This is my least favorite, and least used, part of the IDE UI.
Judy
On Mon, 28 Mar 2005, Mikey wrote:
> I think I understand the way groups operate, but the vocabulary is
> not, IMHO descriptive. If you look at the buttons - Group, Edit
> Group, and Select Grouped, that isn't exactly what is me
At 7:18 PM +1200 3/29/05, Richard Gaskin wrote:
[the properties property
In the absence of "the properties" actually returning the properties,
where might one find such a list so I can add those to 4W Props?
There is unfortunately nothing in the language that I know of; you'll
pretty much have to
Jeanne A. E. DeVoto wrote:
At 7:34 PM +1200 3/28/05, Richard Gaskin wrote:
As I'd written, it returns all properties which are returned in "the
properties", as in:
get the properties of button 1
This includes read-only properties like ID.
If you find any properties not returned by that functio
On 3/28/05 11:05 AM, Mikey wrote:
Are you automating creating tabs? If so, can't you name the tab when you
create the card and *then* put the list of cardnames into the tab button?
The tabs are updated with the names of the cards as the cards are
created. Thus when a new card is created, there is
on Mon, 28 Mar 2005
Mikey wrote:
> The problem is that there are issues
> that rear their ugly heads (in this case, docs),
> that, if they don't get resolved,
> become a significant hindrance to sales growth of
> the tool, and it fades into obscurity, further
> development slows or ceases, and
> Click the Objects button at the top of the documentation window, then
> open Objects in the list and click the object type you want to
> consider. Under each object type is a listing of Properties and
> Messages for that object.
This is actually very useful. I was just hoping for a more specifi
At 7:34 PM +1200 3/28/05, Richard Gaskin wrote:
As I'd written, it returns all properties which are returned in "the
properties", as in:
get the properties of button 1
This includes read-only properties like ID.
If you find any properties not returned by that function submit a
Bugzilla report
On 3/28/05 1:34 AM, "Richard Gaskin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Mikey wrote:
>> I believe devolution only lists properties that are editable, right?
>> What about read-only properties?
>
> As I'd written, it returns all properties which are returned in "the
> properties", as in:
>
> get th
At 2:48 PM -0500 3/27/05, Mikey wrote:
is there a reasonably comprehensive list somewhere of what properties
and messages are associated with particular objects? How about which
properties are read-only vs. writable? I realize that some of this is
available via Transcript, but I'd like to actuall
Omnis?? Geesh that thing was a monster. Thousands of pages of boring
and hard to read documentation, and thousands of little files. My
experience with it was that it was a nightmare, hard to learn, hard
to get off the ground. I couldn't make any sense of it - it just
didn't speak to me...I HATE
As far as getting over the hump into using the tool, I went through
much of this with a couple of other tools I used to use, Omnis being
one of them. The problem is that there are issues that rear their
ugly heads (in this case, docs), that, if they don't get resolved,
become a significant hindran
> And you don't have to buy the enterprise version unless you really
> need to develop on each platform. The studio edition is quite useful,
> and doesn't cost a grand.
I've now looked at this a couple of times and I don't remember why,
but for some reason the top-end version is what I determined I
Uh oh, Noobs's at the 'frustration phase' with a taste of righteous
indignation just preceding the 'aha' phase.
Don't give up. It's not that hard, really. Remember what Dan said
when he talked bout the DEPTH of this platform -- 10x the features of
hypercard.
There are a lot of properties to de
On 3/28/05 10:58 AM, "Mikey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Here's another question on groups/backgrounds in RR: Can you have
> multiple-inheritance on a card, i.e. can one card have two different
> groups acting as backgrounds on it? This becomes an issue when two
> groups-as-backgrounds cards ar
MIkey
Yep.
Dan
On Mar 28, 2005, at 8:58 AM, Mikey wrote:
Can you have
multiple-inheritance on a card, i.e. can one card have two different
groups acting as backgrounds on it?
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> Are you automating creating tabs? If so, can't you name the tab when you
> create the card and *then* put the list of cardnames into the tab button?
The tabs are updated with the names of the cards as the cards are
created. Thus when a new card is created, there is a tab that says
"card id _
Ken,
I think you have identified several of the issues that I have with
those three buttons. The bolding doesn't mean anything to me.
Changing the name or the icon of the button is a lot more meaningful
to me.
Here's another question on groups/backgrounds in RR: Can you have
multiple-inheritanc
On 3/28/05 10:29 AM, "Mikey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Unfortunately this doesn't work when a new card is added to the mix
> and the tab is given the short names of all cards in the stack, since
> you can't go to a card with a name like "card id 387274", and even
> executing there is a card "ca
Unfortunately this doesn't work when a new card is added to the mix
and the tab is given the short names of all cards in the stack, since
you can't go to a card with a name like "card id 387274", and even
executing there is a card "card id 387274" returns false. Tao it,
dude.
Is there a RR comman
On 3/28/05 9:15 AM, "Mikey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> If you are coming from HyperCard or SuperCard, I agree, backgrounds can be
>> frustrating, but only if you think of them as "backgrounds". If you rather
>> think of them as shared groups (much like sharedText is for fields), then it
>> is c
> > Completely by accident I discover the tabStop property for fields, and
> > shread a bunch of code from the field, cursing the whole time that the
> > tabStop property isn't listed on the Properties palette for fields,
> > (at least as far as I could see).
>
> Well, it *is*, but it's under the
On 3/28/05 7:33 AM, "Mikey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Completely by accident I discover the tabStop property for fields, and
> shread a bunch of code from the field, cursing the whole time that the
> tabStop property isn't listed on the Properties palette for fields,
> (at least as far as I cou
Pat, Dan, Richard, et. al,
The thing that got me on this topic was a little project that I'm
trying to build in RR which involves, at this point just two objects:
A field, and a tab panel/button/whatever.
Completely by accident I discover the tabStop property for fields, and
shread a bunch of cod
OK, Xavier, I'm looking through your list. Under buttons, I don't see
any of the menu events that it appears from RevZilla that Tab Buttons
or Tab Panels or whatever one would call them receive. Did I read too
fast?
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> Mikey wrote:
> > I believe devolution only lists properties that are
> editable, right?
> > Wh
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Mikey wrote:
I believe devolution only lists properties that are editable, right?
What about read-only properties?
As I'd written, it returns all properties which are returned in "the
properties", as in:
get the properties of button 1
This includes read-only properties like ID.
If you find an
t you want.
Doesn't the help/documentation/object/object/object you
want/properties (or messages), give what you you're asking for?
Pat
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I believe devolution only lists properties that are editable, right?
What about read-only properties?
Anyboty have any suggestions on how to figure out what messa
I believe devolution only lists properties that are editable, right?
What about read-only properties?
Anyboty have any suggestions on how to figure out what messages a
particular class of object receives? There are several types of
buttons, but some receive different messages from others.
--
O
Mikey wrote:
is there a reasonably comprehensive list somewhere of what properties
and messages are associated with particular objects? How about which
properties are read-only vs. writable? I realize that some of this is
available via Transcript, but I'd like to actually have a
reference/cheat s
is there a reasonably comprehensive list somewhere of what properties
and messages are associated with particular objects? How about which
properties are read-only vs. writable? I realize that some of this is
available via Transcript, but I'd like to actually have a
reference/cheat sheet to refer
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