Hi friends,
today we installed OS X 10.5 on one of our machines and did some tests
with our new project, which uses a lot of metal windows.
Result:
The app is completely unusable!
All windows/stacks go empty when suspending and most of the time stay
blank/empty when resuming or even open blank.
Klaus,
I don't have leopard in here but as far as I know, metal has been
removed from leopard, they have a unified UI now, both aqua windows
and metal windows appear as this new unified ui.
Maybe since Rev used some emulated controls on top of metal, this is
broken. Can you try to use acqua?
Hi Andre,
Klaus,
I don't have leopard in here but as far as I know, metal has been
removed from leopard, they have a unified UI now, both aqua windows
and metal windows appear as this new unified ui.
Maybe since Rev used some emulated controls on top of metal, this is
broken. Can you try to
On 30/10/07 12:00, Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
today we installed OS X 10.5 on one of our machines and did some tests
with our new project, which uses a lot of metal windows.
Result:
The app is completely unusable!
All windows/stacks go empty when suspending and most of the time
Well, Rev is not yet spec'd for Leopard.
You are not alone. There are so many apps that I use* that are not
ready, that I've put off installing Leopard indefinitely, even though
I just bought the 'family pack'.
My opinion: metal mode has been so unstable for so long that it
deserved to be
All bets are off when there is a major change in the OS version and
it's been days since the rollout.
Perhaps you are being a bit unfair to Rev expecting your 2.8.1 stacks
to work perfectly in the new environment.
It is not because metal does not work, it is because the stacks (metal or not)
This only matters if:
1. You intend to develop software for Mac OS 10.5
2. You have installed Mac OS 10.5 on your machine.
Two things occur to me about this:
1. The number of people who use Macintosh computers is
small.
2. Is it worth investing the money for:-
Mac OS 10.5
Waiting
Stephen Barncard wrote:
the new environment
Really?
Since when was a POINT upgrade a new environment ?
Microsoft made it extremely clear that Vista was a the
new environment;
Apple did nothing of the sort.
I am prepared to bet that Runtime Revolution will not
claim that RR 2.9 is a new RAD,
1. The number of people who use Macintosh computers is
small.
current mac market share is now estimated at 8%.
This is important if your customers use Macs.
That is to say: a lot more processor-hungry eye-candy
at the price of all sorts of applications needing
pricey upgrades, plus merry
Um, regardless of what you think about the designation, it's a
change, a new environment, otherwise why would metal not work?
I know of no such rules regarding 'point' versions.
Sorry I offended you with my semantics.
Stephen Barncard wrote:
the new environment
Really?
Since when was a
Hi Stephen,
All bets are off when there is a major change in the OS version and
it's been days since the rollout.
Perhaps you are being a bit unfair to Rev expecting your 2.8.1
stacks to work perfectly in the new environment.
I exspect them to WORK, not perfectly, but usable!
It is not
Besides, don't Rev get developer seeds to test on? I reckon this
should have been fixed for 2.8.1 gm3, not for 2.9.
Cheers,
Luis.
On 30 Oct 2007, at 15:21, Stephen Barncard wrote:
Um, regardless of what you think about the designation, it's a
change, a new environment, otherwise why
Hi Kevin,
On 30/10/07 12:00, Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
today we installed OS X 10.5 on one of our machines and did some
tests
with our new project, which uses a lot of metal windows.
Result:
The app is completely unusable!
All windows/stacks go empty when suspending and most of
On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 15:03:15 + (GMT), Richmond Mathewson wrote:
Stephen Barncard wrote:
the new environment
Really?
Since when was a POINT upgrade a new environment ?
Ever since 10.0 was released... or haven't you noticed? Of course it
depends on what you mean by new environment,
On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 14:56:44 + (GMT), Richmond Mathewson wrote:
This only matters if:
1. You intend to develop software for Mac OS 10.5
2. You have installed Mac OS 10.5 on your machine.
Don't be ridiculous, Richmond... most people are developing software
that doesn't use metal
Friends,
anyone tried 2.9 in Mac OS X 10.5?
With every release, Apple, fix their UI. What was once aqua with a
unified pinstripe-happy solid UI, changed into a collection of strange
elements during the latest releases. We got like 10 types of buttons,
metal, aqua, paladium windows. With no rule
On 30/10/07 15:41, Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Its not really surprising that Rev 2.8.1 doesn't run perfectly on
Leopard
given that it shipped many months before that OS.
...which came out surprisingly last friday?
Right, 4 days ago. There are dozens of applications that do not
Only in Revolution we can solve this issues using our own language itself! :-)
try that in a glitch with something like RB...
On 10/30/07, Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 30/10/07 15:41, Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Its not really surprising that Rev 2.8.1 doesn't run
Problems is new machines will now be shipped with Leopard and if you
are in the education market here in the states there a lot of macs
and the new machines are the ones that they want to run the
multimedia apps on that i do with rev.
Have others tried other rev 2.6-2.8 standalones in
Hi Kevin,
On 30/10/07 15:41, Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Its not really surprising that Rev 2.8.1 doesn't run perfectly on
Leopard
given that it shipped many months before that OS.
...which came out surprisingly last friday?
Right, 4 days ago. There are dozens of applications that
Kevin,
I would be more confident in Rev 2.9... if your response had been :
the needed patch is/will be available soon to our current customers
at www.runrev.com.
Regards,
--
Pierre Sahores
mobile : 06 03 95 77 70
www.sahores-conseil.com
Le 30 oct. 07 à 15:25, Kevin Miller a écrit :
On
Ken Ray wrote:
Don't be ridiculous, Richmond..
and why on earth not?
It sure stimulated the debate!
Of course it is worth developing for 10.5; and as time
goes on it will get easier - however it will involve
both a financial and a mental investment (Um, what new
thing doesn't ?) - and the
As a long-time Mac Fan I am beginning to wonder if Mac
have not done
A Vista with Leopard . . .
That is to say: a lot more processor-hungry eye-candy
at the price of all sorts of applications needing
pricey upgrades, plus merry blue-green screens.
Actually, Leopard has some great features.
Sarah Reichelt wrote:
Actually, Leopard has some great features. Spaces alone will make my
Rev work much easier. I also get the feeling that it is faster than
Tiger.
Ditto that... confirmed... much faster than tiger
though after trying Mail.app for 1/2 hour I immediately
went back to
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