Re: what is titlebar?

2009-04-21 Thread François Chaplais
If my memory serves me well, the titlebar is the window's titlebar. On the original macs, the HC titlebar was hidden by the menubar. On larger screens, the titlebar would show, and so, to preserve the HC interface, it could be hidden by a command. Envoyé de mon iPhone Le 22 avr. 09 à 02:05

Re: 2 things

2009-04-21 Thread Mark Wieder
John- Tuesday, April 21, 2009, 9:00:07 PM, you wrote: > Amateurs. I still keep Apple ][ GS computers running (you want vblint > sync, that is all that is left; you want horizontal line scanning > sync: there is no other machine!). And Hypercard on the ][GS (full > colour!) was in many ways wh

Re: 2 things

2009-04-21 Thread John Vokey
Amateurs. I still keep Apple ][ GS computers running (you want vblint sync, that is all that is left; you want horizontal line scanning sync: there is no other machine!). And Hypercard on the ][GS (full colour!) was in many ways what hypercard should have been on the mac. It died with th

Re: command setthedata in the data grid api

2009-04-21 Thread Trevor DeVore
On Apr 21, 2009, at 8:55 PM, Sadhu Nadesan wrote: A brief status report, my app which revolves around the data grid is coming along smashingly. I have discovered an anomaly though which I don't have time to duplicate in a formal bug report this evening (maybe tomorrow, or maybe I will just

Re: OT: USED MACs

2009-04-21 Thread Scott Morrow
We run stuff like that ( I have mostly G3 iMacs, and some original, indestructible, clamshell iBooks) at my elementary school. Folks donate or we pick them up cheap and keep fixing. San Francisco is kind of a long drive though, even for a Cube and a G3 Wallstreet. : ) Scott Morrow Elem

Re: Datagrid SetDataOfIndex Error

2009-04-21 Thread Trevor DeVore
On Apr 21, 2009, at 7:04 PM, Josep wrote: The code from the field text: on rawkeydown thekey Global t_LineData switch thekey case 65293 put fld ftmp into t_LineData["Col 2"] send "SetDataOfIndex 1,2,fld ftmp" to group "datagrid" break default pass raw

Re: what is titlebar?

2009-04-21 Thread Mark Wieder
Devin- Tuesday, April 21, 2009, 5:24:48 PM, you wrote: > Dang, now you got me all curious... > > Found it! > Goodman, The Complete HyperCard 2.2 Handboook shows it as an option to > the hide command: > hide menubar | | | > titlebar > Wow, what a great reference tool that book was!

Re: what is titlebar?

2009-04-21 Thread dunbarx
Sarah. Once again, thanks. You know, it almost makes more sense to have that as a development preference than as a language component. I mean, as long as it is available, who needs to script it? Craig On Apr 21, 2009, at 8:54:48 PM, "Sarah Reichelt" wrote: Preferences -> Script Editor .

command setthedata in the data grid api

2009-04-21 Thread Sadhu Nadesan
Trevor, A brief status report, my app which revolves around the data grid is coming along smashingly. I have discovered an anomaly though which I don't have time to duplicate in a formal bug report this evening (maybe tomorrow, or maybe I will just work around it), but thought to pass it on

Re: OT: USED MACs

2009-04-21 Thread dunbarx
I keep ADB macs in stock because I run machinery with them using the old beeHive gadget. There was a guy in Troy, New York who had literally hundreds of blue and whites that he was selling for $5 each. I bought six. He might still be around. Craig Newman __

Re: what is titlebar?

2009-04-21 Thread Sarah Reichelt
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 10:51 AM, dunbarx wrote: > Titlebars aside, the same sort of HC legacy pertains to the "scriptTextSize" > (et. al). I miss having that little tool, and cannot understand why it is not > supported. I like being able to see large tracts of errors, bugs and coding > inaniti

Re: what is titlebar?

2009-04-21 Thread dunbarx
Titlebars aside, the same sort of HC legacy pertains to the "scriptTextSize" (et. al). I miss having that little tool, and cannot understand why it is not supported. I like being able to see large tracts of errors, bugs and coding inanities at a single glance, instead of having to scroll all the

Re: OT: USED MACs

2009-04-21 Thread Jim Ault
Wonder if there are any schools that are looking for old equipment.. our computer club used to donate old items to the day school and elementary levels whose budgets were non-existent. Usually some old tech guy was donating his time to keeping repairs and software in useable form. You kno

Re: what is titlebar?

2009-04-21 Thread Devin Asay
On Apr 21, 2009, at 6:05 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Devin- Tuesday, April 21, 2009, 4:36:31 PM, you wrote: If memory serves, they are just stubs, there for HyperCard compatibility. Sort of like userLevel--no effect, but HyperCard stacks don't break. No idea why they're not in the dictionary

Re: what is titlebar?

2009-04-21 Thread Mark Wieder
Devin- Tuesday, April 21, 2009, 4:36:31 PM, you wrote: > If memory serves, they are just stubs, there for HyperCard > compatibility. Sort of like userLevel--no effect, but HyperCard stacks > don't break. No idea why they're not in the dictionary Sounds like a good guess, but it's not in any of

Re: OT: USED MACs

2009-04-21 Thread Petrides, M.D. Marian
Stephen I do not live in the SF area but would be very interested in the Apple ][s with drives and cards but sans monitors. Also the Mac cube. (OK, I admit it. I'm STILL an Apple ][ fanatic!) I'd be glad to pay for packing and shipping from your place to mine in Columbia, MO if you'd be

OT: USED MACs

2009-04-21 Thread stephen barncard
I don't use the old stuff any more but I just rescued several of my old macs from storage, and any list member in San Francisco that wants to come over and adopt, be my guest I'd rather have them loved than go to E-waste ville. Mac Cube G4 450?mhz G4 500 mhz with that odd AGP 'Space Blasters' m

Re: what is titlebar?

2009-04-21 Thread Devin Asay
On Apr 21, 2009, at 5:21 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: All- hide titlebar show titlebar both are accepted but don't seem to do anything. I can't find anything in the documentation that would help. And trying to query the properties of titlebar or of "the" titlebar just gives errors. Any ideas? Mar

Re: 2 things

2009-04-21 Thread Judy Perry
Andre, See these: http://myapplenewton.blogspot.com/2009/03/koppen-it-is-possible-to-patch-newton.html http://newtonpoetry.com/2008/09/10/2010-newtpocalypse-without-an-update/ http://40hz.org/Pages/Newton%20Year%202010%20Problem So, you might want to get the fix as it looks like it may well ex

what is titlebar?

2009-04-21 Thread Mark Wieder
All- hide titlebar show titlebar both are accepted but don't seem to do anything. I can't find anything in the documentation that would help. And trying to query the properties of titlebar or of "the" titlebar just gives errors. Any ideas? -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net __

Re: 2 things

2009-04-21 Thread Kay C Lan
Richmond, I'd just like to acknowledge that I think this is the first post from you that doesn't 'break' the thread. Thanks so much for going to the trouble of registering with gmail. And in line with this thread, I still have a Mac Centris 650 running 7.6.1 still used on a regular (at least mont

Re: Searching for a tag name in XML

2009-04-21 Thread Sarah Reichelt
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 1:20 AM, David Bovill wrote: > Looks like there is no easy way to search for an XML node? I want to search > for a "" element in xHTML. I can pull it out by looking for a > particular value for the param - say border: > > put revXMLMatchingNode (treeID, pStartNode, "table",

Datagrid SetDataOfIndex Error

2009-04-21 Thread Josep
Hi, I'm trying to update one line in a datagrid from a field text, but I get this error. The handler: SetDataOfLine has reached the recursion limit of: 40. Execution will be terminated to prevent hang. The code from the field text: on rawkeydown thekey Global t_LineData switch theke

Re: Searching for a tag name in XML

2009-04-21 Thread Terry Judd
I usually forget revXML and just use replace, itemOffset etc. to parse XHTML. Terry... On 22/04/09 1:20 AM, "David Bovill" wrote: > Looks like there is no easy way to search for an XML node? I want to search > for a "" element in xHTML. I can pull it out by looking for a > particular value for

Re: [OT] Tatty, old computers.

