Re: Transcript and/or ECMA - guess who started it?

2004-02-19 Thread tuviah snyder
> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 18:52:07 + > From: Dave Cragg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Transcript and/or ECMA - guess who started it? > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ;

Re: Transcript and/or ECMA - guess who started it?

2004-02-19 Thread Alex Rice
On Feb 19, 2004, at 4:20 PM, Alex Rice wrote: That is the javascript Document Object Model. Serious Javascripter would be less than enthused if this kind of thing were not available. But overall, I'm not for Javascript. I'll stick with Transcript any day. -- Alex Rice | Mindlube Software | http:/

Re: Transcript and/or ECMA - guess who started it?

2004-02-19 Thread Alex Rice
On Feb 19, 2004, at 4:04 PM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: I just checked. If you install JavaScript OSA then it shows up in the alternateLanguages in REV. So that tells me a do as javascript is in REV. Cool! Something that I haven't seen mentioned in this thread is the Javascript DOM. Being able

Re: Transcript and/or ECMA - guess who started it?

2004-02-19 Thread Thomas McGrath III
I just checked. If you install JavaScript OSA then it shows up in the alternateLanguages in REV. So that tells me a do as javascript is in REV. On Feb 19, 2004, at 2:18 PM, Dar Scott wrote: On Thursday, February 19, 2004, at 11:52 AM, Dave Cragg wrote: For me, executing javascript would be mor

Re: Transcript and/or ECMA - guess who started it?

2004-02-19 Thread Dar Scott
On Thursday, February 19, 2004, at 11:52 AM, Dave Cragg wrote: For me, executing javascript would be more useful than having it work with Rev objects. Same here. (I may be missing something.) Dar ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http

Re: Transcript and/or ECMA - guess who started it?

2004-02-19 Thread Dave Cragg
At 12:27 pm -0500 19/2/04, tuviah snyder wrote: If the "do" languages were to be expanded beyond AppleScript, I think Javascript should be high on the list of priorities. It is supported. See the alternatelanguages function. But this is Mac only, right? (And is there a Javascript option for this?

Re: Transcript and/or ECMA - guess who started it?

2004-02-19 Thread tuviah snyder
> If the "do" languages were to be expanded beyond AppleScript, I think > Javascript should be high on the list of priorities. It is supported. See the alternatelanguages function. It's not about executing JavaScript..it's about getting JavaScript to work with Rev objects, the debugger, and on all

Re: Transcript and/or ECMA - guess who started it?

2004-02-19 Thread Dave Cragg
At 12:05 pm -0700 18/2/04, Dar Scott wrote: On Wednesday, February 18, 2004, at 11:24 AM, jbv wrote: One might need so support javascript in loaded web pages. That person will either need to build javascript with Transcript or use some other method. If it is available among 'do' languages that p

Re: Transcript and/or ECMA - guess who started it?

2004-02-18 Thread Trevor DeVore
On Feb 18, 2004, at 3:56 PM, Jim Lambert wrote: Tha latest version of Director has now added support for Javascript. The main reason given is exactly that - the hope that more programmers will come into the Director fold. It remains to be seen if this will happen. Perhaps RuntimeRev should jus

Re: Transcript and/or ECMA - guess who started it?

2004-02-18 Thread Ops
Ah! my bad and my apologies...I probably didn't read back far enough...it's just a "hot button" with me after having been involved with so many companies that just don't know how to *FOCUS*...and thus never do anything well, let alone excellent. I must've "jumped in" to the middle of this and

Re: Transcript and/or ECMA - guess who started it?

2004-02-18 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 2/18/04 12:48 PM, Ops wrote: True enough Richard, but, I'm sure Rev resources are not unlimited, and if this is done at a long-term cost to the efficacy of the existing product, then I'm sure all would agree that those efforts would be "foot-shooting"...I for one, would like Rev to stay ontr

Re: Transcript and/or ECMA - guess who started it?

2004-02-18 Thread Dar Scott
On Wednesday, February 18, 2004, at 11:24 AM, jbv wrote: I do understand that some folks might build browser control, but well... considering the gorgeous perspectives of building web apps with Rev, I have the feeling that working on a browser ctrl in javascript is a big step backwards somehow...

Re: Transcript and/or ECMA - guess who started it?

2004-02-18 Thread Ops
the more Rev/Transcript is used, the more folks in that category will appreciate and embrace the virtues of current Transcript. If implented as Tuviah proposed it may actually have the opposite, beneficial effect: by allowing the world's most popular scripting language as a switchable option so

Re: Transcript and/or ECMA - guess who started it?

