Re: Table field text formating

2008-12-19 Thread Brian Yennie
JB, FWIW, I believe the Rev text engine is something written specifically for Rev to be cross-platform and does not plug in to platform specific engines such as MLTE. So the upside is that they can pretty much do whatever they want (and have it work cross platform). The downside is that

Re: Table field text formating

2008-12-19 Thread -= JB =-
Brian, I had heard that too but then after hearing they were doing a rewrite to improve text and fields I was wondering if they were going the MLTE route. I think MLTE is based on ATSUI and if they used ATSUI it would allow kerning tracking. -=JB=- On Dec 19, 2008, at 12:44 AM, Brian

Re: Table field text formating

2008-12-18 Thread James Hurley
Message: 16 Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 12:02:24 -0400 From: william humphrey shoreag...@gmail.com Subject: Table field text formating To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Message-ID: 459b22a90812170802p31aef3a3oeb0c1d1955411...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain

Table field text formating

2008-12-17 Thread william humphrey
I keep running into this problem and making work-arounds that are not at all elegant. It would sure be wonderful if you could set the alignment in one column of a table field to right and the next column in the same table field to another alignment say left. Is there a way to do this?

Re: Table field text formating

2008-12-17 Thread Rob Cozens
Jan William, I keep running into this problem and making work-arounds that are not at all elegant. It would sure be wonderful if you could set the alignment in one column of a table field to right and the next column in the same table field to another alignment say left. Is there a way

Re: Table field text formating

2008-12-17 Thread Stephen Barncard
IMHO Courier is the most universally available monospaced font. I like slashed zeroes to contrast with UC O's. Also the open source TruetypeProfont is severe to look at for code, but presents a great image for numbers lists. No testing on Windows - but these are long established

Re: Table field text formating

2008-12-17 Thread william humphrey
Thanks a lot. It is sure a lot easier to do that and display my data in one big field than make lots of little ones which line up next to each other. I see why people keep asking for better table field controls. On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 2:05 PM, Stephen Barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com

Re: Table field text formating

2008-12-17 Thread Andre.Bisseret
Le 17 déc. 08 à 17:02, william humphrey a écrit : I keep running into this problem and making work-arounds that are not at all elegant. It would sure be wonderful if you could set the alignment in one column of a table field to right and the next column in the same table field to another

Re: Table field text formating

2008-12-17 Thread Jan Schenkel
--- william humphrey shoreag...@gmail.com wrote: I keep running into this problem and making work-arounds that are not at all elegant. It would sure be wonderful if you could set the alignment in one column of a table field to right and the next column in the same table field to another

Re: Table field text formating

2008-12-17 Thread william humphrey
What is the name of the best non-proportional font to use for both windoz and Mac? It is mainly for numbers. Wouldn't it be nice if there was a non-proportional font that was proportional for just letters? ___ use-revolution mailing list

Re: Table field text formating

2008-12-17 Thread -= JB =-
On Dec 17, 2008, at 10:05 AM, Stephen Barncard wrote: IMHO Courier is the most universally available monospaced font. stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - What would be really nice is if the Rev Team would supply a character to be used. It seems a space is

Re: Table field text formating

2008-12-17 Thread Richard Gaskin
-= JB =- wrote: What would be really nice is if the Rev Team would supply a character to be used. It seems a space is standard. Why not provide a space character that is 1 point in size. Then it would be simple math to justify text that would work on any machine. You would be able to do your

Re: Table field text formating

2008-12-17 Thread -= JB =-
On Dec 17, 2008, at 3:45 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: -= JB =- wrote: What would be really nice is if the Rev Team would supply a character to be used. It seems a space is standard. Why not provide a space character that is 1 point in size. Then it would be simple math to justify text that

Re: Table field text formating

2008-12-17 Thread Richard Gaskin
-= JB =- wrote: On Dec 17, 2008, at 3:45 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: It would be far more efficient and robust if Rev simply added independent column alignment as has been the #1 request for many years. I agree they should add independent column alignment. But they should also add a 1

Re: Table field text formating

2008-12-17 Thread -= JB =-
On Dec 17, 2008, at 4:13 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: -= JB =- wrote: On Dec 17, 2008, at 3:45 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: It would be far more efficient and robust if Rev simply added independent column alignment as has been the #1 request for many years. I agree they should add independent

Re: Table field text formating

2008-12-17 Thread Richard Gaskin
-= JB =- wrote: On Dec 17, 2008, at 4:13 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: ... If all you need is a one-pixel font, I'm sure there are plenty around. But perhaps we might ask why this is useful, and look one step further to the mechanics of the underlying text rendering in the field object to

Re: Table field text formating

2008-12-17 Thread -= JB =-
On Dec 17, 2008, at 5:05 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: -= JB =- wrote: On Dec 17, 2008, at 4:13 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: .. If all you need is a one-pixel font, I'm sure there are plenty around. But perhaps we might ask why this is useful, and look one step further to the mechanics of

Re: Table field text formating

2008-12-17 Thread Brian Yennie
JB, I think you may be vastly underestimating the task of supporting kerning and tracking by using dummy spaces inserted into the flow of text. Among other things, this would render your text impossible to parse and be quite slow. What's appealing about strange 1 pixel characters

Re: Table field text formating

2008-12-17 Thread -= JB =-
Brian, Whatever way it is done Rev should include it as a standard and then they can advertise it includes the ability for kerning and tracking. They can have a standard key used to enter the character. Maybe something like a control-space. Of course this can probably be done now using

Re: Table field text formating

2008-12-17 Thread Dick Kriesel
Could you replace each space with an image whose width you've set? Could you replace any character with a snapshot of itself whose width you've set? -- Dick On 12/17/08 6:17 PM, -= JB =- sund...@pacifier.com wrote: Brian, Whatever way it is done Rev should include it as a standard and

Re: Table field text formating

2008-12-17 Thread Brian Yennie
I agree it would be a nice feature. I'm not so sure that it's so simple. I would think it would be quite difficult to add pro layout features like this to Rev's text engine with support for all platforms and seamless backward compatibility. Whatever way it is done Rev should include it as

Re: Table field text formating

2008-12-17 Thread -= JB =-
That is why as a serious desktop publisher I haven't taken the time to use the image idea. It might be good for a very rare occasion to convert images but it does not solve the problem unless Rev does it all behind the scene as a standard. And that leaves us where we are until Rev improves

Re: Table field text formating

2008-12-17 Thread J. Landman Gay
-= JB =- wrote: Look at it this way. With the 1 character added Rev could advertise it allows both Kerning and Tracking. To those in the publishing industry that means a lot. I can imagine the outcry that would occur if RR advertised kerning and tracking and instead supplied a method

Re: Table field text formating

2008-12-17 Thread -= JB =-
On Dec 17, 2008, at 7:27 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: -= JB =- wrote: Look at it this way. With the 1 character added Rev could advertise it allows both Kerning and Tracking. To those in the publishing industry that means a lot. I can imagine the outcry that would occur if RR advertised

Re: Table field text formating

2008-12-17 Thread J. Landman Gay
-= JB =- wrote: You are right, they need to do a professional job. That is the whole point of asking them to add it instead of me doing something. I know the above statement by me looks like I am saying they could just add crap and claim it is professional. I really don't mean that and

Re: Table field text formating

2008-12-17 Thread -= JB =-
On Dec 17, 2008, at 8:12 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: I think the number of professional DTPers using Rev is probably pretty small, and the overlap of those who both do DTP and want to program is very narrow. Rev is a programming tool, and needs to address a wide variety of features for

Re: Table field text formating

2008-12-17 Thread John Vokey
On 17-Dec-08, at 9:12 PM, Richard wrote: It may be easier to get the exact feature you need than to ask RunRev to become a type foundry. If all you need is a one-pixel font, I'm sure there are plenty around. But perhaps we might ask why this is useful, and look one step further to the

Re: Table field text formating

2008-12-17 Thread Richard Gaskin
John Vokey wrote: On 17-Dec-08, at 9:12 PM, Richard wrote: If all you need is a one-pixel font, I'm sure there are plenty around. But perhaps we might ask why this is useful, and look one step further to the mechanics of the underlying text rendering in the field object to get exactly what