Re: What about the quit menuitem in standalone with 2.5?

2004-09-05 Thread Sarah Reichelt
That said, I'll request directly the consideration of providing a professional developer's list for those with current licenses for studio or above. I agree and would like to see the access to the improve list extended. I am a current Enterprise license holder (or whatever it is called now)

Re: What about the quit menuitem in standalone with 2.5?

2004-09-05 Thread Troy Rollins
On Sep 5, 2004, at 7:03 PM, Sarah Reichelt wrote: It was freely given and I would hate to see the Rev community reach a stage where the professionals had learnt what they needed but were now reluctant to pass this on to any beginners or hobbyists. I'm certainly no advocate of that either. I have

Re: What about the quit menuitem in standalone with 2.5?

2004-09-04 Thread Wolfgang M . Bereuter
On 04.09.2004, at 01:49, Troy Rollins wrote: I was a hobbyist too (am still, but that's not the point). Now I consider myself a pro. Not because I am a better programmer, or because I learned so much, but because I can help more often then that I need help. Right Björnke: Evolution is based on

Re: What about the quit menuitem in standalone with 2.5?

2004-09-04 Thread Troy Rollins
On Sep 4, 2004, at 9:16 AM, Wolfgang M.Bereuter wrote: Many professional programmers will be put off from Revolution if the only support list is full of DreamCard hobbyists and complete newbies doing a seventh grade homework assignment. Let´s talk about, when the millions of DC Users are here

Re: What about the quit menuitem in standalone with 2.5?

2004-09-04 Thread Bill
I agree with that. In fact I think you have coined a new motto. Perhaps we should try selling bumper stickers It is always best to wait for things to get out of hand. I've always thought that the boy scout Be prepared thing was impractical and kind of girly. -

Re: What about the quit menuitem in standalone with 2.5?

2004-09-03 Thread Klaus Major
Bonjour François, Hello everybody! I have a very important problem with the 2.5 release. I have a handler On shutdownRequest. If I use the Quit menu in My standalone application, it crash's! And Klaus Major writes me the 7.4.2004: There is an extremely cheap and effective trick on OS X ;-)

Re : What about the quit menuitem in standalone with 2.5?

2004-09-03 Thread François Cuneo
Hello Klaus! Without the empty folder, it crash's exactly as with! You are not the matter!:-) In fact, if I use a button with this simple script: on mouseup quit end mouseup All is perfect. But if I use the Quit menu, it crash's! :-( The shutdownrequest is like that: on shutdownRequest --

Re: What about the quit menuitem in standalone with 2.5?

2004-09-03 Thread Kevin Miller
On 3/9/04 3:54 pm, François Cuneo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a very important problem with the 2.5 release. I have a handler On shutdownRequest. If I use the Quit menu in My standalone application, it crash's! François, There is a simple rule when developing in DC/Rev. If it

Re: What about the quit menuitem in standalone with 2.5?

2004-09-03 Thread Troy Rollins
On Sep 3, 2004, at 11:23 AM, Kevin Miller wrote: There is a simple rule when developing in DC/Rev. If it crashes its almost certainly a bug. We provide a bug reporting facility and act quickly to resolve issues. By filing it in the database we can fix it. Posting to this mailing list

Re: What about the quit menuitem in standalone with 2.5?

2004-09-03 Thread Mark Talluto
On Sep 3, 2004, at 8:49 AM, Troy Rollins wrote: Kevin, With all due respect, this is an EXTREMELY frustrating position you are taking. Discussion of bugs is not only common on developer lists, it is expected. While no one expects the development team to pick up on bugs from discussions here,

Re: What about the quit menuitem in standalone with 2.5?

2004-09-03 Thread Frank D. Engel, Jr.
Besides which, bugs in the software ARE related to its usage: they often prevent its usage, in fact. I quite agree with the fact that lack of discussion of some of these bugs can prohibit effective use of the software. If you want the list to be focused more specifically on how to use the

Re: What about the quit menuitem in standalone with 2.5?

