Interesting coincidence...
This came into my mailbox today...
although it's for C++, it's quite to the point...
http://www.informit.com/articles/article.asp?p=373340&seqNum=2
quote:
Report an error (e.g., write throw ) wherever a function detects an error that
it cannot resolve itself and
that
On 28.04.2005, at 20:55, Jim Carwardine wrote:
I don't need to know this, John. How is RunRev to stay in business if
they
don't charge for their product? You of all people should know how much
overhead is required to produce bug-free code. RunRev could not
sustain
itself unless it turned open
On Sun, 01 May 2005 , Bob Hartley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi All.
I have an app that has a toolbar that does things to a window (an
independent rev file). However, I want to embed this independent window
into one stack and then save it back out.
EG. Imagine a word processor like MS word without
Mark,
No troubles at all, there, even in using an external FireWire LaCie 2.5
inches 20 Go HD as support, to read movies (QT7 Pro Panther 10.3.9 PWB
G4 12" 1 Ghz ; QT7 Pro Tiger 10.4 IBook G3 12"800 Mhz).
Le 2 mai 05, à 02:49, Mark Wieder a écrit :
Pierre-
Sunday, May 1, 2005, 12:52:17 PM, you w
Thank you all for a very interesting thread. It clarified a lot for me and
many others I'm sure. Although I've been in the IT industry since 1967 (my
first computer experience was on an IBM 3070), I took up programming again,
after an 8 year hiatus, when I bought a Mac Plus with HC in 1985. Sinc
Hi all!
you may have seen a brief mentioning of rev windowShape not working
properly in Tiger. Gordon Tillmann helped me out on this, but the
problem wasn't really a problem at all. I first installed Tiger on my
backup machine, which hadn't had the last few Panther updates, and thus
I hadn't
As a complete beginner with Revolution I¹ve found it very hard to get a grip
on this. It¹s a big stumbling block for those used to Hypercard, where the
IDE was taken for granted, and the concept of a standalone was unfamiliar.
But the ability to deliver standalones cross-platform is a major attrac
Sivakatirswami
Here's what you can do:
You need to have a computer that can support a second monitor as an
extension of the computer's monitor. On the mac side, only the
professional line (PowerBook, G5 tower) has this function built in. You
cannot make this work with an iBook, an eMac or an iM
> As a complete beginner with Revolution I¹ve found it very hard to get a grip
> on this. It¹s a big stumbling block for those used to Hypercard, where the
> IDE was taken for granted, and the concept of a standalone was unfamiliar.
> But the ability to deliver standalones cross-platform is a major
So is there a consensus on best-practices to handle settings for Rev
apps? Substack? File? Registry?
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Dan, Sivakatirswami,
This approach assumes you have mirror imaging 'OFF' in order to have
two distinct screen areas. I don't know how (applescript, do process,
shell) to do this. Or how to detect this to not get errors. Something
like "If the system has two monitors (?) then turn off 'video
mi
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Right, the key phrase being "Apple-labeled computer."
On Apr 30, 2005, at 3:26 PM, Dar Scott wrote:
On Apr 30, 2005, at 8:55 AM, Frank D. Engel, Jr. wrote:
If you read the license agreement for OS X, there is a clause which
states that it cannot legall
Tom,
You're right, of course. You do need to turn mirror imaging 'OFF' prior
to running the show, using the system preferences panel. Does the new
KeyNote dynamically detect the setting and turn mirror imaging off?
What does it do with an iBook where you can't turn mirror imaging off?
Rev will
Dan,
That is of course if the alt monitor is at 0,0. We would need to
determine where the second monitor is located at.
I will look into the new Keynote as to wether it auto detects or not. I
can't remember.
I will also check my kids iBook. I use a PowerBook G4 15".
Tom
On May 2, 2005, at 9:23
Hello All,
Yes, I know about the "revMail" command, but I
don't want to call up my email program to send the
email; I want to do this within the Rev app I am
developing. Any suggestions?
Thanks,
Shawn
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> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> Shawn Rampy
> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 16:08
> To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
> Subject: Sending Email Within Revolution???
>
> Hello All,
>
> Yes, I know about the "revMai
LISP is purely functional, not object-oriented. There are OO
libraries for LISP, but many on the LISP side of things look down on
them.
