Way before Hypercard and the Mac, there was Engelbart and Kay:
http://www.archive.org/details/AlanKeyD1987
http://www.archive.org/details/AlanKeyD1987_2
this stuff will blow your mind - these guys designed almost
everything GUI... a long time ago...
the mpeg4 files can go right into your iPod
Obviously, you guys don't ever sleep! (smile) Loved the history lesson.
Joe Wilkins
On Dec 27, 2007, at 9:02 PM, Stephen Barncard wrote:
Way before Hypercard and the Mac, there was Engelbart and Kay:
http://www.archive.org/details/AlanKeyD1987
http://www.archive.org/details/AlanKeyD1987_2
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Subject: Re: Engelbart and Kay --was: Back to the Future with Hypercard
Obviously, you guys don't ever sleep! (smile) Loved the history lesson.
Joe Wilkins
On Dec 27, 2007, at 9:02 PM, Stephen Barncard wrote:
> Way before Hypercard and the Mac, the
I recall when HyperCard was new and it was an exciting time for certain. The
video certainly brings back fond memories.
Randall Lee Reetz wrote...
> I keep thinking we are way over due building for today what
> hypercard was twenty years ago. I dont thing color and
> multi-platform quite measure
Amen Bill! There's a basic "family" similarity between HC and Rev, but
IMHO Rev leaves HC in the dust on every level.
Phil Davis
Bill Marriott wrote:
I recall when HyperCard was new and it was an exciting time for certain. The
video certainly brings back fond memories.
Randall Lee Reetz wrot
On Dec 28, 2007 2:43 AM, Bill Marriott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Does Revolution have the same, "your six-year-old can write a stack" elan
> the HyperCard did? Probably not, but I think that is due to a variety of
> factors:
>
> - The included stacks in HyperCard like clip art and stack ideas. T
Hi Judy,
You know, my "not much demand for it" comment might indeed have been a
little cavalier. But there is a context missing. Part of my thinking is not
just the clip art stacks but also the address, date book, charting and other
stacks where it seems we just won't have people switching from
On Dec 29, 2007 3:24 AM, Bill Marriott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Part of my thinking is not
> just the clip art stacks but also the address, date book, charting and
> other
> stacks where it seems we just won't have people switching from
> Office/Outlook.
>
But I don't think the intention is t
> From: Bill Marriott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: How to use Revolution
> Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 14:24:54 -0500
> To:
> Subject: Re: Engelbart and Kay --was: Back to the Future with Hypercard
>
> Hi Judy,
>
> You know, my "not much demand for it"
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> From: Bill Marriott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 14:24:54 -0500
> To:
>
Randall Lee Reetz wrote:
> This topic would not be dissimilar to romantic discussions about
> Model A Fords, except that we are in this case all still driving
> Model A Fords and there isnt much of an alternitive out there.
> Kind o weird dont you think?
I think this metaphor is lost on me: I st
If all you want to do is sell Rev to that small niche (perhaps even
smaller than the potential niche of the ed market!) of savvy
programmers who aren't afraid to use something other than the
commonly-accepted programming languages of C/++/#, Java etc., then
fine; but if you want to open up Rev's i
On 12/31/07 1:14 PM, "j downs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If all you want to do is sell Rev to that small niche (perhaps even
> smaller than the potential niche of the ed market!) of savvy
> programmers who aren't afraid to use something other than the
> commonly-accepted programming languages o
You can buy a lot of library books for the price of a computer lab.
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You can buy a lot of library books for the price of a computer lab.
My rural, moderately low SES (approx. 30% Free and Reduced Lunch)
elementary school has a full-loaded computer lab and *ten* technology-
focused regular third and fourth grade classrooms (each equipped with
16 desktop compu
Hi Bill,
First, I'd like to wish everybody on this list a Happy New Year.
Bill, I know we both agree that HyperCard is great software and that
Revolution is capable of much more than HyperCard. If I take your
list literally, however, I believe that most features on your list
were available
Mark,
Thanks for taking the time to point out all of these comparisons. I
agree with most all; particularly your message box commentary. BTW,
what is "Sheep Shaver"?
Joe Wilkins
On Jan 1, 2008, at 6:16 PM, Mark Schonewille wrote:
Hi Bill,
First, I'd like to wish everybody on this list a
Hi Mark,
> However, I strongly feel that your list of missing features doesn't do
> justice to the genius of the teams who developed HyperCard.
It's not a list of "missing" features or a slam against HyperCard in any
way. Simply a response to the idea that color and cross-platform were the
o
Joe,
It's an OSS PPC Emulator that you can run HC in. From
http://sheepshaver.cebix.net/ :
What is SheepShaver?
SheepShaver is a MacOS run-time environment for BeOS and Linux that
allows you to run classic MacOS applications inside the BeOS/Linux
multitasking environment. This means that both B
Hi Bill,
On Dec 28, 2007 11:24 AM, Bill Marriott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> You know, my "not much demand for it" comment might indeed have been a
> little cavalier. But there is a context missing. Part of my thinking is not
> just the clip art stacks but also the address, date book, charting
Mark Schonewille wrote:
- Greatly enhanced speed of execution
On my Mac Intel, running in SheepShaver, HyperCard is much faster
than Revolution, except if used a number cruncher.
It's been many years since I've benchmarked relative performance, but
last time I ran HyperBench and RevBench
On Wed, 2 Jan 2008 03:16:53 +0100, Mark Schonewille wrote:
> First, I'd like to wish everybody on this list a Happy New Year.
Same to you, Mark!
> Bill, I know we both agree that HyperCard is great software and that
> Revolution is capable of much more than HyperCard. If I take your
> list li
Hi Ken,
Of course, you need features that I don't need and the reverse. In
fact, I am now using features in Revolution that I never missed in
HyperCard and I probably can't do without them anymore.
HyperCard is very different from Revolution, for a few reasons. One
of the main reasons is
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