Re: [even more OT] Talking Heads

2009-03-24 Thread Richard Gaskin
Peter Alcibiades wrote: Probably Richard Gaskin is mistaken for a similar reason in saying that "All open source applications that run on Windows, Mac, or any other non-FOSS OS are just as "proprietary" as any Rev project released under similar license." No, not really. If its OSS, you have th

Re: [even more OT] Talking Heads

2009-03-24 Thread Judy Perry
Well, the problem here is that the vampires bite the other way; increasingly here the vampires are the major huge companies holding IP rights and they issue subpeona's/lawsuits against network printers and old people who don't even own computers and bleed them dry. Fun stuff like that. Not that I

[even more OT] Talking Heads

2009-03-24 Thread Richmond Mathewson
Peter Alcibiades wrote: "they were probably right." I didn't say they were wrong; I said I thought they were silly. I am not a purist; in fact there are quite a few people I know who believe I am about the most "impure" person there is :) The folks at Ubuntu would like us to believe they are p

Re: [even more OT] Talking Heads

2009-03-24 Thread Jan Schenkel
Library for Revolution <http://www.quartam.com> = "As we grow older, we grow both wiser and more foolish at the same time." (La Rochefoucauld) --- On Tue, 3/24/09, viktoras d. wrote: > From: viktoras d. > Subject: Re: [even more OT] Talking Heads > To: "How to use Revol

Re: [even more OT] Talking Heads

2009-03-24 Thread viktoras d.
but then what is the status of java? There are tons of open source apps in java (http://java-source.net/), but a.f.a.i.k. java is not open source otherwise IBM wouldn't urge SUN to make it OSS: http://news.cnet.com/2100-1007_3-5165427.html. Well, it is 5 years old "news". Viktoras Peter Alci

Re: [even more OT] Talking Heads

2009-03-24 Thread Peter Alcibiades
free, they were built using proprietary software. > > Personally I thought they were being a bit silly. > > > -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/-even-more-OT--Talking-Heads-tp22666547p22676337.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

[even more OT] Talking Heads

2009-03-23 Thread Richmond Mathewson
The main problem, in Bulgaria at least, is that one would spend so much money in court that defending one's copyright would not be worth it. The word 'vampire' occurs to me. sincerely, Richmond Mathewson. A Thorn in the flesh is bette

Re: [even more OT] Talking Heads

2009-03-23 Thread Judy Perry
Yes, I've seen this, but thank you for reminding me of it! Judy http://revined.blogspot.com On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 9:48 PM, Kay C Lan wrote: > On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 12:41 PM, Judy Perry >wrote: > > And yet, what is maddeningly undocumented is the whole fair use defense. > > But at least, he

Re: [even more OT] Talking Heads

2009-03-23 Thread Kay C Lan
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 12:41 PM, Judy Perry wrote: And yet, what is maddeningly undocumented is the whole fair use defense. > But at least, here in the US, it actually exists to some degree, unlike > some countries. > You could start here: http://fairuse.stanford.edu/Copyright_and_Fair_Use_Ove

Re: [even more OT] Talking Heads

2009-03-23 Thread Judy Perry
> > The differences between what should be patented, copyrighted or trademarked > is reasonably well documented, though often creatively applied. > > And yet, what is maddeningly undocumented is the whole fair use defense. But at least, here in the US, it actually exists to some degree, unlike som

RE: [even more OT] Talking Heads

2009-03-23 Thread Lynn Fredricks
> Lynn Fredricks wrote: > > "I think we are agreed that the Patent system is on the Road > to Nowhere :-)" I was refering to a title of a Talking Heads song :-) > Um: > > 1. Copyright? > > 2. Open Source? > > 3. Co-existence between several models. > > And, in the case of software, where d

Re: [even more OT] Talking Heads

2009-03-23 Thread Richard Gaskin
Richmond Mathewson wrote: A while ago I wrote a message to one of the high-ups at Ubuntu offering to let them have FREE linux versions of a couple of programs I made about 6 years ago about Phonetics using RR. They were refused on the grounds that, while I was entitled to distribute standalones

[even more OT] Talking Heads

2009-03-23 Thread Richmond Mathewson
Lynn Fredricks wrote: "I think we are agreed that the Patent system is on the Road to Nowhere :-)" Um: 1. Copyright? 2. Open Source? 3. Co-existence between several models. And, in the case of software, where does a patent end and copyright start? Consider a small problem:

RE: [even more OT] Talking Heads

2009-03-23 Thread Lynn Fredricks
> > A facinating read :-) > > Agreed. However, my favorite legal read of the day is > > http://www.legalunderground.com/2004/02/i_was_ready_to_.html I think we are agreed that the Patent system is on the Road to Nowhere :-) Best regards, Lynn Fredricks President Paradigma Software http://www.p

[even more OT] Talking Heads

2009-03-23 Thread Mark Wieder
Lynn- Monday, March 23, 2009, 10:06:41 AM, you wrote: > A facinating read :-) Agreed. However, my favorite legal read of the day is http://www.legalunderground.com/2004/02/i_was_ready_to_.html -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolut