Re: Studio License Renewal Cost

2006-08-04 Thread dreamscapesoftware.com - List
Brian Yennie wrote: > I agree with some of your points previously, but are you really saying that > you can take a couple of local night school classes and suddenly become so > proficient in C++ or Basic that you have no need for Revolution? C++ takes > years of experience, and will never give y

Re: Studio License Renewal Cost

2006-08-04 Thread dreamscapesoftware.com - List
Lynn Fredricks wrote: > The nearest competitor in terms of price/value is probably REALbasic, > however 12 months of upgrades of REALbasic Professional Edition is $250, not > $199. Revolution Studio creates applications for multiple platforms so its > nearest analog to REALbasic is Pro, not Standar

Re: Studio License Renewal Cost

2006-08-04 Thread dreamscapesoftware.com - List
Richard Gaskin wrote: > dreamscapesoftware.com write: > > > Garrett Hylltun wrote: > >> I've already expressed my dislike of the pricing structure. > >> But expressing it here on the mailing list does nothing but > >> cause unwanted and unneeded dissension among everyone on > >> the list and in the

Re: Studio License Renewal Cost

2006-08-04 Thread Brian Yennie
I agree with some of your points previously, but are you really saying that you can take a couple of local night school classes and suddenly become so proficient in C++ or Basic that you have no need for Revolution? C++ takes years of experience, and will never give you the kind of RAD developm

Re: Studio License Renewal Cost

2006-08-04 Thread dreamscapesoftware.com - List
Bill Marriott wrote: > Since Feb there has been 2.7, 2.7.1, and 2.7.2. While I have seen > improvements in the trial versions I still have not seen the kind of > stability I enjoyed in 2.6.1. They can't even install and uninstall > properly. I agree, there's been some nice and well needed bug fixe

Re: MySQL Load Data Local

2006-08-04 Thread Brian Yennie
FWIW, you can also use fast INSERT syntax: INSERT INTO myTable (a,b,c) VALUES (1,2,3),(4,5,6),(7,8,9); instead of many statements: INSERT INTO myTable (a,b,c) VALUES (1,2,3); INSERT INTO myTable (a,b,c) VALUES (4,5,6); INSERT INTO myTable (a,b,c) VALUES (7,8,9); On 8/5/06, Michael Caufield <[

Re: MySQL Load Data Local

2006-08-04 Thread Sarah Reichelt
On 8/5/06, Michael Caufield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I too ran into this problem with MySQL 5 and was unable to solve it. I > don't think it's anything to do with Revolution, it's MySQL's fault. I > turned on the local-infile option but this made no difference. > Actually, I probably should h

Re: revCopyFile chokes on 1,500 file loop

2006-08-04 Thread Sivakatirswami
(foot in mouth) As it turns out we found we were programmatically generating a few new filenames with colons in them! Ouch. After adding a function to strip out all but 0-9 a-z A-Z and only two forms of punctuation dash "-" and "_" underscore it worked fine. need to etch this policy in ston

Re: qwe - better than undesignated puts?

2006-08-04 Thread J. Landman Gay
Mark Talluto wrote: On Aug 4, 2006, at 1:35 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: So for the low cost of three characters and a smidgen of self-discipline, you get an unambiguous way to rapidly find things you want to address throughout your code base. I also have been using such a system. I use --**

AppleScript: folder actions

2006-08-04 Thread David Bovill
Scenario: files dropped into a folder with an attached folder action. info sent to a rev standalone via applescipt so that rev can process files. OK so how do you send the vriables from AppleScript to th standalone? Also while asking a ages ago I was able to use AppleScript to directly set data

Re: Dragging Multiple Files to Standalone?

2006-08-04 Thread David Bovill
For Macs you can trap the AppleEvent sent: on appleEvent theClass, theID -- execute a set of statements in a text file request appleEvent data -- get the content of the AppleEvent put it into appleEventContent put the params & CR & CR & appleEventContent pass appleEvent end appleEven

Re: form email to RevCGI, solved for GET not POST

2006-08-04 Thread jbv
Chris, I'm not 100% sure, but I have the feeling that if the limit on length of the GET was the cause of your problem, you might see your parameters truncated, bit not empty... just curious : what is the average length of the data you're trying to send via the HTML form ? > The GET method encode

Dragging Multiple Files to Standalone?