2004-09-03 Thread Klaus Major
Hi Troy, On Sep 3, 2004, at 11:23 AM, Kevin Miller wrote: There is a simple rule when developing in DC/Rev. If it crashes its almost certainly a bug. We provide a bug reporting facility and act quickly to resolve issues. By filing it in the database we can fix it. Posting to this mailing

Re: What about the quit menuitem in standalone with 2.5?

2004-09-03 Thread Troy Rollins
On Sep 3, 2004, at 12:40 PM, Kevin Miller wrote: And sometimes it turns out to be not a bug... This might take a little burden from off of your shoulders, at least sometimes ;-) That's certainly a fair point. I'm not suggesting that those discussions be limited. Its just that when the program

Re: What about the quit menuitem in standalone with 2.5?

2004-09-03 Thread Klaus Major
Hi Kevin, On 3/9/04 6:19 pm, Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This list is meant to discuss/try out several workarounds/recipes, if possible, BEFORE we decide to file this as a bug... And sometimes it turns out to be not a bug... This might take a little burden from off of your shoulders, at

Re : What about the quit menuitem in standalone with 2.5?

2004-09-03 Thread François Cuneo
Sorry but when the a standalone crash's, for me, it's me, not a bug. I'm not so good developer to be able to know if it's me or if it's Revolution. So now I'll go to the database to filing it, BUT WHERE IS THE DATABASE PLEASE:-) PS: hem: you think really that's a bug??:-) Amicalement François

Re: What about the quit menuitem in standalone with 2.5?

2004-09-03 Thread Frank D. Engel, Jr.
But how do you report bugs in that system then? Post to the list 10 times? :) Well, this has still to be worked out ;-) Haven't you ever subscribed to an eMail newsletter by sending a message with SUBSCRIBE in the header? Why not BUG REPORT or *BUG!!!*?

Re: What about the quit menuitem in standalone with 2.5?

2004-09-03 Thread Bill
I am a very busy (but happy runrev user) and I do notice that there is tons of traffic on this list but find nearly all of it important and/or interesting including info that may lead to a bug report. So I vote that it be ok for people to discuss bugs on the list at least enough so we can say yes

Re: What about the quit menuitem in standalone with 2.5?

2004-09-03 Thread Kevin Miller
On 3/9/04 5:49 pm, Troy Rollins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With all due respect, this is an EXTREMELY frustrating position you are taking. Discussion of bugs is not only common on developer lists, it is expected. While no one expects the development team to pick up on bugs from discussions

Re: What about the quit menuitem in standalone with 2.5?

2004-09-03 Thread Troy Rollins
On Sep 3, 2004, at 2:48 PM, Kevin Miller wrote: The RunRev stance of trying to keep such discussions out of this list will also keep professional developers out of this list, since we are quite accustomed to open discussion of any usage issues regarding the tools we work with. Note that our

Re: What about the quit menuitem in standalone with 2.5?

2004-09-03 Thread Kevin Miller
On 3/9/04 9:11 pm, Troy Rollins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That said, I'll request directly the consideration of providing a professional developer's list for those with current licenses for studio or above. While DC is an awesome thing for RunRev, it has the potential of being less awesome for

Re: What about the quit menuitem in standalone with 2.5?

2004-09-03 Thread Björnke von Gierke
On Sep 03 2004, at 21:11, Troy Rollins wrote: ...One list really does not suit all needs. Frankly, I'm not too inclined to hang out on a list with the dreamcarder who wants to make a Pokemon database as his 6th grade science project Elitarist! Oh wait no name calling... Actually I think

Re: What about the quit menuitem in standalone with 2.5?

2004-09-03 Thread Troy Rollins
On Sep 3, 2004, at 5:53 PM, Björnke von Gierke wrote: Elitarist! Fair enough. I am the bad guy. -- Troy RPSystems, Ltd. http://www.rpsystems.net ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution