Re: Ensuring numeric input

Ooops. Late again. My standard numberField solution is similar to Michael's but simpler as it doesn't need to handle multiple lines. It does, hoever, validate pre- rather than post-process and restores the old value if necessary... local lOldValue on openField put me into lOldValue end ope

Re: Revdocs on a wiki

Hi Chipp, Sivakatirswami, ... But that link is very interesting. In fact I've got a complete GUI written around the openSource version of HTMLDOC. Currently it only works on Windows, but I seem to remember handing off the Mac/Linux port to Klaus? To Mr. Major? No, not that i could remem

broadcaster

I know revolution can do almost everythingbut I wonder if I can develope a broadcaster using revolution+Quicktime. I mean .. I need my application to broadcast a video streaming to a quicktime file . Best regards, Paolo Mazza ___ use-revolution maili

Re: Programming tools philosophy.

Flavel Steve wrote: if c is in char i+1 to -i of tNum then [Mark - nope - should have been " i+1 to -1 of tNum" in both cases. Alex My solution looked at all the permutations and took around 900 ms One suggestion to improve your very elegant solution --repeat while

Re: Revdocs on a wiki

On 27 Oct 2005, at 21:02, Chipp Walters wrote: Perhaps I don't know enough about wiki's, but it would sure be nice if they could organize data in a form which could be printed in a real-book format (and had an 'export to PDF' button which did just that, including TOC and index). While th

Re: Revdocs on a wiki

Well said! On 28 Oct 2005, at 01:12, Timothy Miller wrote: I have mixed feelings about what I'm about to say. I expect that the new docs will be a big improvement. They might be excellent. Rev deserves a lot of credit for efforts to enhance the docs. I don't want to see that deprecated. I

Re: Revdocs on a wiki

Good question: On 28 Oct 2005, at 01:26, Chipp Walters wrote: Question: How would one manage 'wiki-bloat' where different people post so much commentary about a function or handler or feature, that it becomes impossible to navigate through? Would special 'editors' need be appointed? If a

Re: Revdocs on a wiki

On 28 Oct 2005, at 02:53, Dan Shafer wrote: Several years ago, I headed up a project which involved an extensive documentation effort and this same issue was raised. I like the way we solved it. Furthermore, I happen to have access to the tool and a server where it could be deployed and wou

Re: Revdocs on a wiki

On 28 Oct 2005, at 05:48, Chipp Walters wrote: Some of these are free, others cost. But the beauty in XML is that it doesn't 'lock' the content inside a display presentation format. I assume wiki's can do the same thing. Yes - and this solves the flexible pdf export side of things much be

Re: broadcaster

I am working in this area at them moment and it is possible if you want to use Rev to create a SMIL file, or control a Linux based streaming solution via the command line... On 28 Oct 2005, at 11:44, paolo mazza wrote: I know revolution can do almost everythingbut I wonder if I can deve

Re: Revdocs on a wiki

And I've heard in the case of BIG mistakes, a good Wiki can be 'rolled-back' easily by the admin and the offender unsubscribed if there's mischief. Timothy Miller wrote: Sure, some users would bloat entries. But then, other users would prune them. When I look at the wikipedia, the entries I

Re: Revdocs on a wiki

On 28 Oct 2005, at 07:58, J. Landman Gay wrote: Just to play devil's advocate: Yes - good article - one of the very rare anti-wikipedia articles. Goes nowhere to say why or to suggest solutions though. This is a side poi

Re: Revdocs on a wiki

you can also enforce that users log in before editing, you can restrict the rights to comments, arcticles, changes etc... And you can also setup groups which have special rights to do this or that... But from experience, leaving anyone to modify anything is not a good idea - even comments...

Re: Revdocs on a wiki

I really would recommend you have some fun and go and delete a wikipedia entry. I did this a couple of years ago - and have done it once or twice more as a "demo". usually corrected within 2 minutes - sometimes as much as 5 minutes - really quite amazing! On 28 Oct 2005, at 13:14, Stephen B

Finding the Stack that Started Up a Stack

Hi, A quick question, If I have two stacks StackA and StackB: A script in this StackA executes: go to stack "StackB" In StackB (in one of the preOpen or open handlers) is there any way of finding out that StackB was run by StackA? I would like to know the current Stack that caused StackB to