2006-08-04 Thread Derek Larsen
I'd like to be able to drag multiple files to my standalone icon and have the paths to those files available in Transcript. Is that even possible? I've used the follow script to get one, but dragging two or more files to my app only shows the first file. on openStack put $1 into fld "filePath

RE: u3 rev application with mysql/apache

2006-08-04 Thread Robert Mann
Viktoras I got the start button to work on mouseUp set the hideConsoleWindows to false open process "\xampplite\mysql\bin\mysqld" for neither end mouseUp but I am not able to get the stop to work (password=is correct for user=pma) #stop the server on mouseUp put "\xampplite\mysql\bin\m

form email to RevCGI, solved for GET not POST

2006-08-04 Thread HyperChris
The GET method encodes the form data in the URL and the POST method passes it as a parameter. When a rev CGI reads from StdIn it just gets the parameters and so GET will never work that way. To get that URL inside a rev CGI you need to use the $QUERY_STRING variable. The downside to using GET i

Re: revCopyFile chokes on 1,500 file loop

2006-08-04 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hi Sivakatirswami, Revolution issues the revCopyFile command but doesn't wait for the result. You might try getting the result after executing the command, although I don't know whether this really helps. I suspect that the revCopyFile command uses AppleScript on Mac OS X. If an execution

Re: revCopyFile chokes on 1,500 file loop

2006-08-04 Thread Mark Talluto
On Aug 4, 2006, at 1:57 AM, Sivakatirswami wrote: Goal: copy about 1,500 files from one set of directories to another directory with a new name on the server, not on the client machine, which is simply initiating, controlling the process remotely. Hi Sivakatirswami, I had this same pr

Re: qwe - better than undesignated puts?

2006-08-04 Thread Mark Talluto
On Aug 4, 2006, at 1:35 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: So for the low cost of three characters and a smidgen of self- discipline, you get an unambiguous way to rapidly find things you want to address throughout your code base. I also have been using such a system. I use --* for things to b

Re: qwe - better than undesignated puts?

2006-08-04 Thread Richard Gaskin
Jim Ault wrote: On 8/4/06 12:23 PM, "Josh Mellicker" wrote: I never liked using the Message box to show values ("put "here¹s MyVar now: " & MyVar"), for a few reasons, because it was a palette and covered important stuff up if I made it bigger, because I like to look at a lot of history someti

revCopyFile chokes on 1,500 file loop

2006-08-04 Thread Sivakatirswami
platform-network context: Mac OSX client with Rev app that is "talking to-about" files on an OSX Server across the LAN. All path stems look like /Volumes/Server/WWW/*Sites/www.himalayanacademy.com/html/audio/" Goal: copy about 1,500 files from one set of directories to another directory w

Re: form email to RevCGI

2006-08-04 Thread jbv
Chris, another question just popped up in my mind : you said you're using a GET request... how do you get the data you type into the form elements attached to the url of the GET request ? are you using js ? could it be that any javascript code you might use doesn't run in the email client while it

Re: form email to RevCGI

2006-08-04 Thread jbv
Chris, Have you tried sending the email with a PHP script instead of Rev cgi and check if the problem remains ? JB ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscrip

Re: qwe - better than undesignated puts?

2006-08-04 Thread Jim Ault
On 8/4/06 12:23 PM, "Josh Mellicker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I never liked using the Message box to show values ("put "here¹s > MyVar now: " & MyVar"), for a few reasons, because it was a palette > and covered important stuff up if I made it bigger, because I like to > look at a lot of history

Re: form email to RevCGI

2006-08-04 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hi Chris, First of all, the e-mail clients I sue let me turn off all the features that I would need to fill your your web forms and that's exactly what I did. I read my e-mail in text format only and if someone sends me an html formatted e-mail with too much of gibberich, I return a kind

qwe - better than undesignated puts?