2004-02-18 Thread Richard Gaskin
Ops wrote: > the more Rev/Transcript is used, the more folks in that category > will appreciate and embrace the virtues of current Transcript. If implented as Tuviah proposed it may actually have the opposite, beneficial effect: by allowing the world's most popular scripting language as a switch

Re: Transcript and/or ECMA - guess who started it?

2004-02-18 Thread jbv
This post is slightly OT, but a nice improvement of the Rev engine (rather than the Transcript interpreter itself) would be to break its present monolithic nature and split it into various librairies (a bit like C librairies). This feature would be irrelevant in the IDE, but when building standalon

Re: Transcript and/or ECMA - guess who started it?

2004-02-18 Thread Ops
I'm *really* not following the wisdom of all this...to me, IT'S NOT BROKE (Transcript language-wise)...if this discussion is based in a desire for current Rev programmers to have Transcript understand a syntax that they may be more familiar with, then I think it's insane to accommodate that des

Re: Transcript and/or ECMA - guess who started it?

2004-02-18 Thread jbv
Yes, I remember that feature of HC. But still, I'm asking the question : I can understand the benefit of coding in AppleScript in a MacOS environment, but I'm wondering who might be interested to script a stack in javascript (I've completed a few sophisticated web apps in javascript and that was s

Re: Transcript and/or ECMA - guess who started it?

2004-02-18 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 2/18/04 11:51 AM, jbv wrote: This is probably a dumb question, but what kind of new world would open the possibility to script a stack in javascript (for instance) ? I was thinking of the way HyperCard handled this. There was a popdown button at the top of the script editor that allowed the au

Re: Transcript and/or ECMA - guess who started it?

2004-02-18 Thread Dar Scott
On Wednesday, February 18, 2004, at 10:51 AM, jbv wrote: This is probably a dumb question, but what kind of new world would open the possibility to script a stack in javascript (for instance) ? Here is one. Folks might be making browser controls. Some might be HTML subsets. Some might be speci

Re: Transcript and/or ECMA - guess who started it?

2004-02-18 Thread Dar Scott
On Wednesday, February 18, 2004, at 07:05 AM, tuviah snyder wrote: Each statement needs to start with a verb. I am so pleased nobody has suggested LET. -- Dar ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/u

Re: Transcript and/or ECMA - guess who started it?

2004-02-18 Thread jbv
> > > Each statement needs to start with a verb. Rather than break XTalk it would > > be more practial support JavaScript as an additional language implemented > > using one of many javascript interpreters available. > > This would be awesome, and would allow all sorts of additional > flexibility.

Re: Transcript and/or ECMA - guess who started it?

2004-02-18 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 2/18/04 8:05 AM, tuviah snyder wrote: Of course someone with knowledge of the parser would have to answer this one... Each statement needs to start with a verb. Rather than break XTalk it would be more practial support JavaScript as an additional language implemented using one of many javascrip

RE: Transcript and/or ECMA - guess who started it?

2004-02-18 Thread tuviah snyder
>Of course someone with knowledge of the parser would have to answer this >one... Each statement needs to start with a verb. Rather than break XTalk it would be more practial support JavaScript as an additional language implemented using one of many javascript interpreters available. AFAIK JavaScr

Re: Transcript and/or ECMA - guess who started it?

2004-02-18 Thread Sjoerd Op 't Land
Ken Ray wrote/ schreef: > Actually, Sjoerd, it is probably possible for the parser to understand > the context so that a different operator may not be needed at all. Of course this is possible. I just don't like a symbol to have a context-dependent meaning. When I read my script aloud, I want to

RE: Transcript and/or ECMA - guess who started it?

2004-02-17 Thread Ken Ray
> Put into works fine. And if you want to have a shorter > operator for this, use :=, like Pascal. I mean, because of > using '=' for 'becomes', they had to use '==' (huu, very > ugly) for a comparison. xTalks handle this nicely ('=' for a > comparison), so don't clutter the language up with '

Re: Transcript and/or ECMA - guess who started it?

2004-02-17 Thread Sjoerd Op 't Land
MisterX wrote/ schreef: > local afld=fld "test" Please don't adopt this ugly C-like syntax... Put into works fine. And if you want to have a shorter operator for this, use :=, like Pascal. I mean, because of using '=' for 'becomes', they had to use '==' (huu, very ugly) for a comparison. xTalks h

RE: Transcript and/or ECMA - guess who started it?

2004-02-17 Thread MisterX
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