RE: Clause in the Valentina License

2007-05-06 Thread Lynn Fredricks
> But if what is being said is that once an end user has put > his stuff in, you the developer may not use the kit to > extract that data in a form which he can use in some other > competing database, well, no thanks. We need to get our > priorities straight: its his data. Don't tell him wha

Re: Clause in the Valentina License

2007-05-05 Thread Luis
That's the reason why I went for PostrgreSQL for Mac: http:// www.postgresqlformac.com/ OpenBase Solo (their free version, 5 user methinks) was extremely tempting, but I had already started on PostgreSQL: www.openbase.com Cheers, Luis. On 5 May 2007, at 20:31, Peter Alcibiades wrote: Ye

Re: Clause in the Valentina License

2007-05-05 Thread Ruslan Zasukhin
On 5/5/07 10:31 PM, "Peter Alcibiades" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I was alerted to this by an organization who had keyed in several person-years > work of their own intellectual property into a database with no export > provisions. When they wanted to get it out, the reply was, good luck writin

re: Clause in the Valentina License

2007-05-05 Thread Peter Alcibiades
Years ago at a now forgotten company a whimsical older manager was starting up a first class on databases. What, he asked, is the most important thing to consider when inputting data into an application? We young fellows stumbled around for a while, as you can imagine. Finally he delivered hi

RE: Clause in the Valentina License

2007-05-05 Thread Lynn Fredricks
> What is this saying exactly? > > Is it saying that if I write an application in Rev using > Valentina for Rev, and provide the ability for my user to > export his own data, that he has keyed in himself, into csv > tables, with a view to enabling him to use his own data as he > chooses in a

Re: Clause in the Valentina License

2007-05-05 Thread Ruslan Zasukhin
On 5/5/07 1:20 PM, "Peter Alcibiades" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Peter, The most correct explanation of this will give Lynn Fredricks. I remember that exists a couple of restrictions in EULA, which prevent developer from developing of ROYALTY FREE application which is ala-FileMaker or ala-Acc

Clause in the Valentina License

2007-05-05 Thread Peter Alcibiades
Thanks for the link. I always read license agreements before installing, and came on the following: "EXPRESS LIMITATIONS ON WORKS THAT CONVERT VALENTINA DATABASES. "If your Work includes the ability to extract data from a Valentina Database and then transform, translate or convert the extract

Re: Valentina license

2006-10-02 Thread Luis
Ruslan Zasukhin wrote: Again I want underline, Lynn have develop perfect license for Valentina, to be able satisfy as $20-SHAREWARE developers, so small business and educational market developers. And if your needs not fit our license you always can call to Lynn to make some special agreemen

Re: Valentina license

2006-10-02 Thread Ruslan Zasukhin
On 10/2/06 2:00 AM, "Luis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Luis, I will read complete your answer later, sorry busy now. >> CALL to mySQL company, CALL to Paradigma Software. >> Try negotiate special win-win deal. > > Can't afford long distance calls... I did not mean phone call. Okay use email

Re: Valentina license

2006-10-01 Thread Luis
Oh dear, what have I done... See inline replies. On 1 Oct 2006, at 8:16, Ruslan Zasukhin wrote: On 10/1/06 2:00 AM, "Luis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Luis, That's the thing that always gets me: The 'connections' cost. One of the plus sides of Open Source is there are no connection costs

Re: Valentina license

2006-10-01 Thread Ruslan Zasukhin
On 10/1/06 2:00 AM, "Luis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Luis, > That's the thing that always gets me: The 'connections' cost. > One of the plus sides of Open Source is there are no connection costs > for your database, you decide on the limitations/access rights/ > priviliges (delete where least

Re: Valentina license

2006-09-30 Thread Luis
That's the thing that always gets me: The 'connections' cost. One of the plus sides of Open Source is there are no connection costs for your database, you decide on the limitations/access rights/ priviliges (delete where least confusing). I'm not knocking commercial databases for charging for t

Re: Valentina license

2006-09-30 Thread Ruslan Zasukhin
On 9/30/06 2:35 AM, "Stephen Barncard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Stephen, >> P.S. (sorry for kind of advertise, which I consider as information): > > yes, I need to know this. > > Ruslan, I've gone a long way into my project. I have questions: > > 1. Does Valentina run the main MySQL synt