev opens a new stack that briefly shows "copy of revdocs" in its title bar. As far as I can tell, only the menu stuff is different between it and the topics when selected from the docs window. Clearly a glitch. Dan On

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2005-03-14 Thread Lars Brehmer
Hi all! I just downloaded the 2.5.1 trial (MacOS X, panther) and have a question. I did this when 2.5 came out, and while I like it better than 2.2 in most ways, back then I could never successfully download the standalone engine for the older Mac OS. This was one of the reasons I let the tri

Re: Airport status

2005-03-14 Thread Richard Miller
Thanks, Alex. I've been trying this out, but it appears the download at http://www.macstumbler.com/airport.tar.gz is a folder containing the pieces of the full script. It looks like it needs to be turned into a Unix Executable File, but I don't know how to do that. Anyone here have guidance on

Re: Way to Force Safari to load URL

2005-03-14 Thread RGould8
Ken - - - thanks - - - - you're onto something there, and I follow the logic. However when I try your sample, I just get Safari with a blank window. How does the pDestPage value get passed into Safari as an URL to load? (It may be that my email app "ate"/parsed of your html code, so I cou

Simple savings account

2005-03-14 Thread Paul Salyers
A = P(1+ r/m)^mt where P is the principle (money in the account to start) where r is the intest rate where m is the compound times / year where t is the number of years to calculate for m X t and ^ is the power of, so x to the power of mt Dear Rev Proframmers I need a simple stack to do this. I wan

Re: OSX Menu Mystery

2005-03-14 Thread Graham Samuel
On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 12:51:48 +, Kevin Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Click Topics. Click on "Menus and the Menu bar". Its all there. I was going to reply: Kevin, I have no such topic: I have a topic "Menus" and there is only one subtopic relating to OSX, and this only deals with the f

RE: Re: Strange Bug in Windows Version

2005-03-14 Thread MisterX
Karen, Try this... Rename the menu group (click on selectedgroup until the group is hilited as one object), Copy paste the working menus and redo the script changes Should take you 15 minutes top chrono! ;) cheers Xavier -- Programming so all you have to do is copy paste http://MonsieurX.com/run

Re: Re: Strange Bug in Windows Version

2005-03-14 Thread Karen
Xavier, Thanks for the reply. Sadly it isn't white text on a white background. And auto-hilite is set. The same Rev stack builds perfectly under Mac OS X. It did build perfectly on Windows XP too, but somewhere along the line something has gone wrong. On XP no text items populate when the sta

Re: OT: Severe Mac Mini problem

2005-03-14 Thread Thomas McGrath III
Terry, The specs on your Mini state that it can handle the projector and as such i would try the reset PRAM approach and see if you can reset the projector as well (via the projector's menu system). P.S. Are you using Digital or Analog (VGA)? Have you tried S-Video just to see if it works? You

Re: OT: Severe Mac Mini problem

2005-03-14 Thread Thomas McGrath III
Terry, This could be one of two things. Either the mini does not have enough vram to handle the larger projector requirements and as such will not display at the larger size no matter what you do OR because of the way it is being connected the mini keeps defaulting to a lower resolution and you

Re: Airport status

2005-03-14 Thread Alex Tweedly
Richard Miller wrote: Found this info: -- " For those who are interested, I found a way to show airport signal strength (and other airport info). Download this airport CLI tool (http://www.macstumbler.com/airport.tar.gz) and find a place for it (I put mine in /usr/loc

Call command bug or show/hide bug in windows standalones with Rev_2.5.1 ?

2005-03-14 Thread Christian Langers
Hello, Is it just me or ...? I need to call the mouseUp of a button in a script. Here is what I did : Created a new stack; a new fld (with a backgroundColor)(named "test"); 2 buttons (A and B) Btn A's script : on mouseUp put "" into fld "test" put "1,2,3" into tList call "mouseUp" of btn

Re: OSX Menu Mystery

2005-03-14 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 3/14/05 6:51 AM, Kevin Miller wrote: On 12/3/05 4:48 am, "J. Landman Gay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It was well-explained in the old docs, but in the transition to the new format it seems to have got lost. Do you have a copy of Rev pre-2.5? Look up "About...menus and the menu bar"; what you wa

Re: Airport status

2005-03-14 Thread Richard Miller
Found this info: -- " For those who are interested, I found a way to show airport signal strength (and other airport info). Download this airport CLI tool (http://www.macstumbler.com/airport.tar.gz) and find a place for it (I put mine in /usr/local/bin). After that, i

Airport status

2005-03-14 Thread Richard Miller
Any ideas on how to tap into airport status info on a Mac from within Rev? My application needs to inform users when they have taken our portable units out of network range. We don't give them access to the desktop. I'd prefer to have a numerical value returned some how, but graphics can work a

Re: Set the color of a sigle word in a field

2005-03-14 Thread Frank D. Engel, Jr.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hmm... There may be some serious issues with this code, but I wonder how hard it would be to get this working (untested): on rawKeyUp put " " &field "blueWhile" & " " into field "blueWhile" put the htmlText of field "blueWhile" into bw replace "

