Kevin Miller wrote:
On 8/3/05 9:33 am, "Karen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I very much agree with your description of the Revolution learning process
Richard. I just feel that currently a lot of people could potentially be
put off by the dearth of basic help material and the overwhelming amount of
I agree with Karen, I love this program better then VB, RealBasic and
all the other ones out there. Just beacuse of some of the cool things
you can do with it. Though this list is an awsome help to me learning
about Revolution. It would be nice to have Basic tutorials on the
programming language it
On 8/3/05 9:33 am, "Karen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I very much agree with your description of the Revolution learning process
> Richard. I just feel that currently a lot of people could potentially be
> put off by the dearth of basic help material and the overwhelming amount of
> more expert
Hi Mikey,
Although your email doesn't actually include any questions or ask for
advice, I thought I would jump in anyway as I have had a similar
experience converting a large HyperCard stack to Revolution :-)
In HyperCard, searching through multiple cards was extremely fast.
Something like:
m
The thing about searching algorithms is that they are, by their
nature, inexact in their appropriateness and optimality. In fact, BMS
is considered to be, in a probabilistic sense the best solution in the
general case for free-form English. That being said, it may very well
not be the best opti
On Tue, 08 Mar 2005, "J. Landman Gay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Does anyone know which search algorithm is being used in
>> RR? Searching seems sort of slow, leading me to believe that it isn't
>> Boyer-Moore-Sunday.
Well, there is searching and there is searching. The built-in "find"
comman
From: Sarah Reichelt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Hi Karen,
>
>> The biggest problem that I find is knowing
It's not that I'm not interested in using an SQL back-end. I have
several here to choose from, and that would be the route I would go
since the back-ends all serve other business-critical data. The issue
is that RR isn't compelling _compared_to_other_odbc_clients_, and
certainly that solution isn
Not compelling? Hey I know what you mean - years ago (1990?) I
attempted to hook up hypercard with ODBC and a Butler server...all on
macs. It was slow and horrible and was utterly unreliable. Certainly
I would expect problems if you use ODBC; That was then.
But NOW I've found that rev SCREAMS a
I should ammend my previous post to say that in this case there isn't
anything compelling about using RR as an SQL front-end. The fact that
it can be used as an SQL front-end is interesting, as it was when HC
could be used as a Sybase front-end (although it was damn-slow). RR
as an ODBC client is
The (mission critical) app. that I'm going to be moving from HC to
another environment has thousands or cards in it. Actually, it has
tens of thousands of cards in it, but I've separated them into
multiple stacks because there are logical reasons (time based) to do
so.
So, one of the first things
Mikey wrote:
As long as I'm on the topic of overwriting the functionality of a
particular keyword, I posted a question last week that has yet to be
answered. Does anyone know which search algorithm is being used in
RR? Searching seems sort of slow, leading me to believe that it isn't
Boyer-Moore-
On 3/8/05 2:19 PM, Mikey wrote:
As long as I'm on the topic of overwriting the functionality of a
particular keyword, I posted a question last week that has yet to be
answered. Does anyone know which search algorithm is being used in
RR? Searching seems sort of slow, leading me to believe that it
Hi Karen,
The biggest problem that I find is knowing what to look for in the
online
references. For example, I tend to think of the commands in
"REALbasic"
terms, so to split a string I would be thinking of "Left", "Right",
"Mid"
and "InStr" commands.
If you use those commands a lot, you're goi
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How hard would it be for someone, if provided with source files
formatted like, for example: on each line, have a linking text similar
to:
left,character keyword
right,character keyword
mid,character keyword
slices,character keyword
to produce a patc
Right.. that's the rosetta stone/geek-speak-cheat-sheet I've been asking
for... (I'd do it myself if I actually knew anything...).
Judy
On Tue, 8 Mar 2005, Richard Gaskin wrote:
> > Didn't somebody (Andrew?) recently post an algorithm stack
> > that would make indexing easier??
>
> I'm sure it
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As I find the time for it, I might try putting one together for Pascal,
and maybe even Java or Ada, but this may not happen for a while.
Again, this would be good stuff for a search feature in the Rev docs...
On Mar 8, 2005, at 2:50 PM, Dan Shafer wro
Judy Perry wrote:
> RG wrote:
>> Such indexing is difficult, as it requires a significant
>> time committment from the subset of available resources
>> who understand multiple tools/language intimately enough
>> to anticipate such conceptual overlap.
>
> Didn't somebody (Andrew?) recently post an a
Using a Wiki for documentation is a great idea. Someone from this list
started one a while back for Rev but I don't seem to be able to find
any info on it.