2009-04-21 Thread Nicolas Cueto
By way of support, like Richmond I too run an English school, and for which I too have made a point of reusing old PCs (Win2K) and monitors. And for the same reasons Richmond spells out. The only difference in my set-up being, instead of special keyboards for children/learners (Richmond, I remembe

[ANN]: Kaleidoscope Gallery 2 (still crashing 3.5)

2009-04-21 Thread Wilhelm Sanke
I have uploaded a new Kaleidoscope Gallery containing about 100 images to (size 15 MBs). The zipped folder contains an updated version of my "Thumbs and Slides" stack for convenient viewing of the images (JPEG and PNG formats).. Start "

Re: 2 things

2009-04-21 Thread Judy Perry
Andre, Aren't the Newtons supposed to brick up in 2010? I'll try to locate the reference after class... I've got a MP120, a 2100 and an eMate :-) Judy On Tue, 21 Apr 2009, Andre Garzia wrote: Judy, which fix? I have an MP2000 with no trouble, even with compact flash support and wifi (yes!!!

Re: 2 things

2009-04-21 Thread Andre Garzia
Judy, which fix? I have an MP2000 with no trouble, even with compact flash support and wifi (yes) Andre On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 3:38 PM, Judy Perry wrote: > Andre, > > Do you have the Newton 2010 fix? Is it even done yet? > > Thanks, > > Judy > > On Mon, 20 Apr 2009, Andre Garzia wrote: > >

Re: [OT] Tatty, old computers.

2009-04-21 Thread stephen barncard
Hey Bro' if you got the time, then more power to ya. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://barncard.com 2009/4/21 Richmond Mathewson > As every single one of my computers is at least 5 years old (come, come, > the parts out of which > my Frankenstein Pentium 4 are

Re: [OT] Tatty, old computers.

2009-04-21 Thread Richmond Mathewson
As every single one of my computers is at least 5 years old (come, come, the parts out of which my Frankenstein Pentium 4 are composed must have a half century between them), I have a choice: 1. Chuck them out when bits go bust. 2. Learn, and repair things. The former is probably the root of

Re: [OT] Tatty, old computers.

2009-04-21 Thread stephen barncard
I guess the EU has lobbyists too. How nice for the manufacturers. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://barncard.com 2009/4/21 François Chaplais > > Le 21 avr. 09 à 18:32, Richmond Mathewson a écrit : > > < >> > > . > >> >> ---

Re: [OT] Tatty, old computers.

2009-04-21 Thread François Chaplais
Le 21 avr. 09 à 18:32, Richmond Mathewson a écrit : < . I am bemused by all the commercial hype to endlessly upgrade; most PCs currently

Re: Inheritance and Custom Properties

2009-04-21 Thread François Chaplais
Le 21 avr. 09 à 12:38, David Bovill a écrit : In general it's good not to use "do" for repeated actions because of its speed. I've actually not done a speed test, but I'm pretty sure calling a custom prop directly (see below) is much faster. Also using message inheritance will be much fast

Re: 2 things

2009-04-21 Thread Richmond Mathewson
Wow, Andre, that's the right attitude! Unfortunately about 9 of my older computers are stuffed in the attic of my house in St Andrews, Scotland, and I have yet to work out how to get them to Bulgaria (especially my 'first love', my BBC Master Compact). I had great fun 2 years ago, on holiday in

Re: 2 things

2009-04-21 Thread Judy Perry
Andre, Do you have the Newton 2010 fix? Is it even done yet? Thanks, Judy On Mon, 20 Apr 2009, Andre Garzia wrote: I have lots of old machines here, my motto is "buy, keep it working, never sell", so I got everything, from old newton message pads to the latest core 2 duo here. Everything ha

Re: Retrieve html code from webpage

2009-04-21 Thread Warren . Kuhl
Scott/Stephen, Thanks for your help...appreciate it. This worked perfect now! Warren From: Scott Rossi

[OT] Tatty, old computers.

2009-04-21 Thread Richmond Mathewson
Following recent remarks about my computers I feel a need to explain why I use "tatty, old computers" most of the time: 4 years ago I 'sat on my bottom' for about a year, having reached a stage in my life where I really didn't feel an urge to work for any state institutions. At that time I dec

Re: Retrieve html code from webpage

2009-04-21 Thread Scott Rossi
Recently, warren.k...@northerntool.com wrote: > I am trying to capture the raw html code from a webpage. I am trying: > > set the htmltext of field "Field 1" to url "http://www.website.com/"; > > When I look at my field, I am not getting the html tags (ie. > ., etc.). Is it possible to ge

