Re: [OT] They Criticized Vista. And They Should Know.

2008-03-13 Thread David Flanders
Hi Guys, Although Word looks better in it's new release ( I did follow the link Richard G. provided ), it's so big I think they should split the program up, providing simpler control input (intelligence). bye David David Flanders - [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Mar 12, 2008,

Re: [OT] They Criticized Vista. And They Should Know.

2008-03-13 Thread Scott Rossi
Recently, Lynn Fredricks wrote: At the time was thinking about huge corporations that have settled in on using Office, or various government agencies. Even fairly mild updates, like Office 97-2000, there's a lot of training that usually takes place to get everyone up to speed. But then

RE: [OT] They Criticized Vista. And They Should Know.

2008-03-13 Thread Lynn Fredricks
New thinking is good. It may not always work (witness Apple's decision to use documents within folders as iconic folder representations in Leopard) but it needs to happen. With new thinking, we get things like GLX2, a new way of editing projects in Rev. So while new, and maybe a bit

Re: [OT] They Criticized Vista. And They Should Know.

2008-03-13 Thread Chipp Walters
On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 2:11 AM, Scott Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: New thinking is good. Sure, I don't argue new thinking is a great way to do new things. Take the iPhone for instance. A lot of new thinking went into it, and it shows, though the whole finger as pointing device I do take

Re: [OT] They Criticized Vista. And They Should Know.

2008-03-13 Thread Chipp Walters
One other thing about Ribbon. Microsoft now has incorporated it into it's own MS Office User Interface Guidelines. So, they encourage licensees, or actually demand they abide by certain rules or else they violate the terms of the license the User Interface Guidelines. Which pretty much means they

Re: [OT] They Criticized Vista. And They Should Know.

2008-03-13 Thread David Flanders
Hi Lynn, On Mar 13, 2008, at 10:54 AM, Lynn Fredricks wrote: Microsoft doesn't usually make decisions that affect its big two of Office/Windows without having reasons to do it - Im sure there was loads of research done. I actually participated in some of that in the Windows 2000 era (and

[OT] They Criticized Vista. And They Should Know.

2008-03-12 Thread Scott Rossi
Sadly disturbing. Makes one wonder who's making the decisions over in Redmond. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/09/business/09digi.html?_r=1oref=slogin Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design ___ use-revolution

RE: [OT] They Criticized Vista. And They Should Know.

2008-03-12 Thread Lynn Fredricks
Sadly disturbing. Makes one wonder who's making the decisions over in Redmond. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/09/business/09digi.html?_r=1or ef=slogin I've told everyone in my company not to upgrade - if we get a new Vista machine, leave it. But otherwise, don't upgrade. Way, way too many

Re: [OT] They Criticized Vista. And They Should Know.

2008-03-12 Thread Richard Gaskin
Scott Rossi wrote: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/09/business/09digi.html?_r=1oref=slogin Sadly disturbing. Makes one wonder who's making the decisions over in Redmond. Magic 8-Ball? :) -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation

Re: [OT] They Criticized Vista. And They Should Know.

2008-03-12 Thread Josh Mellicker
On Mar 12, 2008, at 12:38 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/09/business/09digi.html? _r=1oref=slogin Hee hee hee. - Steve Jobs ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to

Re: [OT] They Criticized Vista. And They Should Know.

2008-03-12 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
Jim, I love it. Of course, I love all sorts of conspiracy theories - even the really stupid ones. After the kinds of things Gates pulled, initially, he would have deserved such treatment. (smile) Besides, The Pirates of Silicon Valley needs a sequel. Joe Wilkins On Mar 12, 2008, at 1:27

Re: [OT] They Criticized Vista. And They Should Know.

2008-03-12 Thread Mikey
We've deployed exactly one vista box. Since that time I've bought several more XP boxes just to avoid vista. I still have a vista box we purchased sitting in its box. It's probably going to stay there for the foreseeable future. On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 3:37 PM, Joe Lewis Wilkins [EMAIL

Re: [OT] They Criticized Vista. And They Should Know.