2006-08-04 Thread Josh Mellicker
I never liked using the Message box to show values ("put "here’s MyVar now: " & MyVar"), for a few reasons, because it was a palette and covered important stuff up if I made it bigger, because I like to look at a lot of history sometimes, because it was problematic to find puts in my code s

Re: Saving externals in a standalone on OSX?

2006-08-04 Thread Dar Scott
On Aug 4, 2006, at 11:47 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: I have an app that downloads stack content. It stores those in the Application Support/ folder in OS X, which is where this stuff is technically supposed to go. I think command-line tools can go right next to the executable, but if they

RE: Studio License Renewal Cost

2006-08-04 Thread Lynn Fredricks
> > I've already expressed my dislike of the pricing structure. > But expressing it here on the mailing list does nothing but > cause unwanted and unneeded dissension among everyone on the > list and in the end, won't change Runtime's pricing structure anyway. > > Where else would be a good pl

Re: form email to RevCGI

2006-08-04 Thread HyperChris
All good questions. Thank you. Yes i checked the HTML i received in the email and it was the same code that I sent. None of the method code and script calls had been butchered. In fact, i could detach the html file (some email clients let you do this) and open it as a web page and it worked fin

RE: Studio License Renewal Cost

2006-08-04 Thread Jan Sælid
Gaskin Wrote: >For noise-making I suppose the list provides a certain satisfaction, but for results have you considered >writing to RunRev directly? Yes I have... This was the response: "Linux 2.7 will follow, it is a little delayed but is planned to appear in a few weeks time." This response i

Re: Studio License Renewal Cost

2006-08-04 Thread Richard Gaskin
dreamscapesoftware.com write: > Garrett Hylltun wrote: >> I've already expressed my dislike of the pricing structure. >> But expressing it here on the mailing list does nothing but >> cause unwanted and unneeded dissension among everyone on >> the list and in the end, won't change Runtime's prici

Re: Saving externals in a standalone on OSX?

2006-08-04 Thread J. Landman Gay
David Bovill wrote: Sorry tabkey problem with webmail :) On 04/08/06, David Bovill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Has anyone any thoughts on where to store "plugins" for a standalone on OSX? That is if your application is designed to be extensible by downloading code from the internet. This c

RE: Studio License Renewal Cost

2006-08-04 Thread Jan Sælid
>B.Marriot wrote >I don't like the pricing plan, either, to be honest. There's no guarantee that they will actually *do* anything >that matters to me in the year following the subscription. I really don't believe in paying for bug fixes. >To me, I prefer the simple model that if you're fixing a bu

Re: Saving externals in a standalone on OSX?

2006-08-04 Thread David Bovill
Sorry tabkey problem with webmail :) On 04/08/06, David Bovill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Has anyone any thoughts on where to store "plugins" for a standalone on OSX? That is if your application is designed to be extensible by downloading code from the internet. This code can be: 1) Rev

Re: Saving externals in a standalone on OSX?

2006-08-04 Thread David Bovill
Has anyone any thoughts on where to store "plugins" for a standalone on OSX? That is if your application is designed to be extensible by downloading code from the internet. This code can be: Rev stacks, but can also be Rev externals, or command line tools _

Re: Studio License Renewal Cost

2006-08-04 Thread Bill Marriott
My 1-year license for Studio 2.6.1 updates ran out something like a week before 2.7 was first released, back in February. In all that previous year I don't think I received (nor was there available) a single "update" for my money. Then I said -- oh, this is an interesting update, antialiased gr

Re: Studio License Renewal Cost

2006-08-04 Thread dreamscapesoftware.com - List
1. I am not saying that I want to get Revolution for free. 2. I am not saying that the people at RunRev are bad people. 3. I am not saying that any of you are bad people. What am I saying? For what you actually get in updates, the Renewal Cost is too high and should be dropped slightly. Th

Re: Studio License Renewal Cost

2006-08-04 Thread dreamscapesoftware.com - List
Garrett Hylltun wrote: > I've already expressed my dislike of the pricing structure. But expressing > it here on the mailing list does nothing but cause unwanted and unneeded > dissension among everyone on the list and in the end, won't change Runtime's > pricing structure anyway. Where else w

Re: [ANN] Listbox Tree Script TR1

2006-08-04 Thread Sean Shao
> I can think good uses for it as soon as you allow us to use it. You're free to use it.. It's under the "yoyomf" license (that's "Your On Your Own My Friend").. > It's working fine here on Rev 2.7.2 on an Intel Mac OS X 10.4.7. Cool.. I made it in 2.6.1 and it should work as far back as 2.0

MySQL Load Data Local

2006-08-04 Thread Michael Caufield
I too ran into this problem with MySQL 5 and was unable to solve it. I don't think it's anything to do with Revolution, it's MySQL's fault. I turned on the local-infile option but this made no difference. Actually, I probably should have stopped & re-started the SQL server after changing it, but i

Re: Studio License Renewal Cost

2006-08-04 Thread Stephen Barncard
I think the pricing is appropriate for a professional product. It's also the only way a little company can survive and still continue development. The features that's coming in the future (I can't talk about it - NDA) will make it all worthwhile. If you don't make money with the product and ar

Re: remove empty lines

2006-08-04 Thread Rob Cozens
Moi, replace return&return with return in it I took this from a script I have been using successfully for several years; but forgot that the application where it is used can never have more than one blank line in succession. :{( repeat while offset(return&return,it) <> 0

Re: ulTickleMe

2006-08-04 Thread Mark Smith
Dave, thanks. I just curious, really, and now I know! Best, Mark On 4 Aug 2006, at 06:40, Dave Cragg wrote: On 3 Aug 2006, at 18:22, Mark Smith wrote: Dave, (or anyone else who knows), what is the ulTickleMe message that I see in the pending messages? I'm assuming that the 'ul' connects

Re: Studio License Renewal Cost

2006-08-04 Thread Pierre Sahores
Dear Rev's Fellows, If you consider that the real world is never "perfect", Rev can't be perfect but it's our luck to be able to use it, even evry day ... Rev is developped by a very talentious RunRev team ; As a general purpose development tool, Rev let us develop all kinds of destop's an

Re: Studio License Renewal Cost

2006-08-04 Thread Viktoras Didziulis
Yes, for some of us on tight budgets it is indeed too costly. Therefore I will keep updating once per year unless it drops to $99. Then I think I will get more for the same price :-) All the best! Viktoras ---Original Message--- From: dreamscapesoftware.com - List Date: 08/04/06

Runtime Revolution Newsletter Issue 6

2006-08-04 Thread paolo mazza
Dear friends i really apreciated the last issue of Runtime Revolution Newsletter . For some reasons I have not received Runtime Revolution Newsletter Issue 5. In the home page (runrev.com) the last newsletter published is number 4. Where can I get the Runtime Revolution Newsletter Issue 5? Best re

RE: Studio License Renewal Cost

2006-08-04 Thread Jan Sælid
I have to agree with you. I'm very happy with rev but there are too many bugs and feature requests that needs to be taken care of before I upgrade. And where is Linux and unix? > If anyone else agree's that the upgrade cost is too high, let me know and speak up. __

Re: Studio License Renewal Cost

2006-08-04 Thread Garrett Hylltun
On Aug 4, 2006, at 12:32 AM, dreamscapesoftware.com - List wrote: Does anyone else cringe at the thought of dropping down $199 or more for a few new [snip] license once. Do I really need to pay Rev $199 for the "reLaunch" command?!!! Give me a break. If anyone else agree's that the up

Studio License Renewal Cost

2006-08-04 Thread dreamscapesoftware.com - List
Does anyone else cringe at the thought of dropping down $199 or more for a few new features on their choosen Development Platform? Does anyone else feel that $199 for a years worth of minor upgrades is not worth it? Does anyone else get annoyed that updates usually consist of 2 or 3 new featur