I'm not sure how to catalog Forth, but it's not OO (inherently --
there are OO implementations). It's procedural, certainly, but the
inherent stack gives
I think by that classification Rev _is_ object-oriented:
"ObjectOrientedProgramming. A program execution is regarded as a
physical model, simulating the behavior of either a real or imaginary
part of the world." Sounds like Rev to me.
Nevertheless, I always refer people to another quote on t
On May 2, 2005, at 10:25 AM, Geoff Canyon wrote:
I'm not sure how to catalog Forth, but it's not OO (inherently --
there are OO implementations). It's procedural, certainly, but the
inherent stack gives it a definite functional feel.
Forth is not really a high level language any more than assembl
look at this free library:
http://www.shaosean.tk/
On May 02 2005, at 16:07, Shawn Rampy wrote:
Hello All,
Yes, I know about the "revMail" command, but I
don't want to call up my email program to send the
email; I want to do this within the Rev app I am
developing. Any suggestions?
Thanks,
Sha
Yeah, the *implementation* of Forth I tried to learn used frames as
objects and approached OO in some key ways as I recall. OF course, I
have blissfully forgotten all that in the dream of the Dreamcard
Revolution. ;-)
On May 2, 2005, at 8:02 AM, Dennis Brown wrote:
On May 2, 2005, at 10:25 A
On May 1, 2005, at 11:48 AM, Derek Bump wrote:
Is anyone aware of any add-ins for QuickTime (Windows) that will allow
one to use QuickTime to show DVDs?
I second this request. I would LOVE to be able to access DVDs through
Rev/QT. Old-time Hypercarders, remember how simple and elegant it was
to
Geoff and All,
And in about polymorphism... : HC and REV are full able to let us
design any complexes recursive procedures we can need inside our
xtalk's apps, even in using polymorhism, hash-tables stuffs and so
on...
Best, Pierre
Le 2 mai 05, à 16:28, Geoff Canyon a écrit :
I think by that cl
While xTalk does use objects, it doesn't support the full range of
features formally associated with the term "object-oriented programming"
- from wikipedia:
In computer science, Object-oriented programming,
OOP for short, is a computer programming style
that emphasizes the following co
John Ridge wrote:
As a complete beginner with Revolution I¹ve found it very hard to get a grip
on this. It¹s a big stumbling block for those used to Hypercard, where the
IDE was taken for granted, and the concept of a standalone was unfamiliar.
But the ability to deliver standalones cross-platform
Recently, Mikey wrote:
> So is there a consensus on best-practices to handle settings for Rev
> apps? Substack? File? Registry?
One could argue the OS developers made "Preferences" locations for a reason.
It's standard to write where appropriate for the platform: Registry makes
sense for Wind
--- Sivakatirswami <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Apr 30, 2005, at 1:27 PM, Andre Garzia wrote:
>
> > Hi Folks,
> >
> > trying not to reinvent the wheel here, can RevXML
> library transform a
> > given XML using a XSLT file or I'll have to write
> code for that (or
> > maybe shell to some tool
Hello to All,
I use Rev as a deamon server (alike Apache, PostgreSQL and so on - not
just as a CGI engine) under the linux platform in starting stack's
instances in the Init System V way. I would be interested to know if
anyone can say if it is possible to get the same result under the Mac
OS X
> [x'ed]
> You are free to define "words"
> that implement an OO environment if you choose. You could
> even create Rev using this as the lower level "P code", or an
> operating system for that matter.
>
> Dennis
I like your way of saying it...
That's exactly what I've done with xtalk in T
Hello, all I need to make some simple changes to a Valentina DB, the
Query builder is a great tool and I have everything set to open the
tables and edit the fields. The problem comes when I am saving the
changes back. If I use the auto edit feature of the Query Builder I get
no erros but the change
I'm having a problem with a list field with autohilite getting
click-selected BEHIND a standard answer dialog. It seems to be
happening within the auto-select mechanism and I haven't found the
message that is sent.
Anyone else seen this - and is there a way to fix this outside of
making my own
In the process of trying to make an answer dialog (plan b), I ran
across another problem. When opening a new window/sub-stack, does
this automatically 'stop using' other stacks? When I closed this new
sub-stack, somehow the connection to a library was stopped. Do I have
to always define the 'de
Hi Stephen,
Plan c is always an option in RunRev.
