Re: [OT] iPhone anyone?

2007-07-13 Thread wouter
On 01 Jul 2007, at 07:42, Chipp Walters wrote: -- snip -- - Battery good for only 400 charges, then you have to return the phone to Apple (what do you do for a phone while it's getting a new battery replacement? -- snip -- FYI : http://www.macworld.com/weblogs/macword/2007/07/

Re: [OT] iPhone anyone?

2007-07-13 Thread Chipp Walters
That's certainly good news for iPhones owners! On 7/13/07, wouter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FYI : http://www.macworld.com/weblogs/macword/2007/07/ iphonebattery/index.php ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit

Re: [OT] iPhone anyone?

2007-07-02 Thread Judy Perry
You don't want much, do you ? ;-) Judy On Sun, 1 Jul 2007, Richard Gaskin wrote: No iPhone for me. I'm holding out for a device with: - Phone - Still camera (5mpx or greater - Video (HD) - Voice recorder - MP3/OGG player - GPS - AM, FM, NOAA/weather band, and most importantly

Re: [OT] iPhone anyone?

2007-07-02 Thread Andre Garzia
What I always wanted was a phone that exposed itself in some sane API for some lightweight language such as lisp or forth. For example, here in Brazil you have your phone number as a 8 digits phone. If you're on a different state (or city) you need to put the 2 digits DDD (distance direct call)

Re: [OT] iPhone anyone?

2007-07-02 Thread Peter T. Evensen
It shouldn't be that hard. The code should be the same, just a different database of words. I would assume they put more frequently used words first. Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: Well, what Apple has already done is pretty extraordinary; but handling the anticipation/substitution/completion

Re: [OT] iPhone anyone?

2007-07-01 Thread Scott Rossi
Recently, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: Guess Apple needs to implement voice input someway. Perhaps not. There's a vibrational technology that sounds very promising for this and other cell phones. It uses the built-in vibration mode of the phone combined with a split second timing algorithm that

Re: [OT] iPhone anyone?

2007-07-01 Thread Ian Wood
On 1 Jul 2007, at 02:39, Chipp Walters wrote: (Side note: there WILL be a huge market in 3rd party styluses for this thing.) Given that the touch screen is working off skin conductance it might not be as straightforward as that. Simply tapping the screen with a solid object doesn't

Re: [OT] iPhone anyone?

2007-07-01 Thread Marian Petrides
That's correct. A neighbor kept trying to tap mine with his fingernail no response. On Jul 1, 2007, at 4:44 AM, Ian Wood wrote: On 1 Jul 2007, at 02:39, Chipp Walters wrote: (Side note: there WILL be a huge market in 3rd party styluses for this thing.) Given that the touch screen

Re: [OT] iPhone anyone?

2007-07-01 Thread Mark Wieder
Stephen- Saturday, June 30, 2007, 3:16:04 PM, you wrote: Not me. I'm not an 'early adopter' at all. With Apple's viral marketing around the iPhone, I think people have forgotten the cardinal rule never buy v1.0 of *anything*. -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [OT] iPhone anyone?

2007-07-01 Thread jbv
Mark , Stephen- Saturday, June 30, 2007, 3:16:04 PM, you wrote: Not me. I'm not an 'early adopter' at all. With Apple's viral marketing around the iPhone, I think people have forgotten the cardinal rule never buy v1.0 of *anything*. Mmmh... I think that rule works only with gear that

Re: [OT] iPhone anyone?

2007-07-01 Thread Andre Garzia
I have a macbook v1.0, no hardware ever gave me as much trouble as this machine... even my old g3 iBook thats seven years old, or my newton that is more than 10 years old, never gave me such trouble as that machine. :-/ On 7/1/07, Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stephen- Saturday, June

Re: [OT] iPhone anyone?

2007-07-01 Thread Ken Ray
On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 20:39:57 -0500, Chipp Walters wrote: - Absolutely could not type on the keyboard. Very difficult. Perhaps my fingers are too large. Where's the stylus when you need one? (Side note: there WILL be a huge market in 3rd party styluses for this thing.) My guess is

Re: [OT] iPhone anyone?