2008-03-12 Thread Jim Ault
On 3/12/08 11:00 AM, Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scott Rossi wrote: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/09/business/09digi.html?_r=1oref=slogin Sadly disturbing. Makes one wonder who's making the decisions over in Redmond. Magic 8-Ball? :) My current theory is that in a

Re: [OT] They Criticized Vista. And They Should Know.

2008-03-12 Thread Chipp Walters
On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 1:37 PM, Joe Lewis Wilkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jim, I love it. Of course, I love all sorts of conspiracy theories - even the really stupid ones. After the kinds of things Gates pulled, initially, he would have deserved such treatment. (smile) No arguing Gates has

Re: [OT] They Criticized Vista. And They Should Know.

2008-03-12 Thread Chipp Walters
No kidding. The simple fact is, it's an inferior product at this time. WinXP takes less memory, and generally work much faster. One of the issues as I see it is MS took what...5 years to release this, compared to Apple's regular release around every 2 years? Compound it with the contradiction

Re: [OT] They Criticized Vista. And They Should Know.

2008-03-12 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
Interesting article; but, as it also points out, the RECORD doesn't necessarily tell the whole story, since those with bad/evil images are the ones who need to make PUBLIC their good deeds in order to attempt to fix things, much as the philandering spouse who unexpectedly brings home roses

Re: [OT] They Criticized Vista. And They Should Know.

2008-03-12 Thread Thomas McGrath III
Chipp, others, I tried to open google docs in my REV browser and it said I needed to use a more up to date browser. BUT it will open in Safari. I think it is a catch all error though since on the web in safari it needs to or wants to open a new window. Has anyone or yourself tried to

Re: [OT] They Criticized Vista. And They Should Know.

2008-03-12 Thread Chipp Walters
Let me get this straight. You're telling me the most noteworthy CEO performer of all time, keeps all his charity contributions a secret, EXCEPT for those done for the Democratic Party. Right. Frankly, I doubt any of the school children aided by the 2 billion dollars care WHY they are the

Re: [OT] They Criticized Vista. And They Should Know.

2008-03-12 Thread Chipp Walters
Hi Tom, Nope, I haven't, but I'll ask Chris about it, and hopefully let you know what he says. best, Chipp On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 9:12 PM, Thomas McGrath III [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chipp, others, I tried to open google docs in my REV browser and it said I needed to use a more up to date

RE: [OT] They Criticized Vista. And They Should Know.

2008-03-12 Thread Lynn Fredricks
The simple fact is, there is ZERO compelling reason for the average user to want to upgrade. Period. That's pretty sorry for five plus years in development. With regard to Office, it's not the OS, but a completely different interface. So instead of evolutionary, it's revolutionary.

Re: [OT] They Criticized Vista. And They Should Know.

2008-03-12 Thread Chipp Walters
IMO, one of the most interesting parts of the new Office interface, is it's complete disdain for the past. In fact, ask any user of pre-2007 Office how to simply Open or Print a document, and they're confounded. The old File, Edit, ... menu structure is just GONE. Completely. Replaced by a round

Re: [OT] They Criticized Vista. And They Should Know.

2008-03-12 Thread Richard Gaskin
Chipp Walters wrote: IMO, one of the most interesting parts of the new Office interface, is it's complete disdain for the past. In fact, ask any user of pre-2007 Office how to simply Open or Print a document, and they're confounded. The old File, Edit, ... menu structure is just GONE.

Re: [OT] They Criticized Vista. And They Should Know.

2008-03-12 Thread David Coker
On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 10:48 PM, Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chipp Walters wrote: IMO, one of the most interesting parts of the new Office interface, is it's complete disdain for the past. In fact, ask any user of pre-2007 Office how to simply Open or Print a document, and