Re: Finding the Stack that Started Up a Stack

Hi Dave, the best way to do that is the following: - grab line 2 of "the windows" - but there's no guarantee this was the stack that did it. - Put a frontscript that watches the closestack or suspendstack events and records which stack was last... This may not work if a lock messages is in ef

AW: Finding the Stack that Started Up a Stack

Hi David, if you put answer the last word of the long name of the recent card in an openStack handler, it should give you the name of the stack. All the best Thomas -- Thomas Fischer Salzburg > -Ursprungliche Nachricht- > Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Auftrag vo

Re: Revdocs on a wiki

There's been a tremendous amount of discussion about wikis here over the last 48 hours. Clearly a lot of good energy that can be put to productive use for the benefit of all. Given the great many details needed to be worked out to move this forward, much much more discussion will be needed.

Re: AW: Finding the Stack that Started Up a Stack

Thomas Fischer wrote: Hi David, if you put answer the last word of the long name of the recent card in an openStack handler, it should give you the name of the stack. Brilliantly simple! Bravo! -- Richard Gaskin Managing Editor, revJournal ___

2.6.1 very slow on Win XP?

Rev. 2.6.1 is *very* slow to startup on my 2 gHz Win XP box (at the point at which menus and plugins are loaded it appears to all but hang). Also, opening stacks and saving stacks is slow, but not always---depends on the stack. Standard 2.6.1 installation; no 3rd-party add-ons, etc. I do not rem

Changing Font Style of Text Already in a Field

Hello Everyone, If I have a field full of text in, say, Geneva, and want it changed to Lucida Grande, how do I do it with a handler? I've tried set the textFont of fld "X" to "Lucida Grande" but that only changes a text property of the field itself but not the appearance of text alr

AW: answer file with defaultPath

Hi Dan, > But I must say that on OS X 10.4.2, it also fails to honor the path > passed to it as a parameter. It seems to behave as the docs describe > it should behave without a path argument being passed. > I tried using set the defaultfolder to myPath but found that - the defaultFolder d

AW: AW: AW: How trim: Bug in RegExp engine

Hi Wouter, you wrote > These timing tests are not completely fair because: > >while char 1 of testString is space -> removes only space from > front if any > delete char 1 of testString >end repeat > > word 1 to -1 of testString -> removes tabs, spaces and returns from > fr

Re: Revdocs on a wiki

Richard, I am game for this. I just signed up for the RevDocs list. Let's just make sure that this list gets the occasional post about the progress so others know there is a place to discuss it. Dennis On Oct 28, 2005, at 9:40 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: There's been a tremendous amount

RE: 2.6.1 very slow on Win XP?

runs fast here on xp, 2k, 2k3... Opening Rev over networks can be horrible though... cheers Xavier > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Kurt Kaufman > Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 4:05 PM > To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Sub

Re: Revdocs on a wiki

Dennis Brown wrote: > On Oct 28, 2005, at 9:40 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: >> >> There's been a tremendous amount of discussion about wikis here over >> the last 48 hours. Clearly a lot of good energy that can be put to >> productive use for the benefit of all. >> >> Given the great many details

Re: Changing Font Style of Text Already in a Field

Gregory Lypny skrev: Hello Everyone, If I have a field full of text in, say, Geneva, and want it changed to Lucida Grande, how do I do it with a handler? I've tried set the textFont of fld "X" to "Lucida Grande" but that only changes a text property of the field itself but not the

Re: Revdocs on a wiki

Dear Folks, The energy and enthusiasm of this list is a great resource. We want to do everything we can to encourage it. A lot of good sense has been spoken regarding how to set up and manage a revdocs wiki successfully. With a view to facilitating the effort, whilst still retaining control

Re: Changing Font Style of Text Already in a Field

Hi Gregory, Hello Everyone, If I have a field full of text in, say, Geneva, and want it changed to Lucida Grande, how do I do it with a handler? I've tried set the textFont of fld "X" to "Lucida Grande" but that only changes a text property of the field itself but not the appearan

Re: Revdocs on a wiki

Heather, Thank you for your (RunRev's) unequivocal endorsement of this long time desire from this list. I believe it is in RunRev's best interest to take the leadership role and apparently you agree. Please be sure to solicit input INTERACTIVELY with the "interested parties" during the

Re: Revdocs on a wiki

On 28 Oct 2005, at 17:21, Dennis Brown wrote: Heather, Thank you for your (RunRev's) unequivocal endorsement of this long time desire from this list. I believe it is in RunRev's best interest to take the leadership role and apparently you agree. Please be sure to solicit input INTERACTI

Re: Revdocs on a wiki

All, Now that RunRev has committed to create and maintain a Rev Docs Wiki, I think all our efforts should be funneled into giving them our full support for this. I would certainly want them to get all the good input available from this list. A bad wiki is worse than no wiki at all. Wit

Re: Revdocs on a wiki

On 28 Oct 2005, at 17:31, Dennis Brown wrote: Now that RunRev has committed to create and maintain a Rev Docs Wiki, I think all our efforts should be funneled into giving them our full support for this. I would certainly want them to get all the good input available from this list. Yes -

Re: Revdocs on a wiki

Recently, David Bovill wrote: >> Now that RunRev has committed to create and maintain a Rev Docs >> Wiki, I think all our efforts should be funneled into giving them >> our full support for this. I would certainly want them to get all >> the good input available from this list. > > Yes - it wou

Programming is fun again

In the past I have commented on the instability I've experienced using Rev for my work. I use it hard. Sixteen and eighteen hour days are common. I regularly work with 20 to 30 meg. stacks. Some of the routines I run take 30 to 40 hours. This is often done on computers that have not been reboot

Re: Revdocs on a wiki

While I remain highly skeptical that a wiki is a good solution to this problem and prefer a commented discussion board model, I will certainly participate in this process once it's going. Dan On Oct 28, 2005, at 8:21 AM, Dennis Brown wrote: Heather, Thank you for your (RunRev's) unequivoc

Re: 2.6.1 very slow on Win XP?

Kurt Kaufman wrote: Rev. 2.6.1 is *very* slow to startup on my 2 gHz Win XP box (at the point at which menus and plugins are loaded it appears to all but hang). Also, opening stacks and saving stacks is slow, but not always---depends on the stack. Do you have a virus-checking utility that sca

Reminder: scripting conference canceled

Just a reminder that there will be no online chat for this Saturday's scripting conference. Jerry was not able to make it, but promises his stack will be available later on. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.c

RE: Revdocs on a wiki

Richard they call those rss and they are already in tiki wikis. We could also install a simple webforum (tiki has one - but the chat sucks) and for these discussions with latest threads per subjects forums are much handier... And it doesn't clog your corporatly clogged mail client... Not a ran

Re: 2.6.1 very slow on Win XP?

Kurt Kaufman wrote: > Rev. 2.6.1 is *very* slow to startup on my 2 gHz Win XP box (at the > point at which menus and plugins are loaded it appears to all but hang). One change between 2.6 and 2.6.1 is that QuickTime is loaded during startup of 2.6.1 rather than on first switch from select to br

Re: broadcaster

Hi Paolo, On Oct 28, 2005, at 6:12 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 11:44:54 +0200 From: "paolo mazza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: broadcaster I know revolution can do almost everythingbut I wonder if I can develope a broadcaster using revolution+Quicktime. I mean ..

RE: Revdocs on a wiki

hi everyone, bad news... posted in a good mood ;) I disagree with most of this tiki thing for rev docs. But not entirely, since revDocs are not net 'capable' or showing any evolution. But please don't chase away the current help system for something uncertain... For one, the rev dox are complete

Re: ANN: new free altPlugin: altMenuStack

Chipp, Roger and everyone, I just sent Chipp and the other testers a new version of Constellation to test--a version that fixes this issue Chipp brought up and a couple of others. This new version also has a preference to "preload" Constellation when Rev starts up. The question of why the

Re: Revdocs on a wiki

You missed the point. MY comment was marked as a rant, not yours! On Oct 27, 2005, at 8:29 PM, Timothy Miller wrote: Sorry you think it was a rant. Oops. Well, yours didn't look like a rant, but mine did, at least to me. How bout we both take a free pass, then. I think it's time for me

Re: Revdocs on a wiki

Wow! When it's up, I'll be happy to submit material intended to assist rank beginners. I hope this will be helpful to Rev and new users. Cheers, Tim Dear Folks, The energy and enthusiasm of this list is a great resource. We want to do everything we can to encourage it. A lot of good sen

Re: AW: AW: AW: How trim: Bug in RegExp engine

This would make sense that the quote is considered non-white space. If you were parsing a quoted string and considered the quotation mark a valuable character and part of the "word" component. now try these in the msg box. I said 'huh?' and probably a bug. put word 1 to -1 of "My test with l

Re: Revdocs on a wiki

On 28 Oct 2005, at 19:57, MisterX wrote: Compared to a browser, it's also low cost in your desktop! And it's fast, and it never looses its cookies like bugzilla on win32 and firefox??! And the wiki's which I've discovered in the past months, despite making cookies stale requiring you to rem

Re: Revdocs on a wiki

Hmmm. If it wasn't you, then who? Ah, Pierre Sahores. Hmmm. German and French. You think I'd be able to keep that straight. Sorry. Anyway, Klaus, interested in porting HTMLDOC to Mac / Linux? LOL Chipp Klaus Major wrote: Hi Chipp, Sivakatirswami, ... But that link is very interesting. In

Re: Changing Font Style of Text Already in a Field

Both Klaus and Signe Marie Sanne have good suggestions for doing this: set the textfont of char 1 to -1 of fld "X" to to "Lucida Grande" Both of their solutions involve explicitly set the font of the characters. Another way is to do as you do: set the textFont of fld "X" to "Lucida Grande" pu

Re: ANN: new free altPlugin: altMenuStack

Hi Jerry, Yes, it's a fact you can't debug stacks with 'rev' in the name prefix anymore using the Rev IDE. I'm not exactly sure when this happened (2.5?) but debug dialogs for rev prefixed stacks was turned off so as to not throw mystery errors. IOW, if the IDE threw an error, chances are the

Re: RevCentral Newsletter #5

Chipp, Good issue. Mark's tutorial on it and the result was good and concise. Even taught me something new about the result. We need a pointer to it in the new RevDocsWiki ;-) Dennis On Oct 26, 2005, at 6:14 PM, Chipp Walters wrote: Been a long time coming! Dan and I 'took the summer off

Re: ANN: new free altPlugin: altMenuStack

Chipp Walters wrote: Yes, it's a fact you can't debug stacks with 'rev' in the name prefix anymore using the Rev IDE. I'm not exactly sure when this happened (2.5?) but debug dialogs for rev prefixed stacks was turned off so as to not throw mystery errors. IOW, if the IDE threw an error, chance

Re: AW: AW: AW: How trim: Bug in RegExp engine

This would make sense that the quote is considered non-white space. If you were parsing a quoted string and considered the quotation mark a valuable character and part of the "word" component. now try these in the msg box. I said 'huh?' and probably a bug. put word 1 to -1 of "My test with l

Re: Changing Font Style of Text Already in a Field

On 28 Oct 2005, at 20:48, Chipp Walters wrote: Both Klaus and Signe Marie Sanne have good suggestions for doing this: set the textfont of char 1 to -1 of fld "X" to to "Lucida Grande" Both of their solutions involve explicitly set the font of the characters. Another way is to do as you do:

Darwin cgi engine and sendmail

Hi good people Does anyone have any experience of using sendmail from the Darwin cgi engine? (OS X 10.4.2) If so, could you let me know how it's done? Or if you know it's not possible, could put me out of my misery and let me know. Cheers Dave _

touch screen?

The clinic where I work is converting to an electronic medical record. We will be using touch screen tablet computers. Is it possible to make revolution created applications work with touch screens? If possible -- How? Thanks, Rich Lague ___ u

Re: touch screen?

I don't have recent experience with touch screens, but typically they mimic mouse actions, which should be transparent to Revolution. At 05:11 PM 10/28/2005, you wrote: The clinic where I work is converting to an electronic medical record. We will be using touch screen tablet computers

Re: touch screen?

> The clinic where I work is converting to an electronic medical record. > We will be using touch screen tablet computers. > > Is it possible to make revolution created applications work with touch > screens? If possible -- How? > Hi Rich, A touch screen just replaces the mouse, s

RE: answer file with defaultPath

Hi Thomas, I recently discovered the same result, the ask and answer dialogs don't use defaultFolder. Use the "with {path}" to make this work for you. The defaultFolder defines the path for "the files". -- Harvey -- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On

Re: Revdocs on a wiki

Good question, Tim (even though I"m hurt that you used Danny's book to learn HC and not mine, which was MUCH better. heh heh. JK) I think the answer is yes but this opens a whole can of worms about how to position, package, price and market Rev, whether for the audience you and I see or for

Re: ANN: new free altPlugin: altMenuStack

The folks at RunRev debug their IDE? Heh heh Dan On Oct 28, 2005, at 1:34 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: How do the folks at RunRev debug their IDE? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, uns

Re: touch screen?

