Re: Rev 3.5 Dictionary--User contributed notes!

2009-04-17 Thread Kay C Lan
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 1:23 AM, Devin Asay devin_a...@byu.edu wrote: So far entries are few (or maybe they are more abundant than I think, but there is no obvious way to search for terms that have user comments added. See enhancement request

Re: Rev 3.5 Dictionary--User contributed notes!

2009-04-16 Thread Benjamin Beaumont
Good afternoon all. I wanted to take a little time to post in relation to discussions regarding Collaborative Docs, one of our new features in Revolution 3.5. Since the launch of 3.5 we have seen a lot of you taking the time to post some really useful examples, hints and comments which have

Re: Rev 3.5 Dictionary--User contributed notes!

2009-04-16 Thread Andre Garzia
I'd rather have an inverse approach where every comment is approved by default and we can flag the ones we think should be removed. And yes, the comments should have bugs in them with links to the QA center. I don't want to search the QA for every revolution command I want to use, I want the

Re: Rev 3.5 Dictionary--User contributed notes!

2009-04-16 Thread Devin Asay
Thanks, Ben! I've already seen a bunch of new confirmations come in this morning. This new guidance is greatly appreciated. Now to comb through my personal scripting notes to see if there are things others might benefit from! Regards, Devin On Apr 16, 2009, at 10:42 AM, Benjamin Beaumont

Re: Rev 3.5 Dictionary--User contributed notes!

2009-04-16 Thread Richard Gaskin
Andre wrote: I'd rather have an inverse approach where every comment is approved by default and we can flag the ones we think should be removed. I'm normally quick to agree with you, but on this one I think your good nature may have you underestimating the potential for problems. There was

Re: Rev 3.5 Dictionary--User contributed notes!

2009-04-16 Thread Andre Garzia
Richard, but you can't post to the documentation from without Rev. So to spam the documentation notes, you should be a revolution user. since the post carries RevOnline login with it, it would be trivial to quarantine abusive users. And less hours would be spent approving comments... :D On Thu,

Re: Rev 3.5 Dictionary--User contributed notes!

2009-04-16 Thread Mark Wieder
Richard- I'm with Andre on this. I appreciate your comments about the need for moderation, but the docs are at least as much a controlled environment as this list. And Andre's comment about the need to have bug links is also very much to the point. When I open the documentation I'd like to know

Re: Rev 3.5 Dictionary--User contributed notes!

2009-04-16 Thread Richard Gaskin
Andre wrote: Richard, but you can't post to the documentation from without Rev. So to spam the documentation notes, you should be a revolution user. since the post carries RevOnline login with it, it would be trivial to quarantine abusive users. And less hours would be spent approving

Re: Rev 3.5 Dictionary--User contributed notes!

2009-04-16 Thread Devin Asay
On Apr 15, 2009, at 8:44 PM, Jim Sims wrote: On Apr 16, 2009, at 1:51 AM, Devin Asay wrote: communication issue that needs to be fixed if RunRev want this feature to succeed. We ought to try to work out the bumps before we dismiss it for its flaws. It's a new service, and is bound to have

Re: Rev 3.5 Dictionary--User contributed notes!

2009-04-16 Thread Devin Asay
On Apr 16, 2009, at 11:42 AM, Mark Wieder wrote: Richard- I'm with Andre on this. I appreciate your comments about the need for moderation, but the docs are at least as much a controlled environment as this list. And Andre's comment about the need to have bug links is also very much to the

Re: Rev 3.5 Dictionary--User contributed notes!

2009-04-16 Thread Andre Garzia
Devin, if the links and a one line summary or title were on the dictionary then it would be enough. It's easier to click and navigate away, but I want some info there, just a link with a 140 chars description, if it works for twitter it works for us. On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 3:24 PM, Devin Asay

Re: Rev 3.5 Dictionary--User contributed notes!

2009-04-16 Thread Devin Asay
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 2:14 PM, Richard Gaskin ambassador at fourthworld.comwrote: Andre wrote: I'd rather have an inverse approach where every comment is approved by default and we can flag the ones we think should be removed. I'm normally quick to agree with you, but on this one I

Re: Rev 3.5 Dictionary--User contributed notes!

2009-04-16 Thread Devin Asay
On Apr 16, 2009, at 12:32 PM, Andre Garzia wrote: Devin, if the links and a one line summary or title were on the dictionary then it would be enough. It's easier to click and navigate away, but I want some info there, just a link with a 140 chars description, if it works for twitter it

Re: Rev 3.5 Dictionary--User contributed notes!

2009-04-16 Thread Richard Gaskin
Devin wrote: In the case of Dictionary comments, there could be a third way. What if Rev allowed volunteers in the developer community to get checked- out in evaluating the quality of submissions. Once qualified, these volunteer editors could simply review submissions as they popped up,

Re: Rev 3.5 Dictionary--User contributed notes!

2009-04-16 Thread Terry Judd
On 17/04/09 3:42 AM, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net wrote: Richard- I'm with Andre on this. I appreciate your comments about the need for moderation, but the docs are at least as much a controlled environment as this list. I agree, and I prefer Andre's model to the 'selected users as

Rev 3.5 Dictionary--User contributed notes!

2009-04-15 Thread Devin Asay
Hi folks, I just want to put in a good word, an unsolicited plug for what I think is the most underrated new feature in Rev 3.5--the ability to add User Notes to the Rev Dictionary. I've been playing trying this out since the beta version came out, and I really love the potential. So far

Re: Rev 3.5 Dictionary--User contributed notes!

2009-04-15 Thread Mark Wieder
Devin- Wednesday, April 15, 2009, 10:23:52 AM, you wrote: account. The notes are mediated for quality by RunRev so it takes a day or two for them to show up. They have also said they don't want ...and that's the downside. It's kind of like the Microsoft approach to the world: the theory is

Re: Rev 3.5 Dictionary--User contributed notes!

2009-04-15 Thread DunbarX
I also submitted several notes, and do not see them posted. Craig Newman In a message dated 4/15/09 7:10:00 PM, mwie...@ahsoftware.net writes: ...and that's the downside. It's kind of like the Microsoft approach to the world: the theory is great but the implementation sucks. My notes have

Re: Rev 3.5 Dictionary--User contributed notes!

2009-04-15 Thread Devin Asay
On Apr 15, 2009, at 5:07 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Devin- Wednesday, April 15, 2009, 10:23:52 AM, you wrote: account. The notes are mediated for quality by RunRev so it takes a day or two for them to show up. They have also said they don't want ...and that's the downside. It's kind of like

Re: Rev 3.5 Dictionary--User contributed notes!

2009-04-15 Thread Jim Sims
On Apr 16, 2009, at 1:51 AM, Devin Asay wrote: communication issue that needs to be fixed if RunRev want this feature to succeed. We ought to try to work out the bumps before we dismiss it for its flaws. It's a new service, and is bound to have some rough spots, but I'm sure we can work