Re: Retrieve html code from webpage

2009-04-21 Thread stephen barncard
set the TEXT of field "Field 1" to url "http://www.website.com/"; setting the htmltext will 'decode' the html and leave only the intended readable text. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://barncard.com 2009/4/21 : > I am trying to capture the raw html code from a

Re: Valentina DB 4.1 Introduces Groundbreaking SQL Feature

2009-04-21 Thread Ruslan Zasukhin
On 4/21/09 6:15 PM, "David Bovill" wrote: Hi David, > Great! Couple of questions: > >1. Do you have a url to point to the syntax for addressing hierarchical >data? Yes. This is ARICLE "Hierarchical (Recursive) Queries in Valentina SQL", where we show

Retrieve html code from webpage

2009-04-21 Thread Warren . Kuhl
I am trying to capture the raw html code from a webpage. I am trying: set the htmltext of field "Field 1" to url "http://www.website.com/"; When I look at my field, I am not getting the html tags (ie. ., etc.). Is it possible to get the raw html code from a webpage? Thanks! Warren __

RE: Valentina DB 4.1 Introduces Groundbreaking SQL Feature

2009-04-21 Thread Lynn Fredricks
> Great! Couple of questions: > >1. Do you have a url to point to the syntax for addressing > hierarchical >data? http://valentina-db.com/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=valentina:vcomponents:vsql:refe rence:recursive_query_commands http://valentina-db.com/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=valentina:articles:re

Searching for a tag name in XML

2009-04-21 Thread David Bovill
Looks like there is no easy way to search for an XML node? I want to search for a "" element in xHTML. I can pull it out by looking for a particular value for the param - say border: put revXMLMatchingNode (treeID, pStartNode, "table", "border", "2", -1) into foundNode but given that it may or ma

Re: Valentina DB 4.1 Introduces Groundbreaking SQL Feature

2009-04-21 Thread David Bovill
Great! Couple of questions: 1. Do you have a url to point to the syntax for addressing hierarchical data? 2. Any plans to have Valentina support with On-Rev? 2009/4/21 Lynn Fredricks * Recursive SQL Queries. An advanced feature thought to be the first > implementation in databases: re

Valentina DB 4.1 Introduces Groundbreaking SQL Feature

2009-04-21 Thread Lynn Fredricks
Valentina DB 4.1 Introduces Groundbreaking SQL Feature Paradigma Software announces the release of Valentina DB 4.1, a general product release including a special, new feature for managing hierarchical data with recursive SQL commands. Valentina DB 4.1 provides both performance improvements and s

Re: [OT] Deciding about On-Rev

2009-04-21 Thread George C Brackett
Phil's answer is a very good one; I'd like to expand on it a bit. When you log in to a server via SSH, you have command-line access to it, meaning that in essence you are sitting in front of it running the equivalent of Terminal on the Mac or Run on Windows (I think that's right). Many thi

Re: Test - ignore

2009-04-21 Thread Kay C Lan
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 7:08 PM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: > ignored. > Ignored - Failed. Next test? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferenc

Re: [OT] Deciding about On-Rev

2009-04-21 Thread Colin Holgate
On Apr 21, 2009, at 1:16 AM, Phil Davis wrote: Colin Holgate wrote: What does SSH give you that you don't get with the secure disk image access? I assume when you say "secure disk image access" you're talking about WebDAV, which is what on-rev offers. I think I was probably thinking mo

Re: Subdomains

2009-04-21 Thread Kay C Lan
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 7:05 PM, Martin Baxter < mb.use...@harbourhosting.co.uk> wrote: > > I didn't know MX records could be sexed up. Is that legal? > > I hope not. Now I'm really starting to get excited about on-rev ;-) ___ use-revolution mailing list

Re: [OT] Opinions about On-Rev

2009-04-21 Thread Kay C Lan
Thanks Chipp, Martin, Sarah and Bill (for an extremely comprehensive answer) for opening up my understanding. Starting to get excited :-) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and

Re: [OT] Deciding about On-Rev

2009-04-21 Thread George C Brackett
Heather didn't give a time-frame, or I would have included it in my message. It was 'soon,' as I recall. George On Apr 21, 2009, at 3:31 AM, Klaus Major wrote: Hi George, I had a couple of questions that Heather answered, and others may be interested: 1. On-Rev will ultimately include d

Re: hilite 'sticking' in certain option menus and fields

2009-04-21 Thread Martin Blackman
I reported Bug 7982 on this, listed as minor. http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=7982 Also filed bug 7983 on strange menu behaviour, this ones a beauty, with a screenshot. http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=7983 2009/4/20 Martin Blackman : > Thanks Francis, setting

Re: Test - ignore

2009-04-21 Thread Thomas McGrath III
ignored. On Apr 21, 2009, at 6:09 AM, Richmond Mathewson wrote: Test to see if new e-mail is cleared yet ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription pre

Re: Subdomains

2009-04-21 Thread Martin Baxter
Bill Marriott wrote: [much intersting stuff snipped] > - You can integrate your on-Rev service with existing, external sites hosted > by clients. For example, your client has the domain bigcorp.com. They can > set up a subdomain revapps.bigcorp.com that points to your on-rev server > (they do

Re: Inheritance and Custom Properties

2009-04-21 Thread David Bovill
In general it's good not to use "do" for repeated actions because of its speed. I've actually not done a speed test, but I'm pretty sure calling a custom prop directly (see below) is much faster. Also using message inheritance will be much faster than repeating manually through all the controls in

Test - ignore

2009-04-21 Thread Richmond Mathewson
Test to see if new e-mail is cleared yet ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution

Re: [OT] Opinions about On-Rev

2009-04-21 Thread Sarah Reichelt
> So that only leaves the multiple email accounts. Will I be able to create > cluel...@kaylan.on-rev.com and neoph...@kaylan.on-rev.com PLUS (assuming > I've paid GoDaddy) i...@kaylan.com, l...@kaylan.com supp...@kaylan.com etc - > all created/administered at on-rev? Yes. Once you sign up, you get

Re: [OT] Opinions about On-Rev

2009-04-21 Thread Sarah Reichelt
> Perhaps this will make it easier to understand. When you first sign-up to > on-rev you'll have to specify a sub-domain you want. Say you use the > subdomain "kaylan" so your domain access for accessing your server will > looklike kaylan.on-rev.com. That's the only subdomain you'll have for the >

Subdomains (was: Re: [OT] Opinions about On-Rev)

2009-04-21 Thread Bill Marriott
Kay, > I get one Main domain name and unlimited Sub domains, so if I sign up with > lan.on-rev.com I can subsequently create kc.lan.on-rev.com and > dj.lan.on-rev.com. I just want to confirm that Sub domains are added to > the > left - seems important when picking a name. - Yes, when you buy an

Re: [OT] Opinions about On-Rev

2009-04-21 Thread Kay C Lan
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 4:02 PM, Chipp Walters wrote: > > Using CNAMEs, you can create all sorts of subdomains for kaylan.com such > as: > www.kaylan.com and blog.kaylan.com and labs.kaylan.com and shop.kaylan.com > > And you can do the same for all your domains you point to their servers. > > Ma

Re: [OT] Opinions about On-Rev

2009-04-21 Thread Chipp Walters
Kay, Perhaps this will make it easier to understand. When you first sign-up to on-rev you'll have to specify a sub-domain you want. Say you use the subdomain "kaylan" so your domain access for accessing your server will looklike kaylan.on-rev.com. That's the only subdomain you'll have for the on-re

Re: [OT] Opinions about On-Rev

2009-04-21 Thread Martin Baxter
Kay C Lan wrote: > On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 1:05 PM, Chipp Walters wrote: > >> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 9:21 PM, Kay C Lan >> wrote: >> >>> OK, I've had time to sift through all the advise, and again, thanks to >>> everyone for the responses. So now just to confirm I'm not lost, just >>> befuddled

Re: [OT] Deciding about On-Rev

2009-04-21 Thread Klaus Major
Hi George, I had a couple of questions that Heather answered, and others may be interested: 1. On-Rev will ultimately include domain registration services, as many other hosts do. That'ws very good news! I must confess I am a bit lost in my switch... Any timeframe for this service? Or sh

RE: Re:convert to scientific notation

2009-04-21 Thread Randall Reetz
Just devide the number by the number of digits in the truncated number minus one, multiplied by ten. put (n/(((the number of chars in (trunc(n)))-1)*10)&&"x 10^"&((the number of chars in (trunc(n)))-1) -Original Message- From: "James Hurley" To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: