Re: End of U3?

2007-05-17 Thread Bob Warren
My memory is failing me, and I haven't been following this thread very closely (I tend to get a bit lost in all this U3 stuff, since I don't use Windows anymore). Has anyone actually mentioned that Rev/Linux 2.6.1 runs directly from a common pendrive with no problem at all? No setup. No

Re: End of U3?

2007-05-16 Thread John Tregea
I remember downloading a version of Revolution that ran from a U3 drive. I was looking for a transportable, secure (protected) way to deliver a user interface and proprietary database. It did work (at least for the term of the trial). Cheers JohnT Judy Perry wrote: Sounds like a job for

Re: End of U3?

2007-05-15 Thread Judy Perry
Yeah, I need apps that are designed to run around the end line, er, whatever it's called. I guess I've got all summer to try to figure it out :-D As you say, I think I worry about the following: Traditionally, apps designed for installation on the hard drive may expect to write a preferences

Re: End of U3?

2007-05-15 Thread Richard Gaskin
Judy Perry wrote: But an app can be designed not to need that stuff, to keep everything on the drive it's running on. Since Rev standalones are self-contained, as long as they don't go out of their way to modify the system (prefs files, registry, etc.) they'll run from any removable media.

Re: End of U3?

2007-05-15 Thread Andre Garzia
portableapps.com always felt like a hack for me. It uses NDIS (or some other acronym) wrapper to hack around the folders tricking the enclosed executable to think it is writting to one place when it is actually writting to someplace else like the removable media folder. This solves

Re: End of U3?

2007-05-15 Thread Stephen Barncard
And there is a BIG difference between USB 1 and 2.. USB 2 can approach Firewire400 speeds... Let us go to the important problems (IMHO): * Removable media is slow. If your app does a lot of file juggling or is very disk based, you'll see performance penalty, specially if you're using cheap

Re: End of U3?

2007-05-15 Thread J. Landman Gay
Richard Gaskin wrote: Judy Perry wrote: But an app can be designed not to need that stuff, to keep everything on the drive it's running on. Since Rev standalones are self-contained, as long as they don't go out of their way to modify the system (prefs files, registry, etc.) they'll run from

Re: End of U3?

2007-05-15 Thread Richard Gaskin
J. Landman Gay wrote: Richard Gaskin wrote: Judy Perry wrote: ...does Rev? That's a good question. I would imagine RunRev has a U3 version, and if they've done that much work it's far easier to make one that'll run on any flash drive. I couldn't find either on the Download page, though

Re: End of U3?

2007-05-15 Thread Chipp Walters
From a private email I sent to Lynn, While I know that question wasn't directed at me, I thought I'd chime in with an answer. I actually found the U3 spec, device and organization difficult to work with. I started a dialog with them which never finished, even after repeated requests to them.

Re: End of U3?

2007-05-15 Thread Richard Gaskin
Andre Garzia wrote: And if you're designing your app to be portable from the start, you don't need U3. You can build your own launcher. You can join the U4 yahoo group and help the efforts. For those interested in contributing to the development of a universal flash drive launcher, the U4

Re: End of U3?

2007-05-15 Thread J. Landman Gay
Richard Gaskin wrote: J. Landman Gay wrote: Richard Gaskin wrote: Judy Perry wrote: ...does Rev? That's a good question. I would imagine RunRev has a U3 version, and if they've done that much work it's far easier to make one that'll run on any flash drive. I couldn't find either

Re: End of U3?

2007-05-15 Thread Chipp Walters
It would be great is someone ended up with a recipe on how to install Rev as a portableapp. I'd love to have a Mac and PC copy on a Thumbdrive too! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe,

Re: End of U3?

2007-05-15 Thread Judy Perry
Thanks, Richard. I'll have a look for next term. Judy On Tue, 15 May 2007, Richard Gaskin wrote: For apps that are known to be portable, the directory at PortableApps.com is a good starting point: http://portableapps.com/apps ___ use-revolution

Re: End of U3?