I would be happy to host and manage such a service if we could get the
docs into a form that would lend itself to a page-per-language-eleme
Didn't somebody (Andrew?) recently post an algorithm stack that would make
indexing easier??
Judy
On Tue, 8 Mar 2005, Richard Gaskin wrote:
> Such indexing is difficult, as it requires a significant time
> committment from the subset of available resources who understand
> multiple tools/languag
This is similar to an issue I have with the tool that I use
extensively right now, and the problem is common. That tool is the
one I had to learn as HC faded into obscurity. In that environment
(4D) we call it the Tao of 4D. That was a term coined by one of the
founders of the company. The Tao
See, folks? This is where a real index would help. You have a
rosetta stone entry for the terms systems language programmers are
expecting, and, after, include a line "see ___".
It would beat the out finding nothing!
Judy
On Tue, 8 Mar 2005, Frank D. Engel, Jr. wrote:
> It may be nice
Wait !!! You can use those things
Huh.
On Mar 8, 2005, at 11:47 AM, David Squance wrote:
It took me ages to figure out how to
use the auto-complete shortcuts that appear at the bottom of the
script
editing window.
I've had Rev for 2 years (though I'm a sparse user compared to many),
and I w
It might be a useful idea for people who know other languages --
RealBASIC, VB, C++, C#, Java, (JavaScript?) -- to come up with a sort
of list of equivalents that would enable at least a sort of basic
cross-language cross-reference into the Transcript docs.
My guess is that the total number of
At 10:51 AM -0800 3/8/05, Richard Gaskin wrote:
So maybe an interim process to start work on such index expansion
might be an extension of the "user notes" facility, which would
allow ad hoc additions to the search endex. As related terms become
evident, anyone could log them into a pool which
Mark Wieder wrote:
Absolutely spot on. Example: in topics, searching for "static" (as in
"static text") brings up a handful of entries, at least one of which
talks about label fields. However, filtering on "static" brings up a
total of nothing. Nada. Zilch.
This must be "static text" week, as the s
>> I have to admit sheepishly that I haven't figured that one out yet. I
>> see them pop up, but it's never distracted me from typing enough to
>> get sidetracked into working on it. Any clues for me?
KM> When you see the handler name that you are currently typing, press CMD
KM> + (the number of
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Oops! And as often as I've had that very error, you'd think by now...
On Mar 8, 2005, at 12:23 PM, Ken Ray wrote:
One little correction to the above... you need to use "char" instead of
"chars" otherwise you'll get a syntax error.
Ken Ray
Sons of Thund
Hi Mark and all,
...
K> the documentation is fairly scanty. It took me ages to figure out
how to
K> use the auto-complete shortcuts that appear at the bottom of the
script
K> editing window.
I have to admit sheepishly that I haven't figured that one out yet. I
see them pop up, but it's never di
Karen-
Your comments are right on target.
Tuesday, March 8, 2005, 1:33:11 AM, you wrote:
K> I've started out trying to convert a few programs from REALbasic to
K> Revolution, and then started on a project that has gradually expanded to
K> stretch my knowledge.
While I have yet to find anything
> BTW, if you didn't find it before:
>
> Left(str, numChars) = chars 1 to numChars of str
> Mid(str, firstChar, numChars) = chars firstChar to
> (firstChar+numChars-1) of str
> Right(str, numChars) = chars -numChars to -1 of str
>
> InStr -> see the "offset" function
One little correction to th
Karen,
A well thought-out post. I hope you can stick with it. You'll be an
asset to the list group.
On Mar 8, 2005, at 2:33 AM, Karen wrote:
It took me ages to figure out how to
use the auto-complete shortcuts that appear at the bottom of the script
editing window.
I've had Rev for 2 years (th
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This is one place where it may do very well for Rev's docs to take a
cue from the upcoming version of OS X. Apple added a search feature to
- - of all things - System Preferences!
When searching, you can enter either the Macintosh name for something
helped by the bug in the Mac OS X version
of Revolution that makes using altBrowser tricky) - unfortunately the
references to these topics often point to a "solution", but assume a good
level of knowledge of Revolution's more advanced features. For someone
learning Revolution that can be a bit frus
Great story!
Tommy Simmons
Employment Law Advisory Network
www.employmentlawadvisors.com
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From: "Dar Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2002 12:39 PM
Subject: [OT humor] Learning Revolution Skills
>
My children have caught the Revolution bug. I have told them that
if they work on their Revolution skills I'll contract some stack
design to them.
Even so, I was caught off-guard.
My wife and the kids were making a lot of noise in the kitchen. I
asked what was going on. My wife turned to m
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