2007-07-01 Thread Mark Wieder
jb- Sunday, July 1, 2007, 9:15:11 AM, you wrote: Mmmh... I think that rule works only with gear that you want to use, not with stuff that you just want to show off with... rotfl. I do indeed stand corrected... -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [OT] iPhone anyone?

2007-07-01 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
This is going to make the keyboard highly english dependent, I should think. I haven't even been concerned with localizing my projects, but for the iPhone to have truly universal appeal that is probably a must concern for its software. Joe Wilkins On Jul 1, 2007, at 9:48 AM, Ken Ray

Re: [OT] iPhone anyone?

2007-07-01 Thread Stephen Barncard
Though I must add that I'm very trusting of Rev and use the latest versions now! Stephen- Saturday, June 30, 2007, 3:16:04 PM, you wrote: Not me. I'm not an 'early adopter' at all. With Apple's viral marketing around the iPhone, I think people have forgotten the cardinal rule never

Re: [OT] iPhone anyone?

2007-07-01 Thread Ken Ray
On Sun, 1 Jul 2007 10:08:22 -0700, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: This is going to make the keyboard highly english dependent, I should think. I haven't even been concerned with localizing my projects, but for the iPhone to have truly universal appeal that is probably a must concern for its

Re: [OT] iPhone anyone?

2007-07-01 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
Well, what Apple has already done is pretty extraordinary; but handling the anticipation/substitution/completion factor to the keyboard selections with all of the various languages has got to be much harder by a factor of really huge. I wish them luck. I think I'd been inclined to

Re: [OT] iPhone anyone?

2007-07-01 Thread Stephen Barncard
Chipp, My Japanese-speaking son wanted to know if the iPhone displays UNICODE!! sqb -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to

Re: [OT] iPhone anyone?

2007-07-01 Thread Chipp Walters
Hi Ken, Well, I was trying to type in Dripping Springs, TX into the Map app, and it was very, very hard. It couldn't figure out the Dripping part at all. From what I've read in some of the forums, the predictive typing is a mixed bag of blessing and curse. Of course the video from Apple shows

Re: [OT] iPhone anyone?

2007-07-01 Thread Chipp Walters
BTW, I did watch the video. At the beginning, it shows 1 finger covering 4 characters. That's a fat finger! (Probably mine). And, that's the problem I have. When a single finger covers that many keys, it not only makes it difficult to figure out which key you are typing, but also it hides 3

Re: [OT] iPhone anyone?

2007-07-01 Thread SimPLsol
Chipp, According to a current rumor on Apple Insider, the next gen iPhone will have the keyboard in landscape mode (instead of portrait). Should make more finger room. Glad you waited? Paul Looney ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Re: [OT] iPhone anyone?

2007-07-01 Thread Bill Vlahos
I tried typing using the on-screen keyboard and it worked very well. My fingers are not small. As others pointed out, a standard stylus won't give the conductance needed. However, I suspect that it won't take long for someone to come out with an imitation finger as a stylus and will

Re: [OT] iPhone anyone?

2007-07-01 Thread Bill Vlahos
Been a Mac user too long. I meant to say, ...using my finger... Bill On Jul 1, 2007, at 3:53 PM, Bill Vlahos wrote: Although after using my finder I'd say it works pretty well and isn't something I'm likely to lose. ___ use-revolution mailing

Re: [OT] iPhone anyone?

2007-07-01 Thread Richard Gaskin
No iPhone for me. I'm holding out for a device with: - Phone - Still camera (5mpx or greater - Video (HD) - Voice recorder - MP3/OGG player - GPS - AM, FM, NOAA/weather band, and most importantly Shortwave radio - Internet/web/email - Optional satellite phone service module - OPEN ARCHITECTURE

Re: [OT] iPhone anyone?

2007-07-01 Thread Chipp Walters
Well, Let's see how many of your checklist iPhone satisfies... On 7/1/07, Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No iPhone for me. I'm holding out for a device with: - Phone Check - Still camera (5mpx or greater Check (but not 5mpx) - Video (HD) Check on Video Playback, No check

Re: [OT] iPhone anyone?