On Oct 28, 2005, at 6:22 PM, Sarah Reichelt wrote: The thing you will need to remember is that the users won't have the fine control that a mouse gives, so make the buttons larger than normal. Also, you can't right-click and double-clicking is not easy. You may want to hide the cursor or set it

Re: Darwin cgi engine and sendmail

Dave, there was some snipet code by sivakatirswami showing that some time ago on the list, I'll search the list and get back to you. Cheers andre On Oct 28, 2005, at 7:33 PM, Dave Cragg wrote: Hi good people Does anyone have any experience of using sendmail from the Darwin cgi engine? (

Re: Revdocs on a wiki

Yeah, unfortunately, it's the same problem as the web, writ albeit a tad bit smaller. In a take-home exam essay, I had several students providing citations from wikipedias. Even worse, after we had discussed in class Microsoft's stance on their errors in Encarta being less important than Encarta'

Re: Changing Font Style of Text Already in a Field

Dave Cragg wrote: On 28 Oct 2005, at 20:48, Chipp Walters wrote: Both Klaus and Signe Marie Sanne have good suggestions for doing this: set the textfont of char 1 to -1 of fld "X" to to "Lucida Grande" Both of their solutions involve explicitly set the font of the characters. Another way i

Re: ANN: new free altPlugin: altMenuStack

Chipp Walters wrote: Yes, it's a fact you can't debug stacks with 'rev' in the name prefix anymore using the Rev IDE. I just made a stack called "revtest.rev" with a test handler in the card script. I could set a breakpoint and the debugger caught it. I could step through the code. Maybe t

Re: Revdocs on a wiki

Interesting article. A good friend of mine submitted a photoshopped pic of his ex-boss as an 'evil spirit' in wikipedia. Last I looked, it was still there! -Chipp J. Landman Gay wrote: Timothy Miller wrote: Sure, some users would bloat entries. But then, other users would prune them. When

Re: Revdocs on a wiki

This sort of goes to the heart of why I think that a well-done book, complete with a good index and a plethora of commented code snippets, would be invaluable as opposed to any sort of online analog. The main point is this: people already know how to use books. In all the years since the 1460s i

Re: Revdocs on a wiki

Judy, I couldn't agree with you more. The multiple books available for HyperCard, including Dan Shafer's and Danny Goodman's excellent tomes, were invaluable to me for learning how to work with HyperCard. That is one of the reasons why I'm pushing for both 'linearity' and 'xml' for whatever w

Creating sub-menus a la the inspector?

How would one go about creating those sub-menus in an option menu (or whatever) that appear in the inspector when there are more then 20 menus or fields etc.? Jim ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url t

Re: 2.6.1 very slow on Win XP?

Thanks to all who replied. I am using no anti-virus software, and it's a pretty basic Win XP SP1 installation. I have a feeling that, aside from the intial startup delay, it might be due to the fact that the stacks I'm running open other stacks across a local network. There's always a bit of a

Re: Revdocs on a wiki

On 10/28/05 7:31 PM, "Judy Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This sort of goes to the heart of why I think that a well-done book, > complete with a good index and a plethora of commented code snippets, > would be invaluable as opposed to any sort of online analog. Actually, only one comment ab

RE: Revdocs on a wiki

> illustrations mislabeled or misplaced, BUT... My > biggest pet peeve is the indexing. Either... 1. The word I > am trying to find is not there, and any synonym is a dead end > 2. The word is there, but it is a sub-listing so you have to > read the whole index to find it 3. The editor's us

Re: Revdocs on a wiki

Judy. As everyone here knows, you and I don't always see eye to eye on things. OK, we almost never see universe to universe. So what of it? But I thought that a LOT of what you share in this message is, as the Brits say, spot-on. Those who are waiting for electronically delivered info

Re: 2.6.1 very slow on Win XP?

Kurt Kaufman wrote: Also, I opened a copy of a stack previously opened from across the network; and I forgot that Rev does not necessarily release resources and settings when a stack is closed. Maybe it got something confused Kurt, that's your problem. Rev is trying to connect to that