Re: W(h)ither Rev??? - (was sundry recent rants, with ever-increasing parentheses and unending tree branches)

2007-06-11 Thread Bob Warren
Andre wrote: Bob: we have order and we have progress... runrev is on a nice, orderly position in the 2.8.x series and have a clear roadmap to progress... again, what do you want from open source that can't be achieved by closed source? Andre

W(h)ither Rev??? - (was sundry recent rants, with ever-increasing parentheses and unending tree branches)

2007-06-10 Thread Mike Harland
Having read the latest Mathewson v. Kane mini-rant, I thought it was about time somebody long-in-the-tooth, white-haired and Gandalf-like synthesised a few things. As a persistent, silent reader for many years on this list, I assume I can be allowed one message of (positively) negative

Re: W(h)ither Rev??? - (was sundry recent rants, with ever-increasing parentheses and unending tree branches)

2007-06-10 Thread Ian Wood
On 10 Jun 2007, at 12:35, Mike Harland wrote: Allow people to produce Rev advice sites and repository sites or to form non-commercial user groups I must be missing something somewhere, because there's a pretty substantial number of Rev repositories on the web... ;-) Ian

W(h)ither Rev??? - (was sundry recent rants, with ever-increasing parentheses and unending tree branches)

2007-06-10 Thread Richmond Mathewson
Mike Harland wrote: Rev continues to contemplate its own navel with all its talk of 'pros' on this list, while consistently looking down its nose at the so-called hobbyist, newby or daft-headed academic extremely well-put. And, bye-the-bye, your posting title expresses the situation to a

Re: W(h)ither Rev??? - (was sundry recent rants, with ever-increasing parentheses and unending tree branches)

2007-06-10 Thread Andre Garzia
Mike et al. I am not an investor. I produce open source apps and closed source apps in Rev. I produce them in Macs and deliver in windows and linux with success. And yes, I build web applications in Rev. I am not biased. Some stuff could be made simpler or easier, like the FFI and being able to

Re: W(h)ither Rev??? - (was sundry recent rants, with ever-increasing parentheses and unending tree branches)

2007-06-10 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
Andre, You have just spoken for the silent majority! Joe Wilkins On Jun 10, 2007, at 9:34 AM, Andre Garzia wrote: Mike et al. snip I don't understand what are you guys in need of. andre ___ ___

Re: W(h)ither Rev??? - (was sundry recent rants, with ever-increasing parentheses and unending tree branches)

2007-06-10 Thread Judy Perry
As a hobbyist/daft-headed academic, I don't understand this remark. When Metacard was $1,000 a license and I complained to Rev that hobbyist/academics couldn't afford/wouldn't pay $1,000 a license, they came out with a series of reasonably-priced feature-reduced versions to meet the

W(h)ither Rev??? - (was sundry recent rants, with ever-increasing parentheses and unending tree branches)

2007-06-10 Thread Bob Warren
Mike Harland wrote: Having read the latest Mathewson v. Kane mini-rant, I thought it was about time somebody long-in-the-tooth, white-haired and Gandalf-like synthesised a few things. As a persistent, silent reader for many years on this list, I assume I can be allowed one message of

W(h)ither Rev??? - (was sundry recent rants, with ever-increasing parentheses and unending tree branches)

2007-06-10 Thread Bob Warren
Andre wrote: I don't understand what are you guys in need of. - Andre: Brazil's lemma is Order and Progress I believe? Of course, I am just speaking for myself. Regards, Bob ___ use-revolution mailing list

Re: W(h)ither Rev??? - (was sundry recent rants, with ever-increasing parentheses and unending tree branches)

2007-06-10 Thread Andre Garzia
Bob: we have order and we have progress... runrev is on a nice, orderly position in the 2.8.x series and have a clear roadmap to progress... again, what do you want from open source that can't be achieved by closed source? Andre On 6/10/07, Bob Warren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andre wrote: I

Re: W(h)ither Rev??? - (was sundry recent rants, with ever-increasing parentheses and unending tree branches)

2007-06-10 Thread Richard Gaskin
Andre Garzia wrote perhaps the most cogent statement of all threads on open source and quality concerns in the history of this list: If you guys believe that open source would squash bugs, then why don't you gather a group and build regression tests. A lot of folks here share a good many