2007-05-15 Thread Judy Perry
Andre, Of course, what I'm specifically looking to do (or, rather have my students do) IS a hack -- of IT's iron-fisted grip on what software that can be used in the classroom. I did think about the speed issue... but our network's so crappy that slow isn't going to strike the students as

Re: End of U3?

2007-05-15 Thread Judy Perry
Exactly. In the section on reliability I wanted them to experience programming writ small by having them make their own little stack that did something amusing. But no way, no how is IT going to let us d/l the demo, and my department's license is only for OS9 :-( And, even if the students

Re: End of U3?

2007-05-15 Thread Judy Perry
Sounds like a job for office hours ;-) But, of course, it's the end of the semester now, so I don't have any of those. Judy On Tue, 15 May 2007, J. Landman Gay wrote: Does it run from a flash drive, or does it require installation on a hard drive? Now *I'm* confused. :): I haven't

Re: End of U3?

2007-05-14 Thread Chipp Walters
On 5/13/07, Lynn Fredricks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is your experience with portableapps? While I know that question wasn't directed at me, I thought I'd chime in with an answer. I actually found the U3 spec, device and organization difficult to work with. I started a dialog with them

Re: End of U3?

2007-05-14 Thread Mark Wieder
Judy- Sunday, May 13, 2007, 10:19:08 PM, you wrote: Hence, I'd like for them to be able to d/l the FileMaker demo and put together a simple database or two. I'm not aware of a u3 build of Filemaker. Maybe I've missed an announcement. But if not, then u3 ain't gonna help you and will just take

Re: End of U3?

2007-05-14 Thread Richard Gaskin
Judy Perry wrote: So, U3 drives so that I can have students d/o demo's/shareware software not officially honkey-dorey by our IT folks (which is basically everything that is NOT MS Office...). Am I mistaken? Isn't that THE BIG THING about the U3 drives? That you can run apps off them? For as

Re: End of U3?

2007-05-14 Thread Judy Perry
Richard, Even though I am largely a Mac user, my students and my labs are largely PC and hence I need ways to get around being locked out of allowing downloads and installations of demos etc. U3 *should* let me do that, right? Judy On Mon, 14 May 2007, Richard Gaskin wrote: Judy Perry wrote:

Re: End of U3?

2007-05-14 Thread Richard Gaskin
Judy Perry write: Even though I am largely a Mac user, my students and my labs are largely PC and hence I need ways to get around being locked out of allowing downloads and installations of demos etc. U3 *should* let me do that, right? ANY removable drive will let you do that. Whether an

Re: End of U3?

2007-05-13 Thread Richard Gaskin
Judy Perry wrote: I hope you are right... I was just counting on U3 drives for teaching next fall... Just curious: Why specifically U3 drives rather than the superset of all available thumb drives? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation

RE: End of U3?

2007-05-13 Thread Lynn Fredricks
I actually have three different u3 devices, none of which work with Vista. I don't consider that much of a loss, but if I were planning to deploy an app to a u3 platform that would probably kill my market. A better alternative, as some of the slashdotters have also noted, is

Re: End of U3?

2007-05-13 Thread Judy Perry
Hi Richard, Because I'm at a satellite campus instead of the main campus, especially that part of the main campus which is composed of computer labs operated by my department. So, U3 drives so that I can have students d/o demo's/shareware software not officially honkey-dorey by our IT folks

Re: End of U3?

2007-05-12 Thread Richard Gaskin
Alex Shaw wrote: sounds like it.. http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/05/11/2021244from=rss Thanks for posting that, Alex. Interesting read. I liked this comment from one of the slashdotters: Trusted computing isn't about providing an environment you, the user can trust.

RE: End of U3?

2007-05-12 Thread Lynn Fredricks
sounds like it.. http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/05/11/2021244from=rss No, not exactly - only a transformation in our support for an even larger entity. Read the original article in Infoweek here http://www.informationweek.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=199501108. Not

RE: End of U3?

2007-05-12 Thread Judy Perry
I hope you are right... I was just counting on U3 drives for teaching next fall... Judy On Sat, 12 May 2007, Lynn Fredricks wrote: sounds like it.. http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/05/11/2021244from=rss No, not exactly - only a transformation in our support for an even