2007-07-01 Thread Richard Gaskin
Chipp Walters wrote: On 7/1/07, Richard Gaskin ambassador at fourthworld.com wrote: No iPhone for me. I'm holding out for a device with: ... - Video (HD) Check on Video Playback, No check on Video record Yes, should have clarified: not just video playback, but needs to also be a

[OT] iPhone anyone?

2007-06-30 Thread Chipp Walters
OK, fess up. Which ones of you (Stephen?) waited in line yesterday to get their hands on iPhone? How was/is it? I didn't get one yet..I think I'll wait for V2 when they kick up the speed to 3G. Cool things: - Plays Music and Video - State-of-the-Art interface - Real and Full WebBrowser

Re: [OT] iPhone anyone?

2007-06-30 Thread michael
I will get one anyways but I'm going to wait until greater coverage for a phone signal. - Original Message - From: Chipp Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2007 1:15 PM Subject: [OT] iPhone anyone? OK, fess

Re: [OT] iPhone anyone?

2007-06-30 Thread Stephen Barncard
Not me. I'm not an 'early adopter' at all. I didn't switch to OSX until 10.2. I also don't want to be tied into ANY provider longer than a year. And I'll wait until I have more of a provider choice and the phone is less than $300. Otherwise if that's the gauntlet I have to run, including

Re: [OT] iPhone anyone?

2007-06-30 Thread Dave Cragg
On 30 Jun 2007, at 19:15, Chipp Walters wrote: OK, fess up. Which ones of you (Stephen?) waited in line yesterday to get their hands on iPhone? How was/is it? Better than any iPhone, get a 20 inch iMac and run Vista on it. With the sleek, glassy interface, it looks just like a huge

Re: [OT] iPhone anyone?

2007-06-30 Thread Marian Petrides
I stood online after work last night but didn't snag one. Had to drive 2 hours into St. Louis today, but was able to get one. I like it a LOT but really wish that it supported disk mode--I have a ton of text files and PDFs I'd really like to store on my iPhone. The EDGE network is

Re: [OT] iPhone anyone?

2007-06-30 Thread Chipp Walters
Well, I finally went down to the Apple store to check it out. Of course the place was packed. They had about 30 iPhones there people could play with. Some observations: - Most definitely 'perfectly sized' form factor. Beautiful finish. - Software and interface extremely intuitive. All of it

Re: [OT] iPhone anyone?

2007-06-30 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
How was the lighting and the size of the numbers/letters? Did the lighting turn off pretty quickly the way it does on most cell phones I've used? Joe Wilkins On Jun 30, 2007, at 6:39 PM, Chipp Walters wrote: Well, I finally went down to the Apple store to check it out. Of course the

Re: [OT] iPhone anyone?

2007-06-30 Thread Marian Petrides
Actually, I'm able to type quite fast with a single finger on my iPhone, but my hands are quite small. It'll take a while for me to be able to type with two thumbs, but I rarely do that anyway. One trick that really does work is to just type and depend on the predictive typing to

Re: [OT] iPhone anyone?

2007-06-30 Thread Brent Anderson
The vanishing images is Google Maps, not the iPhone. It will work if you find an area with high-res satellite coverage. On Jun 30, 2007, at 8:58 PM, Marian Petrides wrote: Actually, I'm able to type quite fast with a single finger on my iPhone, but my hands are quite small. It'll take a

Re: [OT] iPhone anyone?

2007-06-30 Thread Chipp Walters
On 6/30/07, Brent Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The vanishing images is Google Maps, not the iPhone. It will work if you find an area with high-res satellite coverage. Nope, not the case in my use of it. I know the map and the area. It just keep kicking me out to the main iPhone

Re: [OT] iPhone anyone?

2007-06-30 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
Thanks, Chipp. Sounds promising. Guess Apple needs to implement voice input someway. I know it's tough, particularly with background noise, but that would make it a truly great instrument. A good Stylus would be acceptable of course. Joe Wilkins On Jun 30, 2007, at 8:20 PM, Chipp Walters

Re: [OT] iPhone anyone?

2007-06-30 Thread Chipp Walters
Another follow-up on the iPhone: Some more Positives: - Keyboard becomes larger when in landscape mode--but only in Safari - Has a small external speaker so you can hear YouTube videos - Apple says software updates will be free - Most people claim the battery is pretty good And some