But first check if you didn't forget to "pass" an event...
Stackinuse is in use by the stack that calls it "normally"
Then they are part of the event hierarchy in that order of calling.
if stack a uses stack b's script
stack c (not a substack of
--- Michael Parent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello, all I need to make some simple changes to a
> Valentina DB, the
> Query builder is a great tool and I have everything
> set to open the
> tables and edit the fields. The problem comes when I
> am saving the
> changes back. If I use the auto edi
Hello Jan, I did not check 'cache record set" as I will be opening many
different Db files. When I do a change and either click refresh query
from Query Builder or through a Button set to the auto refresh action
from Query Builder the original Data is displayed on screen.
Michael Parent
Read Natur
--- michael parent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello Jan, I did not check 'cache record set" as I
> will be opening many
> different Db files. When I do a change and either
> click refresh query
> from Query Builder or through a Button set to the
> auto refresh action
> from Query Builder the orig
On 5/2/05 12:38 PM, "Pierre Sahores" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello to All,
>
> I use Rev as a deamon server (alike Apache, PostgreSQL and so on - not
> just as a CGI engine) under the linux platform in starting stack's
> instances in the Init System V way. I would be interested to know if
>
On 5/2/05 1:22 PM, "Stephen Barncard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> In the process of trying to make an answer dialog (plan b), I ran
> across another problem. When opening a new window/sub-stack, does
> this automatically 'stop using' other stacks? When I closed this new
> sub-stack, somehow the c
Pierre,
If you just want to launch an ordinary MacOSX Rev standalone on
startup, you can put it in:
/System/Library/StartupItems/
You could also put an AppleScript in here to perform all sorts of
actions.
Along with Ken's tip, you could hide the GUI and make it a background
process- although s
Dear Revolutionaries
Instead of Friday the 6th May, the ChatRev with Kevin Miller and Ro
Nagey will be on Saturday. The time will remain at 17.00 GMT.
I also made some minor adjustments on the client, it should now be
possible to join without hassle after registering.
To join just paste the next
Thanks Ken and Brian for the help :-)
Unfortunaly, this don't feet the need to be able to start the process
in root protected mode with access to a socket port < 1024. In more
detailled words, is it a way to start a rev application from the Darwin
shell console even if none of Cocoa nor XWindows
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Theoretically, you could use the rc scripts in the /etc directory to
start your app; however, there is an issue with this, where upgrades to
the OS can and sometimes do replace these files without asking for
permission.
These files are the 'normal'
OK, all you cautious types who've been hanging onto your money,
waiting to see who we were going to have speaking in Monterey at
RevCon West... Ante up! Chipp and I just finalized the schedule of
speakers and topics and posted it at:
http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit/RevConWest/Schedule.htm
Hi Frank,
Le 3 mai 05, à 01:22, Frank D. Engel, Jr. a écrit :
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Theoretically, you could use the rc scripts in the /etc directory to
start your app; however, there is an issue with this, where upgrades
to the OS can and sometimes do replace these files
Hi,
Keep in mind that with Tiger (10.4), Apple is providing a new method to
start daemons, and other background services -launchd. It is part of
the both the client and server. I would imagine that if you were
deploying your app on 10.3 or lower you could package it up just like
you do for l
On May 2, 2005, at 9:28 AM, Geoff Canyon wrote:
Setting those aside, Rev lacks several characteristics most people
consider inherent to OO. That doesn't make it bad or good,
necessarily.
When this thread started, my reaction was because of these missing
characteristics, I would have said tha
Pierre,
If you just need access to port < 1024, I believe it's possible to make
root the owner of the application and have access from a GUI app... but
I doubt the app will run without Cocoa.
I don't think anything other than the Darwin/CGI engine will run on
MacOSX if you cannot have Cocoa or
On May 2, 2005, at 2:09 PM, Jan Schenkel wrote:
I'm wondering where you would need this, since most
browsers to the job
already as a matter of course...
Sivakatirswami
One reason to do it within your application is data
security : if you display the XML in a browser, and
refer to an XSL, you can hi
Hey,
I'm trying to get Rev to do an Applescript that will talk to either Mail or
Entourage (Mac) to auto-generate an email, attach several pdf files and then
send the email (with no interaction on my part). The email will always go
the the same recipient, but the content will change, so I need to
On 1 May 2005, at 5:44 PM, Ken Ray wrote:
(a) Prevent someone from dragging a window that is a toplevel window
(without a "snapback" solution of resetting the window after the drag
is
complete); or
How about settings it's decorations to empty so there is no draggable
title bar?
You could fake th
As a complete beginner with Revolution I’ve found it very hard to get
a grip
on this. It’s a big stumbling block for those used to Hypercard, where
the
IDE was taken for granted, and the concept of a standalone was
unfamiliar.
But the ability to deliver standalones cross-platform is a major
att
Mikey,
I like to store them in the user prefs area (different folder for each
OS) as XML files. They're easy to parse, and easy to write to and allow
for future updatability.
And, because stacks are difficult to create (on the fly) from a server,
I generally only use them if I have to store som
Chipp Walters wrote:
And, because stacks are difficult to create (on the fly) from a server,
I generally only use them if I have to store some sort of binary data
(logo) with pref files.
What sorts of issues have you found?
This seems to work well on my BSD server:
#!mc
on startup
-- make the s
Dear Rev Programers,
I know that the Mac don't have a registry like windows, but is there way to
save program information in a place on the Mac where only the program has
access to it and not prying eyes?
Paul Salyers
PS1 - Senior Rep.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Http://ps1.SoftSeven.org
Hi Richard,
For various reasons, we choose not to use MC on the server. The big one
being it's unusual high use of resources per connection. Though Pierre
has a nice workaround for it using Perl (or is it PHP?), we pretty much
standarize on either MySQL or MS SQLserver.
I ran into this problem
Hi,
Has anyone tried writing tools in Rev to support Podcasting? I'm
interested in using Rev to automate many of the production related
tasks in Podcasting and even automating uploads.
Jesse Sng
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Paul Salyers wrote:
I know that the Mac don't have a registry like windows, but is there way
to save program information in a place on the Mac where only the program
has access to it and not prying eyes?
Some might recommend using invisible files, but for myself I find it
disturbing when I disco
Hi Andre,
I looked into using XSLT a couple of years ago to do XML -> XHTML
transformations for Hemingway, and found the whole thing alarmingly
slow, not to mention extremeley difficult to program and debug. Much
faster to do it in PHP or ASP or even [probably] Transcript.
Perhaps things have c
Jesse,
Check out the 'record sound' command in the documentation.
Also, you may want to check out Trevor's Quicktime externals at:
http://www.mangomultimedia.com/developer/revolution/
as they may be of help in recording audio, too.
-Chipp
Jesse Sng wrote:
Hi,
Has anyone tried writing tools in Rev t
At 12:11 AM 5/3/2005, you wrote:
Paul Salyers wrote:
I know that the Mac don't have a registry like windows, but is there way
to save program information in a place on the Mac where only the program
has access to it and not prying eyes?
Some might recommend using invisible files, but for myself I
--- Chipp Walters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Andre,
>
> I looked into using XSLT a couple of years ago to do
> XML -> XHTML
> transformations for Hemingway, and found the whole
> thing alarmingly
> slow, not to mention extremeley difficult to program
> and debug. Much
> faster to do it in
Hi. I am returning to develop in Revolution after some time away. I am
using Rev. 2.5.1 (laterst version). I cannot figure out how to
implement the revSmartSave stack. If I choose it from the
Development:Plugins Menu, the stack is frozen and won't let me select a
time interval. Neither can
Paul Salyers wrote:
Can custom props keep things like registry keys for all the programs to
use. One key opens all the programs.
If the programs were developed with Rev, yes.
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Fourth World Media Corporation
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On 5/2/05 10:12 PM, "Sarah Reichelt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 1 May 2005, at 5:44 PM, Ken Ray wrote:
>
>> (a) Prevent someone from dragging a window that is a toplevel window
>> (without a "snapback" solution of resetting the window after the drag
>> is
>> complete); or
>>
> How about set
Hi Mark,
Try to open it via the open file menu. Should not block you.
If not, the stack's function is quite easy. Make a save this stack button
and with an interval of x seconds, send a "mouseup" message to it so
it saves your stack.
cheers
Xavier
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