Re: QuickTime conundrum

2005-03-14 Thread Trevor DeVore
On Mar 14, 2005, at 5:38 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Richard, I think I found the problem... It is not with Runrev entirely but more likely with QuickTime!!! I tested it against mplayer32, winamp video or mediaplayer and only QT has this problem! I didn't play with QT's video system settings. All

Re: 2.5.1 and HTTPS or SSL (was The Best just got Better)

2005-03-14 Thread Frank D. Engel, Jr.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The SSL license is a $199.00 add-on for a Studio license, but is included with the Enterprise license. Do you have the enterprise license (or the SSL add-on)? If not, then this is why it is not working for you. And yes, openssl itself is built-in

Re: Strange Bug in Windows Version

2005-03-14 Thread xbury . cs
Karen, White text on white background maybe? I would assume... Menus work normally here on xp or w2k... But the backpattern will bleed on the menu and make text hard to read on occasions... Make sure you set the auto-hilite of the menu's button to true for windows... (otherwise the menu doesn't

Strange Bug in Windows Version

2005-03-14 Thread Karen
Hi, I've been building my application on the Mac and also creating a Windows version which (until now) has run quite happily under Windows XP. With the latest build, the Mac version is still fine, but when I run under Windows XP the menu text is invisible (although you can still select menu optio

Re: Set the color of a sigle word in a field

2005-03-14 Thread Mark Swindell
I'm sure it's not the best way, but here's one way to make it happen: What I'd like to know from anyone is what the syntax would be for the following using the "repeat for" structure rather than "repeat with x = 1 to the number of..." structure. on rawkeyup repeat with x = 1 to the number of

Re: QuickTime conundrum

2005-03-14 Thread xbury . cs
Richard, I think I found the problem... It is not with Runrev entirely but more likely with QuickTime!!! I tested it against mplayer32, winamp video or mediaplayer and only QT has this problem! I didn't play with QT's video system settings. All is by default... Open a couple apps in Windows.

Re: QuickTime conundrum

2005-03-14 Thread xbury . cs
Slight oversight... I was sure I had this option off but it wasn't on this computer... Removing the menus' shadows in windows (rightclick desktop, choose tab Appearance, btn Effects and remove all the options...) This improves the playback (although unrealistic to ask this to clients!) Note tha

Re: OSX Menu Mystery

2005-03-14 Thread Kevin Miller
On 12/3/05 4:48 am, "J. Landman Gay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It was well-explained in the old docs, but in the transition to the new > format it seems to have got lost. Do you have a copy of Rev pre-2.5? > Look up "About...menus and the menu bar"; what you want is about 3/4 of > the way down

[ANN] Four new plugins available from So Smart Software

2005-03-14 Thread Éric Chatonet
Hello everyone, So Smart Software has the pleasure of announcing the availability of four new freeware plugins/utilities for DreamCard/Revolution that you can download from now on: Backups Picker 1.0 - Project security plugin Backups Picker oversees the progression of an unlimited number of pro

Fwd: OT: Severe Mac Mini problem

2005-03-14 Thread Pierre Sahores
Hello there, I had some troubles too in learning how to manage my own mac mini video output but all is ok yet. To save the right resolution in the screen panel preference, i installed Timbuktu pro 8.0 on the mac mini and manage it remotely from my powerbook witch run a Timbuktu pro 7.0 issue. Y

Re: OT: Severe Mac Mini problem

2005-03-14 Thread Ken Norris
On Mar 14, 2005, at 12:39 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 06:39:44 +0100 From: Terry Vogelaar (de Mare) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: OT: Severe Mac Mini problem Any other suggestions? The video is a built-in Radeon card, maybe they will know. Chances are, it has an onboard dr

Re: OT: Severe Mac Mini problem

2005-03-14 Thread Pierre Sahores
Hello there, I had some troubles too in learning how to manage my own mac mini video output but all is ok yet. To save the right resolution in the screen panel preference, i installed Timbuktu pro 8.0 on the mac mini and manage it remotely from my powerbook witch run a Timbuktu pro 7.0 issue. Y

Re: 2.5.1 and HTTPS or SSL (was The Best just got Better)

2005-03-14 Thread Jim Ault
Thanks for the reply.. I have all the files installed and did the repair permissions and still gives the same ->error cannot load SSL library<- I will try sometime in the next couple weeks to get to the bottom of this, but too busy now. Thanks, Jim On 3/13/05 3:40 PM, "Dar Scott" <[EMAIL PROTE

Re: QuickTime conundrum

2005-03-14 Thread xbury . cs
Although I never got a test stack to crash, or freeze (2 cpus didn't help the flicker or ailing menu response!). But dragging a control over the player is also a big show of problems! Even more so without the alwaysbuffer... (BTW, if I set the alwaysbuffer to true I can no longuer play the movie v